FlyerTalk Forums

FlyerTalk Forums (https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/index.php)
-   oneworld (https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/oneworld-411/)
-   -   RTW ticket, longest routings ?? [On 16 segment rules] (https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/oneworld/830745-rtw-ticket-longest-routings-16-segment-rules.html)

G-CIVC Nov 5, 2016 9:24 pm


Originally Posted by Dr. HFH (Post 27442366)
Just booked a DONE4: CAI-LHR-DOH-CDG-DOH-SYD-NRT-DEL-NRT-CMB-NRT-BOS-LAX-MBJ-LAX-DOH-CAI at 64,415 BIS miles.

Am thinking of CAI-LHR-DOH-CDG-DOH-xxxxxx for a DONE3...are these couple of segments YQ killer? (my rest of legs are mainly AA/CX...if that makes a difference I plan to issue it on 160 stock)

Dr. HFH Nov 5, 2016 11:51 pm


Originally Posted by G-CIVC (Post 27442556)
Am thinking of CAI-LHR-DOH-CDG-DOH-xxxxxx for a DONE3...are these couple of segments YQ killer? (my rest of legs are mainly AA/CX...if that makes a difference I plan to issue it on 160 stock)

Could you be more specific about "YQ killer," please? I use CDG for that turn when I fly these itineraries in F because QR makes no A bucket F space available to LHR, but nearly always available to CDG. The airport is easy (you can stay airside and just turn around before you even get to any transit desk) and it's about the same distance as LHR.

G-CIVC Nov 6, 2016 12:09 am


Originally Posted by Dr. HFH (Post 27442902)
Could you be more specific about "YQ killer," please? I use CDG for that turn when I fly these itineraries in F because QR makes no A bucket F space available to LHR, but nearly always available to CDG. The airport is easy (you can stay airside and just turn around before you even get to any transit desk) and it's about the same distance as LHR.

Sorry if I wasn't specific enough. I meant if these few segments massively increased your fuel surcharge amounts on top of the base fare because BA and QR have very high fuel surcharges, compared to AA/CX etc...

anat0l Nov 6, 2016 3:35 pm


Originally Posted by Dr. HFH (Post 27442366)
Just booked a DONE4: CAI-LHR-DOH-CDG-DOH-SYD-NRT-DEL-NRT-CMB-NRT-BOS-LAX-MBJ-LAX-DOH-CAI at 64,415 BIS miles.

How did you book this?

Did you need to be in Egypt to book it, or had a friend or contact there who helped you?

I'm assuming you chose CAI as origin for price purposes.

pandaperth Nov 6, 2016 3:58 pm


Originally Posted by Dr. HFH (Post 27442366)
Just booked a DONE4: CAI-LHR-DOH-CDG-DOH-SYD-NRT-DEL-NRT-CMB-NRT-BOS-LAX-MBJ-LAX-DOH-CAI at 64,415 BIS miles.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings, but I expect the rate desk will knock this itinerary back. The reason is that it has five segments in Europe/Middle East when only four are allowed.

anat0l Nov 6, 2016 4:08 pm


Originally Posted by pandaperth (Post 27445623)
Sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings, but I expect the rate desk will knock this itinerary back. The reason is that it has five segments in Europe/Middle East when only four are allowed.

How could the Dr book it in the first place if the rates desk should / would have knocked it back?

Unless the tickets haven't been issued yet.

pandaperth Nov 6, 2016 4:13 pm

The Dr has stated in another thread (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/27442400-post521.html) that his itinerary has gone to the AA rate desk.
Looks like an inexperienced agent did not realise there were five segments in Europe/Middle East and so let it go through.

headinclouds Nov 6, 2016 4:20 pm


Originally Posted by pandaperth (Post 27445676)
The Dr has stated in another thread (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/27442400-post521.html) that his itinerary has gone to the AA rate desk.
Looks like an inexperienced agent did not realise there were five segments in Europe/Middle East and so let it go through.

The reservation agents do make mistakes that are caught by tariffs. I had USA-ASIA-AUSTRALIA-SYD-KUL-LHR with a 2nd stop in Asia which was found by tariffs and corrected once the agent booked the proper KUL-LHR flight. Just drop the DOH-CAI segment and all is OK.

Dr. HFH Nov 6, 2016 5:08 pm


Originally Posted by pandaperth (Post 27445623)
Sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings, but I expect the rate desk will knock this itinerary back. The reason is that it has five segments in Europe/Middle East when only four are allowed.

Not to worry, -- I'd rather have accurate info even if it's not what I want to hear.

Doesn't really matter, though. I would just drop DOH-CAI and terminate at DOH. It's a short flight anyway, and means only that I would have to pay to go back to CAI to start the next one. I'll just try to use the segment somewhere else. Maybe change LAX-DOH to LAX-xxx-DOH, with a connection city. I don't like the 2󫎾 seating layout in 77x in the J cabin, and much prefer the 1󫎽 in the 787 and 350 series aircraft. One bummer, though, is that I planned an afternoon departure ex-DOH to CAI to give me a few hours in Al Safwa. :(

rollthere Nov 7, 2016 2:52 am


Originally Posted by Dr. HFH (Post 27445857)
One bummer, though, is that I planned an afternoon departure ex-DOH to CAI to give me a few hours in Al Safwa. :(

Talk about first world problems! :D

G-CIVC Nov 7, 2016 8:26 am

How does this look like for a DONE3?
Goal: maximize RDM, EQM/EQD don't care.

CAI-DOH-MAD-DOH-LHR-LAX-ORD-SJU-JFK-LAX-DFW-ORD-HKG-MLE-HKG-CMB-DOH

I just have to start in CAI, be in ORD quickly (so EU-->ORD in one go), and arrive in HKG for US->Asia. Also LHR-LAX and JFK-LAX as I want to use my SWUs...

Will book AA codeshares if there are to get 270 instead of 245% RDM. Plan to issue on 160 stock

Dr. HFH Nov 7, 2016 8:51 am


Originally Posted by pandaperth (Post 27445676)
The Dr has stated in another thread (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/27442400-post521.html) that his itinerary has gone to the AA rate desk.

Indeed. I've changed LAX-DOH-CAI at the end to LAX-DFW-CAI and the RTW desk has resubmitted to the rate desk. Who knows, -- by next July maybe the new J product will have been installed!

headinclouds Nov 7, 2016 9:00 am


Originally Posted by Dr. HFH (Post 27448263)
Indeed. I've changed LAX-DOH-CAI at the end to LAX-DFW-CAI and the RTW desk has resubmitted to the rate desk. Who knows, -- by next July maybe the new J product will have been installed!

DFW-CAI ?? Did I miss that announcement?

Dr. HFH Nov 7, 2016 9:03 am


Originally Posted by headinclouds (Post 27448308)
DFW-CAI ?? Did I miss that announcement?

HA!! No, you didn't; but I did mistype it. I meant, of course, LAX-DFW-DOH. Sorry.


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 6:37 pm.


This site is owned, operated, and maintained by MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Designated trademarks are the property of their respective owners.