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the strange guy Feb 7, 2007 12:25 pm

Non-completion of RTW
 
Hi everyone
My second last stop on my RTW ticket is HKG. What will happen if I do not take my final flight to DEL and stay on in HKG? Are there financial penalties? Will my name be blacklisted?
Thanks very much

Kiwi Flyer Feb 7, 2007 1:11 pm

Potentially you could be charged for the fare difference between RTW and series of one-way trips (ie potentially a lot). This is what the rules say.

I can't recall reading of anyone who actually has been charged this, but quite a costly mistake if the gamble doesn't pay off.

JohnAx Feb 7, 2007 1:24 pm

Often enough discussed, although with the limited search capability, asking again is understandable.

The correct answer you probably already know - your contract says you must complete the trip, and if you don't do so the airline(s) may bill you for the difference between the fare you paid and the published point-to-point fares for the segments you flew. That would be an exciting number.

That's usually followed by "but so far no one has been dinged, as far as (we) know."

Because the cost of becoming the Poster Child for RTW Compliance is potentially high, it sounds like most of the regulars go to significant lengths to complete their rtw's. My gang needs to end up at CMB in a few months, and it would be tempting to stop in Hong Kong also, but I'm not even considering it.

Viajero Feb 7, 2007 1:32 pm

Never done it, never would do it (too chicken). I also feel, and stated this before, that anyone who gets zapped for a LOT of $$$ is unlikely to come here and "boast" about it, so I don't find the lack of evidence all that reassuring.

jerry a. laska Feb 7, 2007 3:45 pm

A few of the threads where this has been discussed before including christep's fine discussion of how this relates to the conditions of carriage:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showt...=final+segment
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showt...=final+segment
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showt...=final+segment
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=439565
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showt...t=last+segment

millionmiler Feb 7, 2007 3:56 pm

I have failed to complete several RTW trips with no effect. I take about 10-15 per year for work.

flyhurl Jul 23, 2024 12:43 am

Any updates?
 

Originally Posted by millionmiler (Post 7178147)
I have failed to complete several RTW trips with no effect. I take about 10-15 per year for work.

Hi, I found this old post and wondered if there are any updates. We have a RTW that the last flight is HKG HEL OSL. Need to get to DFW and would like to just do HEL DFW on a seperate ticket and save the HEL OSL segment for later. IF for some reason we can't later use the HEL OSL ticket, would hope there would be no penalty?

Thanks in advance.

pandaperth Jul 23, 2024 8:12 am

I 'forgot' to take the last segment of my most recent RTW, in October last year.
No repercussions.

Welcome to FT

dvs7310 Jul 23, 2024 10:36 am


Originally Posted by flyhurl (Post 36397918)
Hi, I found this old post and wondered if there are any updates. We have a RTW that the last flight is HKG HEL OSL. Need to get to DFW and would like to just do HEL DFW on a seperate ticket and save the HEL OSL segment for later. IF for some reason we can't later use the HEL OSL ticket, would hope there would be no penalty?

Thanks in advance.


Originally Posted by pandaperth (Post 36398767)
I 'forgot' to take the last segment of my most recent RTW, in October last year.
No repercussions.

Welcome to FT

Yeah, same, I may or may not quite intentionally dump my final DOH-CAI segment later this year. Depends on the deals to Asia at the time.

I guess fairly though in the fare rules I'm allowed to stop my ticket anywhere in the middle east. So would technically be fine, but QF are generally morons and don't understand that and insist you can't have a stopover in the same place twice (which you definitely can, just a limitation in their own system).

I'd say most likely I'll end up asking for a change from DOH-CAI to DOH-AUH instead. We'll see nearer to the end of the year how that goes. Worst case I'll force it in DOH by myself with a no-show. Sadly ex-CAI fares aren't what they used to be and nothing particularly appealing to Asia at the moment.

As long as you dump your ticket in an area that's allowed in your fare, then you have zero to worry about. However older posts were referencing dumping a ticket in a zone that wouldn't have been allowed in the ticket.

pandaperth Jul 23, 2024 10:45 am


Originally Posted by dvs7310 (Post 36399168)
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As long as you dump your ticket in an area that's allowed in your fare, then you have zero to worry about. However older posts were referencing dumping a ticket in a zone that wouldn't have been allowed in the ticket.

