Pop-ups Again????
 

I'm getting pop-ups for some outfit called "lowest bids".

I thought there weren't going to be pop-ups on FlyerTalk any more?

The problem with "pop-ups" is that they don't work well with the board, at least for my configuration. Whenever I get a popup it "wipes out" my light bulbs and red folders.

Same here. Very annoying.

Chuck

Even more problematic is that I can't kill the pop up unless I completely exit the site all together http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/frown.gif

Even worse for me.

I get an error window, saying "an error has occurred on the script on this page. Do you want to continue running scripts?"

And then, the blankety-blank thing comes up every time I click on a new topic!

The pop-up window I can deal with, just click it off...but EVERY TIME?? And then to have to answer the above error msg with a yes or no, every time?

And BTW, it does not matter which I choose, it still goes on and on. I exited my web browser and restarted. Same result.

FT, do something about this,please.

I generally navigate multiple things at once (FlyerTalk, FT Chat, a word doc, etc.). Since the pop-ups started appearing today, everytime a new FT screen loads (clicking a hyperlink to a thread, a board, etc.) the FT window immediately pops on top. This is annoying.

It is annoying, but don't close it. Minimize it on your Task Bar it doesn't open again when changing threads or topics.

Ha! You're right - if you ignore it, it doesn't come back again and again.

However, something is slowing the loading of the board. Could it be the pop-up even though minimized?



[This message has been edited by Counsellor (edited 03-22-2001).]

My pop-up is an "Under Construction" one. What a pain http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/rolleyes.gif

This is getting very annoying!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What is happening?? The clicking sound it makes is completely driving me nuts! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/mad.gif And please, what has LowestBids.com got to do with FlyerTalk? Someone's got to moderate the ads they suddenly have in here... look who's talking about posting on the wrong thread... http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/mad.gif http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/mad.gif http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/mad.gif

I tried the above, and while it did keep the whatever-the-heck it was priceline-type bid window from coming in, I STILL get the same %%%$$$%%% error window!

3 time now, while just trying to post a reply, same error message...

Gist of it is "Access is denied"

Then "Do you want to continue running scripts on this page?"

ARGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OK, for whomever is writing the program that do this, lissen up, you CRETINS!!!....

(1) Stop it
(2) This is unacceptable code. If your manager doesn't have the guts to fire you, I am available under subcontract to my company. Hire me, and I will not only fire him/her, I will make it completely clear why this idiot is terminated. And, don't worry, I will not lose one minute of sleep afterwards.
(3) FlyerTalk. This is still happening. I will NOT put up with it. Stop this however you have to, or I am gone. Period. I don't have time for clicking on multiple, nonsensical error messages.
(4) Just in case they are not nonsensical, please explain, IN A PUBLIC POST, just what, exactly, am I, PERSONALLY (because this was a personal message having to do with my FT session) trying to access? It ain't me, babe. And I deeply resent the indirect implication that I am trying to access something that you feel the need to deny...subsection follows...
(a) I want to know just WHAT you claim I am trying to access.
(b) I want to know just WHY you feel the need to deny me this access
(c) I want to see some PROOF that I am PERSONALLY trying to access something that is forbidden
(d) I want either the name and phone number of you stupid-butt programmer, or I want him/her to call me and explain, not their code, but the rationalle of that code.

Otherwise, goodbye, FT. I do not have time for this.

I came here to post myself about this RIDICULOUS pop up thing, and I'm glad it's already been brought up. This is TRULY STUPID! i'm sure it will be gone within a day or two..but I do have to questions who's stupid idea this was in the first place, or whether this was some hacker, because I CAN'T believe that the House of Miles would have agreed to such CRAP.

DON'T MONOPOLIZE MY COMPUTER!!!!!

Extremely slow loading tonight, with no lightbulbs, chatbox cannot load the Javascript, forums only half-appear, then lock up. What is going on with FT tonight?

bj-21.


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'Tis better to have played and won, then never to have played at all.

Regarding the new pop-ups, I'm using IE 4.0, and the pop-up spawns a new window each time I navigate to a new page on the FlyerTalk bulletin board, regardless of what I answer to the script error dialog box, and regardless of whether I ignore the new window, minimize it, or close it.

An occasional pop-up is not so bad, but since most of us probably view dozens of messages each time we visit FlyerTalk, having to deal with dozens of pop-ups and dozens of script error dialogs each day makes the board almost unusable.

Perhaps these problems don't occur with other browsers, but I don't think that IE 4.0 is so out of date that a good webmaster wouldn't make sure that their website worked well with it.

