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Dorian Jul 19, 2001 9:27 am

Flood control timing increase
 
First, let me say I was going to post this in Suggestions...but after I realized what it made me do I decided to post here.

Flood control is now 90 seconds. I was hoping it was actually going to go to 30 seconds.

After writing my second post of the day...I hit submit and got the flood control warning. I waiting then tried again...then 4 more times. Then I just closed my browser and went to make some tea. That post (an answer to a newcomer) was never posted.

IMO, 90 seconds, geez, even 60 seconds is too long for people that have been brought up with a computer and typing classes.

Dorian


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[This message has been edited by Dorian (edited 07-19-2001).]

doc Jul 19, 2001 10:02 am

Yes, I wholeheartedly agree, Dorian! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

As I'd noted previously,

"Actually, I'd actually suggest going down to 30 secs! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif The reason I note this is that when things are really bad, (really, REALLY slow, and that is fortunately very rare), is when we appear to most need it, it but when it will not do the job very well since the lock up yields no feedback and one will very likely press return again - and again. We have seen this in the past when 5-10 posts were made over a 30 - 50 min period. So even 5-10 mins would presumably result in little additional gain - yet it will possibly help to discourage too much posting by any individual, in too short a time!

The real trick, IMHO, is simply to press the return key just once! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum72/HTML/000327.html

wharvey Jul 19, 2001 2:12 pm

Another option... but perhaps not an option with this BBS software... is to program the system to not allow two posts from the same person back-to-back.

It does seem to get worse when the system is slower... and sure we are all wondering whether or original post took... so we press enter again!!!! and again!!! and......

William

Dorian Jul 19, 2001 3:02 pm

I don't see what the big deal is with double posts...

Would rather have better timing...

Dorian

doc Jul 19, 2001 3:49 pm

Dorian, please remember, this is Flyertalk!

Everything is a BIG deal! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif

Have a great night! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

james Jul 19, 2001 4:59 pm

90 s is too long! Dorian is spot on.

Doc - lighten up :P http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

doc Jul 19, 2001 5:29 pm

Why it is, it really is, the most venerable, the most honorable, "james!"

Incredible! :eek: Welcome! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

Why I've not witnessed a post of yours since... well, I'm not actually certain, but the last sighting may well have been prior to the release of "The Gladiator!" Yet it may well have been the home video version for what little I know! Actually, what do I know? Let me answer that please. Absolutely,... well nearly nothing! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif But, FWIW, it was definitely after "The Patriot!"

In any case, for those wondering, yes, I surely did have too much wine with dinner and also, more importantly, it is SUCH a great pleasure to see you post james! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

Uh... uh oh! But, uh yes, perhaps I am now a bit too light! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif

Nah! What a tremendous surprise to see your name grace the boards!!! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif It's my most sincere hope that it will not be such a rare occasion, but rather that you might "stick around" and share your input with us all!

How do you like the new "smilies", btw? Rumour is that no one really likes 'em, but I just refuse to give up! What d' ya' think?

In any case, have a great evening! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

-Mark

james Jul 19, 2001 5:49 pm

Thank you for your kind words Doc. It is in large part due to your kind enquiries that I am visiting, although I think you will find that my last posts were late April/early May.

No, I don't like the new smilies. In fact, your post and mine seem to indicate that a lot of smilies no longer exist.

I may stay around a little to share my input, but for now, it's a pleasure to be here.

[This message has been edited by james (edited 07-20-2001).]

doc Jul 20, 2001 8:34 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by james:
Thank you for your kind words Doc. It is in large part due to your kind enquiries that I am visiting...

...No, I don't like the new smilies. In fact, your post and mine seem to indicate that a lot of smilies no longer exist....
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As noted by the overexuberance shown above, It's a pleasure seeing you! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

Regarding the current "smilie situation" however, we are still seaching for someone who may truly like 'em! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum95/HTML/001241.html

Od course, it's really a VERY small problem in the great scheme of things!

Have a great weekend! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

rcs85551 Jul 21, 2001 1:36 am

I agree that the timing has to change. Something between 30s - 45s would be appropriate as this it the time a regular user needs to open another thread and post a quick reply there.

Dorian Jul 23, 2001 5:44 pm

This is getting irritating.

I only have so much time to look at nFT in a given day...now a portion of it is sitting & waiting for flood control. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/thumbsdown.gif

Dorian

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essxjay Jul 23, 2001 6:33 pm

UBB's default is 60 seconds, which I think is about right ... however, I think 90 seconds is optimal -- keyboarding classes notwithstanding.

Dorian Jul 23, 2001 6:45 pm

I used to be able to type 60wpm. Now...oh...maybe 30 without too many errors.

I don't like to give long winded answers...short and to the point.

60 seconds is about 10-15 seconds too long for me. 90 is enuf that I get 'distracted' with work...and dump FT.

My point is basically that I am posting less (ya, I know) and reading less with the 90 seconds. I don't like sitting staring at my screen for now reason except waiting. Prime reason I upgrade my computer every 12-16 months.

Dorian


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[This message has been edited by Dorian (edited 07-23-2001).]

doc Jul 24, 2001 6:20 am

Why allow over 30 seconds?