My dump last year violated the fare rules. With no adverse consequence

My itinerary started from KHI (Karachi, Pakistan) was originally intended to end there.
But I changed my mind and no-showed for the final flight (CMB-KHI)
An itinerary that starts in Pakistan is required to end in Pakistan, ending in Sri Lanka is not allowed.

But realistically- who is going to check? Sri Lankan Airlines would have just shrugged their shoulders when I no-showed.

flyhurl Jul 23, 2024 1:11 pm


Originally Posted by pandaperth (Post 36399198)
My dump last year violated the fare rules. With no adverse consequence

My itinerary started from KHI (Karachi, Pakistan) was originally intended to end there.
But I changed my mind and no-showed for the final flight (CMB-KHI)
An itinerary that starts in Pakistan is required to end in Pakistan, ending in Sri Lanka is not allowed.

But realistically- who is going to check? Sri Lankan Airlines would have just shrugged their shoulders when I no-showed.

I looked closely at my RTW ticket. The last flight is shown as HKG HEL OSL (two segments). Can you rebook one segment? No show? Fly later the same day on same airline on a separate ticket?

Trying to look at all the options to get home in less than 48 hours of travel. Thank for reading this far ;)

flyhurl Jul 23, 2024 1:53 pm

Flight vs. Segment is that an issue?
 

Originally Posted by pandaperth (Post 36399198)
My dump last year violated the fare rules. With no adverse consequence

My itinerary started from KHI (Karachi, Pakistan) was originally intended to end there.
But I changed my mind and no-showed for the final flight (CMB-KHI)
An itinerary that starts in Pakistan is required to end in Pakistan, ending in Sri Lanka is not allowed.

But realistically- who is going to check? Sri Lankan Airlines would have just shrugged their shoulders when I no-showed.

More detail - We have a RTW that the last flight is HKG HEL OSL (shown on ticket as one flight, two segments). Need to get to DFW and would like to just do HEL DFW on a separate ticket.

So can we reschedule a segment vs. flight? Or can we just no show the HEL OSL flight? and take the same airline HEL DFW 7 hours later on a separately booked ticket? This option gets us to DFW 8 hours earlier with 2 less stops than going on to OSL then DFW.

Just trying to understand the options. Thanks.

wandering_fred Jul 23, 2024 9:59 pm

Speaking pedantically, the xONEx tickets need to be ISSUED to comply with the routing rules of the tickets.
I do also note that most airlines will happily sell you an airline ticket that you will not fly nor request a refund for..... "COVID?"

Be creative in scheduling your wandering
Fred


Dr. HFH Jul 24, 2024 4:54 am


Originally Posted by pandaperth (Post 36399198)
My itinerary started from KHI (Karachi, Pakistan) . . . .

Were you already in Karachi, or did you just fly in to start the itinerary? I wanted to do that, but one of my close friends is from Pakistan and he said that he wouldn't feel comfortable about my safety at the airport even if it was just from arrivals to departures unless he was there to escort me personally. How was your experience?

pandaperth Jul 24, 2024 8:22 am


Originally Posted by Dr. HFH (Post 36401365)
Were you already in Karachi, or did you just fly in to start the itinerary? I wanted to do that, but one of my close friends is from Pakistan and he said that he wouldn't feel comfortable about my safety at the airport even if it was just from arrivals to departures unless he was there to escort me personally. How was your experience?

I have been in the airport twice. Never to the city!

First time I flew in on a separate ticket (EBB-xDOH-KHI) to start a DONE4 (first flight KHI-CMB)
So just a few hours in transit, which the airport totally is not set up for. I had to wait just prior to immigration, until the Sri Lanka Airlines station manager turned up. He then took care of me. I only had carry-on baggage so no problem there.

I returned to KHI at the end of the DONE4, and started a DGLOB34 (first flights KHI-xDOH-NBO).
So again, just in transit for a few hours, this time with a checked bag.
The Qatar Airways station manager took me through immigration, issued my boarding passes (I already had passes issued by Sri Lankan, but he insisted he give me new ones) and he escorted me back through emigration. He then went to track down my checked bag. I was seated in the plane when he came onboard to give me my new baggage check! As I said, the airport doesn't handle transit passengers at all well.

I didn't return to KHI at the end of the DGLOB34 (I 'forgot' to take the CMB-KHI flight) and took a separate CMB-BKK flight instead :D

However, I felt perfectly safe in the airport itself.


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