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Is this DONE4 routing acceptable?
Hey,
Please will you chaps OK this for me or give pointers. I am not sure how similiar triangular tickets are to true RTW tickets. JNB-PLZ-JNB-LHR-BRU-LHR-JFK-MCO-ORD-SEA-LAX-SYD-MEL-BRISBANE-MEL-SYD-JNB? Is that routing OK? |
No - fails at the second sector: you can't travel via the point of origin. Otherwise fine as far as I can see.
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Originally Posted by christep
(Post 10793205)
No - fails at the second sector: you can't travel via the point of origin. Otherwise fine as far as I can see.
Say PLZ-JNB-ETC? |
There are many ways to do it. The key point is you can't return to the starting city until the end of the trip.
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You can plug your planned itinerary into the "Oneworld Explorer Validator" function of "MileageMonkey" to check.
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Originally Posted by christep
(Post 10793205)
No - fails at the second sector: you can't travel via the point of origin. Otherwise fine as far as I can see.
Originally Posted by 747-444
(Post 10793211)
So I would need to start outside of JNB?
Say PLZ-JNB-ETC? There's also a second problem, SEA-LAX is not on Oneworld metal (Alaska codeshare) thus not eligible for the Oneworld Explorer. However your proposed route is less than 34,000 miles (around 31,500) so it would qualify for a Global Explorer 34,000 mile business class ticket (same price as a DONE4.) Alaska Airlines is now allowed for the GlobEx, so your route could fit within those product's rules. You might consult the Oneworld website about this. Note too if you didn't want to transit LHR a second time AA flies nonstop BRU-JFK. |
Originally Posted by Gardyloo
(Post 10793240)
Yes.
There's also a second problem, SEA-LAX is not on Oneworld metal (Alaska codeshare) thus not eligible for the Oneworld Explorer. However your proposed route is less than 34,000 miles (around 31,500) so it would qualify for a Global Explorer 34,000 mile business class ticket (same price as a DONE4.) Alaska Airlines is now allowed for the GlobEx, so your route could fit within those product's rules. You might consult the Oneworld website about this. Note too if you didn't want to transit LHR a second time AA flies nonstop BRU-JFK. The OP could also go LAX-MEL direct rather than LAX-SYD-MEL. |
Originally Posted by DownUnderFlyer
(Post 10794485)
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The OP could also go LAX-MEL direct rather than LAX-SYD-MEL. |
Originally Posted by pandaperth
(Post 10796294)
And this could be on QF's A380
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Originally Posted by DownUnderFlyer
(Post 10796535)
Both could.
Is it possible to use AA miles to upgrade a one of my rtw flights? I would like to upgrade the A380 flight to F, can I do this? |
Originally Posted by 747-444
(Post 10799455)
This is very much my intention.
Is it possible to use AA miles to upgrade a one of my rtw flights? I would like to upgrade the A380 flight to F, can I do this? |
Originally Posted by pjoalfa
(Post 10799993)
Regrettably, no. You can only use AA miles to upgrade AA metal.
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Originally Posted by 747-444
(Post 10800085)
I am sure AA and QF codeshare this flight, what happens if I get on a flight with an AA flight number? Can I then use my AA miles to upgrade?
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Originally Posted by Gardyloo
(Post 10800590)
Negatory. AA upgrades only on AA metal.
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Since this thread is a routing question and been answered and deals with Africa as a starting point , could someone give me their view on the following. I called the AA RTW and did not get a real experienced rep. I want to make sure this is still valid with all the new rules and interpretations before I call back to dispute it.
JNB-LHR-DFW(STOP)-EZE(STOP)-JFK-HKG(STOP)-SYD(STOP)-LHR(STOP)-DXB(STOP)-LHR(STOP)-IST(STOP)-LHR(STOP)-NBO I believe it is legal but I have never done this before. Thanks anc305 |
No - you have two entries to Europe, which is allowed only if one of them is a transit to or from one of the permitted African countries. Your Europe transit is from S Africa (not one of the exception countries).
If you swapped NBO and JNB it would be a valid xONE6. This is unaffected by any rule changes in the last 5 years. |
See post #5 about the useful tool provided for use by SLF and developed by hauteboy.
Originally Posted by serfty
(Post 10793239)
You can plug your planned itinerary into the "Oneworld Explorer Validator" function of "MileageMonkey" to check.
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Originally Posted by anc305
(Post 10803316)
Since this thread is a routing question and been answered and deals with Africa as a starting point , could someone give me their view on the following. I called the AA RTW and did not get a real experienced rep. I want to make sure this is still valid with all the new rules and interpretations before I call back to dispute it.
JNB-LHR-DFW(STOP)-EZE(STOP)-JFK-HKG(STOP)-SYD(STOP)-LHR(STOP)-DXB(STOP)-LHR(STOP)-IST(STOP)-LHR(STOP)-NBO I believe it is legal but I have never done this before. Thanks anc305 JNB-LHR(STOP)-DXB(STOP)-LHR(STOP)-IST(STOP)-LHR-DFW(STOP)-EZE(STOP)-JFK-HKG(STOP)-SYD(STOP)-LHR-NBO. This is almost 58500 flown miles and you could still add 4 more segments (although not in Europe, where you have used your 4). You could also return to JNB directly from SYD, gaining another spare segment but losing 8000 miles. |
Can I fly on an AA codeshre during a DONE4?
I am going to land up in Seattle as part of my RTW and need to get to LAX to fly to Sydney, can I then get on that Alaska Airlines code share with an AA flight number, will they accept that?