Randy, please make sure that if you feel FlyerTalk needs pop-ups or banner ads to survive, that they are implemented in such a way that the site is still usable for most of us. Thanks.

aflyer:

I'm really glad you posted this, because in all truth, I had not thought of that possibility.

Perhaps, FlyerTalk had nothing to do with it,

In any case, for what it's worth:
* I wrote Randy Peterson reiterating what I posted here, and asked for a reply from about it.
* As for viruses, it has been a month or two, to my discredit, since I have uploaded the latest and greatest McAfee anti-virus updates, so I could be at fualt here.

But dang it, this just doesn't have the feel of a virus. It has the feel of a really rotten programming job put here by our hosts.

I hope I'm wrong.

aflyer:

I'm really glad you posted this, because in all truth, I had not thought of that possibility.

Perhaps, FlyerTalk had nothing to do with it,

In any case, for what it's worth:
* I wrote Randy Peterson reiterating what I posted here, and asked for a reply from about it.
* As for viruses, it has been a month or two, to my discredit, since I have uploaded the latest and greatest McAfee anti-virus updates, so I could be at fualt here.

But dang it, this just doesn't have the feel of a virus. It has the feel of a really rotten programming job put here by our hosts.

I hope I'm wrong.

I cannot believe this. I absolutely cannot believe this.

Now, I get 2-4 of those stupid windows (Modal windows, at that!) just trying to compose a message. And furthermore, they hung my browser completely up on the posting phase of my last reply. Hit button send and send and send..nothin. Browser is dead. I come back and see dupe posts even though nothing happened after I tried to post.

Now I see that 2 of my attempts did post, sorry for the dupes.

This has just pegged my fun meter completely.

This pop-up thing was here last night, and it's ba-a-a-ck! And it won't go away.

Sorry, ignoring it is NOT acceptable. PLEASE get rid of it!!

I don't think it's you, "babe", I think it's sloppy javascript coding (maybe plus a firewall effect).

Too bad we can't sit at the Hofbräuhaus in München and sort the whole thing out while a dirndel-clad Wirtin brings us ein paar Maßkrüge.

Maybe next time. I'm still trying to convince my boss that I could telecommute from Munich.

<-sigh->

I, too, am annoyed by these pop-ups.

HOWEVER ...

They started appearing around 5 PM MST 3/22. They are still there around 6 AM MST 3/23. That means that they have been around 13 hours - during time when there may be no one in the office at FT.

Those who have been keeping up with stuff will know that Randy was in Washington DC for meetings Thursday/Friday and then in Atlanta on Friday. Don't know what his travel itinerary is, but I bet he hasn't had time to monitor the Board.

Most people are used to 24/7 on paid sites sponsored by big corporations. Unless I miss my guess, this is not a big corporation, and I, at least, have not paid to have the privilege of using this site.

As I said, I am very irritated by the pop-up boxes. But, I will wait for it to get resolved.

Guys, guys, looking at history, I will not go to yelling at Randy, but it's ok to alert him of the problem.

We have gotten pop-up ads in the past (although none caused so many problems as this)...remember Pepto-Bismal ads? It was normally done by someone at WebFlyer or an outside agency and done beyond the knowledge of Randy. As soon as he heard of all the dislike of pop-ups, he immediately contacted the concerned parties, stopped the pop-ups, and said it wouldn't happen again. I'm sure this was done without his direct approval, and it will be stopped once he checks his e-mail this morning or checks this part of FlyerTalk.

I don't want to jinx it, but so far, have been on FlyerTalk for 10 minutes at 9:45a.m. eastern time (7:45 MT), and I haven't got any pop-ups. Perhaps it has been fixed. Perhaps I am lucky. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

hnechets
calm the hell down.
in case you forgot, you haven't paid for access to this site. flyertalk is not run by a charity or non profit org. what part of capitalism dont u understand.
i'd hate to be a business that has to deal with customers like you. think about it this way...if u saw a "free food" sign on pizza hut, then you go in there for some free pizza , and u notice they have a little "donation box" on the side of the entrance, are ya gonna yell and scream and bring the whole place down.

FWIW, there are shareware apps that allow you to get rid of popup windows altogether. I know there's a reason for having ads in a free site, but if I find the way those ads are being delivered annoying, or worse, causes my computer to crash, I look for ways to bypass them.

To that end, check out AdsOff -for which I'm merely a user and don't gain anything from it. Available at: http://download.cnet.com/downloads/0...00-912651.html

RZ

[This message has been edited by Arrzee (edited 03-23-2001).]