IMHO, 90 sec is easily at least 3x more time than is necessary - or perhaps even more! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

One needs to rememeber to just click "SUBMIT REPLY" only once! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

essxjay Jul 24, 2001 9:33 am

But the upside to the longer time-between-posts is we no longer have the nagging dupe problem.

60 seconds between posts is probably just as good.

Dorian Jul 24, 2001 9:52 am

My point was that it wasn't a nagging problem for me.

I would way rather scroll past a dupe or two than have to wait regularly to post.

Dorian

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doc Jul 25, 2001 11:29 am

Seems someone is listening and also responding, Dorian! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

Down from 90 sec to only 60 sec now!

Thanks for the seeming compromise folks! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

avgas Jul 25, 2001 9:34 pm

You guys. Messing with this hot new technology. Now they tweaked that, and you got your 60 seconds default, FT has virually ground to a halt from the hi-tech shock! Can't npow access AA or UA boards - ironically the only 2 airline boards with our 'must have' moderators. Very Freudian. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

Also this link is not working either all day for me:

Click Here To View Today's Active Topics (all public forums)

doc Oct 20, 2001 9:16 am

30 secs anyone? http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

Randy Petersen Oct 21, 2001 6:17 am

Come on guys.....you see from a few posts that we compromised on the 60 seconds. Please don't want to re-negotiate. I thought we had a deal..... :-)

doc Oct 21, 2001 6:27 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Randy Petersen:

Come on guys.....you see from a few posts that we compromised on the 60 seconds. Please don't want to re-negotiate. I thought we had a deal..... :-)</font>
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Okeedokee! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

Dorian Dec 20, 2001 6:55 pm

Gettin' nailed by the 60 second beast again. Maybe I have sped up?

Dorian

svpii Dec 20, 2001 7:09 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by james:
Thank you for your kind words Doc. It is in large part due to your kind enquiries that I am visiting, although I think you will find that my last posts were late April/early May.</font>
James!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I was just asking about you on this thread! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum.../001547-6.html

We're coming to London - won't you meet us?? I haven't talked to you in ages! I do remember lots of nights in Chat before it became so popular http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif.. and it was very, very late for you..

Do read the thread... and it's good to see you again. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif

Dorian Dec 20, 2001 7:14 pm

Umm...this thread is about flood control... http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

D

FewMiles Dec 20, 2001 9:58 pm

Hey! That's my job, Dorian!

svpii: Off-topic posts will be met with a big http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/mad.gif and you will be forced to write lines ("I will not post off topic again") and sit in a corner and ponder the existentialism of frequent flyer points. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/tongue.gif

MOOderator FewMiles..

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BooBooKitty Dec 20, 2001 10:30 pm

I make a motion that flood control be increased to 30 days for Doc.

Is he freakin annoying or what?

FewMiles Dec 20, 2001 11:47 pm

BooBooKitty: Was that really necessary?

I ask you, please, to reconsider your post and tone it down. Self-restraint does us all good.

Sincerely,
"Volunteer Moderator" FewMiles..

svpii Dec 21, 2001 4:39 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by FewMiles:

svpii: Off-topic posts will be met with a big http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/mad.gif and you will be forced to ... ponder the existentialism of frequent flyer points. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/tongue.gif

MOOderator FewMiles..

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Dear Moderator FewMiles:

I think in this case that existential phenomonology as postured by the likes of Husserl, Heidegger, and Merleau-Ponty would be a better discipline from which to contemplate the meanings and essences of frequent flyer mile pursuit in the context of directed consciousness and the bracket-of-existence in it's effect on intentionality - don't you think?

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif

Scientific thinking, a thinking which looks on from above, and thinks of the object-in-general, must return to the 'there is' which underlies it; to the site, the soil of the sensible and opened world such as it is in our life and for our body-- not that possible body which we may legitimately think of as an information machine but that actual body I call mine, this sentinel standing quietly at the command of my words and my acts.

Maurice Merleau-Ponty, "Eye and Mind"


doc Dec 21, 2001 7:43 am

Happy Holidays to the "flooded" & "non-flooded alike! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

svpii Dec 21, 2001 12:13 pm

So - Mr. Volunteer Moderator FewMiles - Can I shut down a thread or what??? http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

Gaucho100K Dec 21, 2001 12:23 pm

Dorian is right. 30 seconds is the way to go.

MRKEY Dec 22, 2001 1:54 am

Happy Holidays.. its just not that critical 30 or 60 http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

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FewMiles Dec 22, 2001 11:02 am

I think flood control should stay at 60 seconds or in fact should be increased slightly. Web browsers usually have their "server is dead" timeout at 60 seconds. Sometimes, when we click "submit reply", our browser seems to get stuck and then times out saying the "server is not responding" when in fact our post did go through. We then proceed to click "submit reply" thinking that it didn't work, resulting in a double post.

One other point, shouldn't flood control apply only to consecutive posts in the same thread? After all, is the goal of flood control not to prevent accidental duplicate posts?

A side effect is that flood control means that people have to put at least 60 seconds of effort and thought into each post... or does it? http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/tongue.gif

FewMiles..

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