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Qf107/108 Syd-jfk-lax?
Just wondering if I take 107 all the way to JFK, can I still take 108 to LAX (and not go back to SYD?)
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QF will not allow you to, unless you have an onward QF flight to Aust/NZ. You can include a stopover at LAX though.
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Originally Posted by rtwdone4
(Post 8029099)
Just wondering if I take 107 all the way to JFK, can I still take 108 to LAX (and not go back to SYD?)
Maybe you had a chance for this trip a few weeks back during the takeover time at QF. ;) |
Originally Posted by DownUnderFlyer
(Post 8044118)
QF does not have the right to fly pax from one airport in the US to another US airport unless it is part of an Australia trip. QF would need to be US owned in order to have this right.
Maybe you had a chance for this trip a few weeks back during the takeover time at QF. ;) I know this, but just wondering if I did take 107 all the way to JFK will make any difference? |
Originally Posted by DownUnderFlyer
QF does not have the right to fly pax from one airport in the US to another US airport unless it is part of an Australia trip. QF would need to be US owned in order to have this right. ...
@:-) Qantas Choose not to allow it (unless you employ QF trans pacific)! |
Qantas Choose not to allow it!
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Originally Posted by serfty
(Post 8048618)
Actually, AFAIK, Qantas DO have the right ... as long as it's part of an international trip; not necessarily on QF.
@:-) Qantas Choose not to allow it (unless you employ QF trans pacific)! And a foreign owned airline can not fly passengers (or freight) pure domestically in the US (Ask Virgin America or DHL about this issue). |
Originally Posted by DownUnderFlyer
Isn't this what I said? :confused: Okay, I said Australia and not international but for the OP this doesn't make a difference.
And a foreign owned airline can not fly passengers (or freight) pure domestically in the US (Ask Virgin America or DHL about this issue). |
Originally Posted by rtwdone4
Just wondering if I take 107 all the way to JFK, can I still take 108 to LAX (and not go back to SYD?)
The answer to that would be yes, as long as it's all on the one ticket. |
Originally Posted by serfty
(Post 8061870)
I have re-read this and believe the OP wants to know if they can take both QF107 SYD-JFK and then take QF108 from JFK to lax later in their itinerary.
The answer to that would be yes, as long as it's all on the one PNR/Ticket. |
For what it is worth, I agree with Serfty.
If you arrive into JFK on a QF international flight you can take the flight JFK-LAX at a later date. When they published paper timetables it clearly indicated that the LAX-JFK and JFK-LAX were available to international online stopover or connecting passengers only and if you choose to fly SYD-JFK-LAX all on QANTAS then you are doing an international online connection or stopover |
Originally Posted by 3544quebec
(Post 8061955)
For what it is worth, I agree with Serfty.
If you arrive into JFK on a QF international flight you can take the flight JFK-LAX at a later date. When they published paper timetables it clearly indicated that the LAX-JFK and JFK-LAX were available to international online stopover or connecting passengers only and if you choose to fly SYD-JFK-LAX all on QANTAS then you are doing an international online connection or stopover I would just get it crystal clear with QF. I had a ticket with an OK on my QF LAX/JFK leg, when I cked in for my CX flight they gave me my connecting QF boarding pass for the next day. When I checked in at AA in LAX they just said check with QF in the lounge as they like to issue their own BPs. I gave the agent at the lounge in LAX my BP and she couldn't spit out the QF BP. She asked me to wait in the FL which i did - for about 40 minutes - getting close to boarding. I came back out and the QF supervisor was there and he simply said, "You cant travel on our flight." It was an F ticket - no matter. I asked what he was going to do - he said, "check with BA, they issued the ticket" or something to that effect. After a serious conversation he took the BP to the AA agents and I was put on an AA flight. In LAX this was fairly easy as QF to JFK and AA depart from the same terminal. I believe ex-JFK the QF flight is later than any AA LAX flights plus they go out of different terminals. Just fair warning :D:D:D Good luck either way and let us know what happens ^ |
elitetraveler - the problem in your case was you had an international interline connection not an online connection HKG-LAX-JFK. That should never have been ticketed because QANTAS do not have carriage rights within the USA for interline connecting passengers.
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Originally Posted by 3544quebec
elitetraveler - the problem in your case was you had an international interline connection not an online connection HKG-LAX-JFK. That should never have been ticketed because QANTAS do not have carriage rights within the USA for interline connecting passengers.
To quote from another post:
Originally Posted by number_6
(Post 4042242)
... There is a finding published on the DOT web site from a US Attorney that addresses cabotage. A secondary point in the finding is that carriage to/from the US can be on any carrier, not restricted to the carrier of the domestic leg, to avoid cabotage. The only requirement is that it must be on the same ticket (doesn't even have to be the same PNR, since that isn't a legal contract of carriage). ...
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Originally Posted by serfty
(Post 8061848)
Fair enough - to clarify - QF107 could legally be part of a LAX-JFK-LHR itinerary. Such use would not violate cabotage rules. It's just that Qantas would refuse to sell a seat on it for such a routing.
I don't believe it is possible to travel on QF108 from JFK to LAX except to connect to an outbound same day QF service. Whether this is a US or a Qantas decision seems to have become the subject of debate now! I look forward to seeing where the debate progresses to now! |
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