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Randy: I am glad to see your action outlined at: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum75/HTML/000017.html
Although, IMO, these characters were created entirely for satirical purposes and are patently false. However, what about the handles that Ozstamps have created for the purpose to deceive??

Good move Randy! Thanks! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

Randy,

BRAVO!!!!

Thanks for helping the community!!

William

I will make additional moves on behalf of the community. Unfortunately I am extremely limited with available time at this moment - technical launch of the 12 Days of Christmas on WebFlyer (Wednesday), closing on the January issue of InsideFlyer (today and I'm down two Editors including the Managing Editor) and a Board meeting in Phoenix for SkyMall (tomorrow). It will take me a few days and perhaps a few weeks, but I will give all threads on this board careful consideration as to their merits of the spirit and intent of this board.

And I hope to have an announcement regarding moderators in the next week or so.

"...entirely for satirical purposes..." ?????? Please! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/eek.gif

I guess it depends on ones definition of "satire!" As was noted previously:

"As the likely most frequently flamed individual on FT ever, I certainly agree with motnot- except perhaps for the humor issue, since it is manifestly in the eye of the beholder. Some may actually well find secondary and tertiary "handles" useful for "humor," yet it is a fact that many a true word is spoken in jest and that the "humor" at the expense of others should ideally have no true place in any real caring "community!"

Are these handles and their posts examples of "humor?"

cod
quack
Dr Pfp
Doctor PfP
Reverend PfP
Miss PfP
Karl Stevens
And on, and on, and on...

I think not!" http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/frown.gif
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum1/HTML/003825.html


"I will give all threads on this board careful consideration as to their merits of the spirit and intent of this board."

Again, thanks for trying to best "protect" the interests of ALL involved Randy! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

And Happy Holidays too! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

[This message has been edited by doc (edited 12-15-2000).]

Doc: You certainly like to quote yourself, don't you?

Whether or not one considers a satire humorous - well, that is up to that person. You do not think it's funny, other people do. Final arbiter, I think we would have to agree, can only be Randy Petersen.

Furthermore, those characters are patently false. Janjet, however, was not until Ozstamps was caught.

My scientific mind tells me that it makes sense, the more one posts, the better the chance of being flamed.

Every post by every person has a chance of offending someone, directly or by accident or misinterpretation. Obviously, someone who posts thousands of times has a much greater risk of a flame than someone with a low post total.

We should look only at the mathematically adjusted flame per post ratio. This can be a nice research project for a graduate student. The finalists could then be notified that they should feel justifiably persecuted.

By the way, I thought "NewZealandCoins" was a pretty funny name.

Yeah, I thought NewZealandCoins was funny too... especially since it was me! I disagree with Randy. I never posted any harrassing comments. I only had 7 posts under my one and only other "name". I only posted for Ozstamps to leave. Why do it under a assumed name? Because I post my real email and Oz kept bombarding me with email. Even after I asked him to stop! That is real harrassment. It's sad to see none of Oz's fake names were "purged". Why aren't these purges conducted in a fair manner? I NEVER recieved an email from flyertalk about the handle. Mine was clearly a fictious non threatening name. No vulgarity. Randyare you going to be fair and get rid of my nemisis? TriColor Pasta? Or is this only for Ozstamps benefit? Maybe he is correct with the Animal Farm analogy... "all animals are equal, some are just more equal than others..." Flyertalkers know Doc and I don't see eye to eye,even though, I ask, ARE YOU GOING TO GIVE HIM THE SAME GIFT? He's right, COD is CLEARLY offensive. What about all those PfP's ??? Shouldn't ALL Flyertalkers benefit? Or is this just for Oz? Haven't we had enough equal protection problems on TV lately?
And now for the ironic department... Oz accused me of being many people...but never my one and only alais... Columbo, he ain't! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

Randy, I have to agree with cigarman. I saw no threats or harrasment within the NZC posts.

I have however seen threats and harrasment coming from the Janejet and Pfp handles.

Why are these two handles the only ones to be "Purged"?

Janejet flamed two of FT's most respected members. Yet, Janejet still lives. IMO, this is a slap in the face to Premex and Catman. Are you telling us that handles that berated Ozstamps are more unreasonable than the Janejet or Pfp handles?

If I didn't know any better, I would think that between this action and your acceptance of Ozzies "Apology", you were telling us that you would rather have 1 Ozstamps as a member than 100's of members who have credibility!

Randy--I find myself in agreement with the comments of cigarman and camera guy. Deleting these handles is a form of censorship. It may be censorship that many agree with, but it is censorship nonetheless. SO, once you have agreed to take on the duties of censor, you will, of necessity, now be deluged with a multitude of demands to be fair and censor XYZ because you censored (deleted) ABC for similar (if not more insignificant) infractions. It is a can of worms or Pandora's box of problems. I am glad it is you dealing with it, and not me.

Voltaire (allegedly) said it best:

Though I detest what you say, I shall defend to the death your right to say it.

Censorship is a slippery slope, and is only palatable so long as one has confidence in the censor. (Fortunately, since you are the ultimate authority here, your role as censor is, as they say of the Supreme Court "not final because you are right, but right because you are final.")

Djlawman

I must admit that I was laughing all day about the name "NewZealandCoins" in fact I'm still laughing right now. Sorry, I can't help it. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

[This message has been edited by the scribbler (edited 12-15-2000).]

Hi Randy,

I have to agree that NewZealandCoins, an obvious alias that was never deceptive, is being unduly singled out. Like opus17, I also found it amusing.

Although there is an outcry against ozstamps at this moment, you should know that the ozstamps that we have today is not that much worse in actions than the ozstamps that ran up 4000+ posts in a matter of months. The only difference now is that his cowardice and hyprocrisy has been unveiled thanks to Rudi and onefreeman.

Since he thinks you support him, he is back to his old ways: just today, he accused me of being wonderland because I edited an inappropriate post along the lines of what wonderland did. Yes, I edited (and deleted) my post. Yes, I felt it was inappropriate. And, yes, I agree with wonderland that ozstamps has no credibility and should leave FlyerTalk.

I realized that you are busy. It's good to be busy, even during the holidays. But please take the time at your earliest convenience to look at the facts and cancel or freeze Ozstamps' account until he admits that he is janejet and all these other aliases.

And even though you have begun IP logging, I suspect that ozstamps is still posting under other names. He has no respect for the other contributors on the United Airlines (as well as other) board(s), he has no respect for you (unless he's since edited his outburst against you from last month), and he has no respect for this community.

Thank you for reading this,

John (fallinasleep)

Randy: Without taking issue with the perfectly valid observations by cigarman and doc, I can't help but notice that, once again, no good deed goes unpunished. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif

Cigarman:

I have heard a rumor that TriColorPasta has already retired, and will haunt you only in its corporeal version on Continental.

Kitty "Liz Smith" Hawk

Randy's in a tough place, as one of his most prominent posters, who brings publicity if not glory to this place, is Antipodean Philatelist. Publicity is the only way he's got a chance of making dough off this place. The only way to get any kind of result is to ignore the guy (not Randy, but yeah, Randy too if that floats your boat). In the words of some great statesperson or another, Just Say No.