Alternatively any suggestions? |
Originally Posted by 747-444
(Post 10810530)
I am going to land up in Seattle as part of my RTW and need to get to LAX to fly to Sydney, can I then get on that Alaska Airlines code share with an AA flight number, will they accept that?
Alternatively any suggestions? To save hassle and cost, you might think about SFO-SYD as SFO is easier to transit and the AS connections to/from SEA are easier too. I despise the AS operation at LAX. |
Originally Posted by 747-444
(Post 10810530)
I am going to land up in Seattle as part of my RTW and need to get to LAX to fly to Sydney, can I then get on that Alaska Airlines code share with an AA flight number, will they accept that?
Alternatively any suggestions? |
Merge threads
Originally Posted by Gardyloo
(Post 10810734)
No, no AS metal allowed with any xONEx products. It's okay with a DGLOB34 (Global Explorer) however, since AS is included as an eligible carrier. There are no eligible Oneworld transpacific departures from SEA at all.
To save hassle and cost, you might think about SFO-SYD as SFO is easier to transit and the AS connections to/from SEA are easier too. I despise the AS operation at LAX. Best if these 2 threads were merged as about one possible itinerary. Asking the same question twice won't get a different answer. |
Originally Posted by Gardyloo
(Post 10810734)
No, no AS metal allowed with any xONEx products. It's okay with a DGLOB34 (Global Explorer) however, since AS is included as an eligible carrier. There are no eligible Oneworld transpacific departures from SEA at all.
To save hassle and cost, you might think about SFO-SYD as SFO is easier to transit and the AS connections to/from SEA are easier too. I despise the AS operation at LAX. |
Originally Posted by 747-444
(Post 10810530)
I am going to land up in Seattle as part of my RTW and need to get to LAX to fly to Sydney, can I then get on that Alaska Airlines code share with an AA flight number, will they accept that?
Alternatively any suggestions? |
On a one world global explorer and a DONE4, my travel agent keeps saying domestically in the US the ticket must be issued for Y class not A/P.
Is she correct? |
Domestically in the US, a DONEn books into A (first) on 2-class flights, D (business) on 3-class flights, and Y (economy) on single class flights.
If there is no availability in A on a 2-class or D on a 3-class then you can get L (economy) if available. Why are you using a travel agent with no expertise in these tickets? I would recommend setting them up through the AA RTW desk. |
Originally Posted by christep
(Post 10815636)
Why are you using a travel agent with no expertise in these tickets? I would recommend setting them up through the AA RTW desk.
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Originally Posted by christep
(Post 10815636)
Domestically in the US, a DONEn books into A (first) on 2-class flights, D (business) on 3-class flights, and Y (economy) on single class flights.
If there is no availability in A on a 2-class or D on a 3-class then you can get L (economy) if available. Why are you using a travel agent with no expertise in these tickets? I would recommend setting them up through the AA RTW desk. |
Originally Posted by 747-444
(Post 10815820)
Very long story. And this bloody agent is charging me 8% commission on the ticket price. A fool and his money are soon parted.
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On a single class AeAgle flights (AA Flights 3000-5599) it books into Y for A/DONEx's.
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Hey chaps, apologies for coming back to this so often.
I have ascertained I can not start in JNB and fly back to it and then out of SA. What happens thou if I start in PLZ and do this, PLZ-JNB-CPT-JNB-LHR-NYC-ETC ETC ETC. |
Originally Posted by 747-444
(Post 10823502)
Hey chaps, apologies for coming back to this so often.
I have ascertained I can not start in JNB and fly back to it and then out of SA. What happens thou if I start in PLZ and do this, PLZ-JNB-CPT-JNB-LHR-NYC-ETC ETC ETC. |
Originally Posted by 747-444
(Post 10823502)
Hey chaps, apologies for coming back to this so often.
I have ascertained I can not start in JNB and fly back to it and then out of SA. What happens thou if I start in PLZ and do this, PLZ-JNB-CPT-JNB-LHR-NYC-ETC ETC ETC. |
LHR-JFK in J on BA or AA, on AA I get miles.
I am going to fly LHR-JFK in the coming months in J. I have flown BA J a number of times but I have never had a ride on the new product.
Do I fly on BA across the pond in J and miss out on the miles or go AA and get the miles. Is there much difference between the two products in J, especially to warrant the loss of miles? |
I haven't experienced the new BA J product, but I prefer NGBC over the older BA J product. However, as for the miles, only you can decide how important ~15-20K miles are to you (depending on bonuses and promotions).
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This is FT. Go for the flight where you will get the miles.
The updated BA product is nice, but not much different to the old one which already was quite good anyway. |
Originally Posted by DownUnderFlyer
(Post 10834934)
This is FT. Go for the flight where you will get the miles.
The updated BA product is nice, but not much different to the old one which already was quite good anyway. |
IMHO, JFK-LHR is a short enough flight that the difference between AA & BA isn't significant enough to warrant losing the EQM.
BA J is nice because of the flat seats, but I actually found that I sleep just as well on AA. Their "wedgie" seats don't seem to bother me as much as those from SQ, AF and others... |
I would suggest just taking the AA daytime flight. The AA seat is pretty decent for a daytime flight and can earn miles. The BA seat is better for night flights
Dave |
Agree with Dave Noble - if you were flying overnight JFK-LHR, pick BA because it's a fully flat bed and on the Sleeper Service you eat dinner in the lounge before and then get about 7 hours sleep. As you're flying the other way, you'll probably stay awake the whole flight so a fully flat bed is less critical - and the miles are!
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