If having pop-up ads is due to an economic decision of FT, I would respectfully request instead that Randy first use banner ads and send an email to FT'ers requesting us, in order to help subsidize the cost of the board, to do a couple of click-throughs per session. I think that those many/most members would respond positively, given our regard for this Board and for Randy and the realization that this board is probably not a profit-center for FT.... I also think that the way that the current popup's have been implmented (as detailed in all the upstream posts) will not help the FT economics. I will not click on anything in the popup window since it has been coded to behave so badly.

I checked Flyertalk 3/22 and now 3/23 and have not seen a pop-up, not that I want to! So maybe it is a personal computer problem or it has stopped. the speed seems to be just fine on my computer. Good luck to everyone getting rid of pop-ups.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forumcgi/ub...51994&Session=

It looks like FT is getting ready to initiate something new... A beta board. FT is scheduled to be down from 11pm tonite (Fri Mar. 23) until 7am tomorrow morning according to the above link).

Maybe this disfunctional pop-up had something to do with that. (It just didn't act like a properly performing pop-up). It appears that FT fixed it when they got in this morning. Thanks, y'all....

I spoke too soon...it began again about 5 minutes ago. Pops up everytime I click on a link. It is still disfunctional though as it cannot find the server.

Darnit... it started again! No! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/mad.gif
I'm outta here!
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"Work like you don't need the money, and dance like you do when nobody's watching."

[This message has been edited by jimmyjames (edited 03-23-2001).]

I'm getting pop-ups as well, sometimes for lowestbids.com (for which there is also a banner at the end of the forum page) and sometimes saying the page can't be displayed. If I leave the pop-up open, I don't get sequential ones - but if I close it, as soon as I click another message, back it comes.

I agree that the pop-ups are extremely annoying but also sympathize with the need for the host to earn some $$. Any ideas on another way to accomplish that?

I just checked in again and no pop-ups, so I consider myself fortunate. This must be isolated and possibly not FT's fault.

This is a sure fire way to tell me not to come to this board http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/frown.gif

Every time I have to endure "lowest bids" pop-up, my puter freezes because it takes so **** long to load.

Randy, if this is an invited guest, it has out stayed it's welcome http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/frown.gif Use banners instead.

If this is not originated by Flyer Talk or Web Flyer, please get it fixed.

Whether or not it is invited or uninvited, someone is really ruining this site

knocking on the wood veneer, i have still yet to see a pop-up on both my desktop and portable, so far...

sorry to hear this happened to y'all, hopefully the problem would be solved in no time

belle

Our ad company mistakenly booked "pop-unders", which are popups that are supposed to load in the background, and are considered less obtrusive than the traditional ones.

We've had calls with them in the past alerting them to the fact that we will permit NO popups on FlyerTalk, unless they are user-initiated (ie. the visitor actually clicks on the ad banner to generate the popup).

Somewhere down the line this wasn't conveyed to the rep that booked the campaign, and they assumed that the popunders would be acceptable.

I've been working with our account representative for the last two days to determine the cause of the popups and to request their removal (which, to their credit, they did immediately upon my notification).

I've attached the content of an email from them explaning the mistake:

(quoted)
Hi Dan, I sincerely apologize for the misunderstanding. The information regarding pop-ups not serving to FlyerTalk had been conveyed to me during the transition. However, because Obtrusive Interstitials had been blocked in your site registry tools, but Non-Obtrusive Interstitials remained as accepted, I had wrongly assumed that you were allowing pop-unders, since as the category conveys, they are not as obtrusive. However, I should have followed up with you just to make sure, and apologize for not doing so. I completely understand that "no pop-ups" means no pop-ups, no pop-unders, no superstitials, nothing that has any non-user initiated creative that appears outside of the 468x60 window. As I mentioned on Friday, I have already blocked your site from the pop-unders and have removed all of the currently serving pop-under campaigns from your site (if I have missed any, please let me know and I will have them removed immediately). Also, to be completely sure that nothing even resembling a pop-up serves to your site, I am going to get in touch with all of the MC's and make sure that they do not target anything that falls into this category to your site, regardless of the blocking restrictions currently in place. I apologize again for the misunderstanding. If you would still like to have a conference call, please let me know. However, I can assure you that there is total understanding regarding your policy towards pop-ups. If you have any questions, please let me know.
(end quote)

I haven't had any more reports of popups, but if anyone notices any, please contact [email protected].

Thanks again Dan! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

Thanks