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AAJetMan Feb 1, 2009 7:57 am

AONE4 Question: Is this Routing Allowed?
 
Please advise...
On the back-end portion of this itinerary, can I connect via NRT (as noted below) if the connection time is less than 24 hours?

ICN-DEL-HKG-LAX-JFK-DFW-LAX-LHR-DBX-LHR-HEL-LHR-CPT-NRT-ICN

I get a warning on the One World Itineary Planner site, but I read something about a 24-hour stopover allowance.

Note that I am already using some stops in Asia at the front end, namely DEL and HKG.

christep Feb 1, 2009 8:04 am

How do you think you're doing CPT-NRT? I don't see any non-stop flights. You can't re-enter Europe, so I guess:
ICN-DEL-HKG-LAX-JFK-DFW-LAX-LHR-DXB-LHR-HEL-LHR-CPT-JNB-xHKG-xNRT-ICN
which I guess might cause the system to throw a wobbly.
ICN-DEL-HKG-LAX-JFK-DFW-LAX-LHR-DXB-LHR-HEL-LHR-CPT-JNB-xHKG-ICN
would be OK assuming the second HKG is for less than 24 hours.

Gardyloo Feb 1, 2009 8:11 am

ICN-DEL?

christep Feb 1, 2009 8:34 am

Oh yes, that too. ICN-HKG/NRT-DEL

and then you're over the 4 segments in Asia.

AAJetMan Feb 1, 2009 11:17 am

Thank you for the quick response. This is my first shot at a RTW, and I appreciate your support.

I've cleaned up my itinerary a bit. How does the following look? (I am assuming that the "x" indicates a connection of less than 24 hours.)

ICN-xNRT-DEL-HKG-LAX-JFK-DFW-ORD-LAX-LHR-DXB-LHR-HEL-LHR-JNB-xHKG-ICN.

I've replaced CPT with JNB.
I would buy a separate ticket JNB-CPT (perhaps South African Airways) since I really want to see CPT, but do not want to forego the "A" service offered on CX apparently only certain days of the week JNB-HKG, but not at all CPT-HKG non-stop.

Dr. HFH Feb 1, 2009 11:37 am

CX JNB-HKG only has F on Wednesdays, and it's only a 343, so no Suites. Definitely an inferior hard product.

AAJetMan Feb 1, 2009 12:48 pm


Originally Posted by Dr. HFH (Post 11181285)
CX JNB-HKG only has F on Wednesdays, and it's only a 343, so no Suites. Definitely an inferior hard product.

:-(
I could fly Wed if I had to.
Is the 343 at least a lie flat in First?
Does CX offer any suites exAfrica nonstop to Hong Kong or Tokyo?

cs19 Feb 1, 2009 1:54 pm


Originally Posted by AAJetMan (Post 11181619)
:-(
I could fly Wed if I had to.
Is the 343 at least a lie flat in First?
Does CX offer any suites exAfrica nonstop to Hong Kong or Tokyo?

CX has proven unreliable on their JNB//HKG service schedule. A few months ago they were showing a 744 with F 4x week for the summer, then it changed to 3x a week. Then, a month or so ago they dropped that altogether and showed no F product on that route from mid-April through October. Now, they're showing a Wed-only F available on the 343 for that route.

My point is, I wouldn't keep your hopes up. (Northern Hemisphere) Summer F offerings on that route seems to change once a month. Unfortunately, the only other choice is JNB//SYD but that too only has F 5x or 6x week and has had some reliability issues. It would also bump you to an AONE5 instead of AONE4.

satprof Feb 1, 2009 2:44 pm


Originally Posted by AAJetMan (Post 11181194)
I would buy a separate ticket JNB-CPT (perhaps South African Airways)

Depends on whether you want *A or OW miles. The BA franchise carrier Comair flies that route & is very good, IME. There are also several LCCs offering various levels of prices & reliability, 'though I've never tried them.

AAJetMan Feb 1, 2009 5:59 pm


Originally Posted by cs19 (Post 11181918)
CX has proven unreliable on their JNB//HKG service schedule. A few months ago they were showing a 744 with F 4x week for the summer, then it changed to 3x a week. Then, a month or so ago they dropped that altogether and showed no F product on that route from mid-April through October. Now, they're showing a Wed-only F available on the 343 for that route.

My point is, I wouldn't keep your hopes up. (Northern Hemisphere) Summer F offerings on that route seems to change once a month. Unfortunately, the only other choice is JNB//SYD but that too only has F 5x or 6x week and has had some reliability issues. It would also bump you to an AONE5 instead of AONE4.

Thank you for the insight. I want the "A" experience while minimizing scheduling vagaries. I'll have to re-assess.

AAJetMan Feb 1, 2009 6:00 pm


Originally Posted by satprof (Post 11182150)
Depends on whether you want *A or OW miles. The BA franchise carrier Comair flies that route & is very good, IME. There are also several LCCs offering various levels of prices & reliability, 'though I've never tried them.

Good point...OW...thanks for the Comair suggestion.

Dr. HFH Feb 2, 2009 3:45 am


Originally Posted by AAJetMan (Post 11181619)
Is the 343 at least a lie flat in First?

Yes, old seat which does lie flat. No mattress or any other pad. F will most likely not be full, so take an extra duvet, double it up lengthwise, and use it as a mattress pad.



Originally Posted by AAJetMan (Post 11181619)
Does CX offer any suites ex Africa nonstop to Hong Kong or Tokyo?

No, the only CX metal service ex-Africa is JNB-HKG.


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