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Kiwi Flyer Jan 18, 2007 5:20 pm


Originally Posted by Guy Betsy (Post 7044992)
On oneworld tickets? No - that's 20 segments!

I believe the OP is talking about an AAdvantage one world award (quite why this is in OW forum and not in AAdvantage forum I don't know), not a paid fare.

Who knows how the computer is programmed for complex itins like this. If you are going to create complex routings to maximise your value you have to expect sometimes to run up against limits of computer. No problem with paper ticket, but the OP wanted an e-ticket.

Guy Betsy Jan 18, 2007 6:29 pm


Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer (Post 7045432)
I believe the OP is talking about an AAdvantage one world award (quite why this is in OW forum and not in AAdvantage forum I don't know), not a paid fare.

Who knows how the computer is programmed for complex itins like this. If you are going to create complex routings to maximise your value you have to expect sometimes to run up against limits of computer. No problem with paper ticket, but the OP wanted an e-ticket.

Yeah.. I think we either spoil or confuse these newbies too much !

True - it's an award - it's not this forum's problem.

AAaLot Jan 18, 2007 7:04 pm

Feedback: when I called back the AAgent quickly noticed the problem. The first agent had messed up. Only 16 segments are allowed.

AAaLot Jan 18, 2007 7:14 pm

Feedback: I called back. I think have it ticketed with 16 segments and co-terminals LGA/JFK included (i.e. confidently told the next AAgent to make the change and gave her a credit card).

Based on the rules this seems right anyway.

Dave Noble Jan 18, 2007 8:06 pm


Originally Posted by AAaLot (Post 7046205)
Feedback: I called back. I think have it ticketed with 16 segments and co-terminals LGA/JFK included (i.e. confidently told the next AAgent to make the change and gave her a credit card).

Based on the rules this seems right anyway.

If there is an issue it will be picked up before ticketing , so keep a track on it having been issued.

Dave

Austinrunner Jan 18, 2007 11:45 pm


Originally Posted by Guy Betsy (Post 7044992)
The 16 segment rule applies for all automated ticketings.. e-ticket or paper. Beyond that, AA must write out a manual ticket.

Or else AA may transfer the booking to a SABRE equipped TA and they can issue up to 24 segments on paper automated. But you only need 20 anyway.

So, if I want a 24 segment oneworld award using American Airlines miles, all I have to do is ask AA to handwrite the ticket or transfer the booking to a Sabre equipped travel agent? If so, I must have misconstrued the previous flyertalk discussions about this limit and will certainly change the sticky as soon as this ticketing possibility is confirmed.

Austinrunner Jan 18, 2007 11:57 pm


Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer
I believe the OP is talking about an AAdvantage one world award (quite why this is in OW forum and not in AAdvantage forum I don't know)....


Originally Posted by Guy Betsy
True - it's an award - it's not this forum's problem.

You guys are confusing me. Should this almost 2-year old thread be transferred to the AA forum? And should future threads about oneworld awards instead be in the forum of the airline whose miles are being used for the award?

Dave Noble Jan 19, 2007 2:31 am


Originally Posted by Austinrunner (Post 7047841)
You guys are confusing me. Should this almost 2-year old thread be transferred to the AA forum? And should future threads about oneworld awards instead be in the forum of the airline whose miles are being used for the award?

Questions about awards are specific to the airline, there isn't a standard set of award rules across all the OW carriers so it would make more sense for it to be located in the carrier specific forum

Im confused about the 2 years ago comment; from what I see, this thread is < 2 days old

Dave

Dave Noble Jan 19, 2007 2:33 am


Originally Posted by Austinrunner (Post 7047798)
So, if I want a 24 segment oneworld award using American Airlines miles, all I have to do is ask AA to handwrite the ticket or transfer the booking to a Sabre equipped travel agent? If so, I must have misconstrued the previous flyertalk discussions about this limit and will certainly change the sticky as soon as this ticketing possibility is confirmed.

No. The AA awards are , as detailed in the award rules link earlier in the thread "Itinerary may not exceed 16 segments. "


Dave

Viajero Jan 19, 2007 4:10 am


Originally Posted by Dave Noble (Post 7048197)
...Im confused about the 2 years ago comment; from what I see, this thread is < 2 days old

I believe Austinrunner is talking about the sticky post he authored.

The issue of a proper "home" for the AA oneworld award sticky has been discussed before, and obviously there are mixed opinions. IMO there's no perfect forum for it so it might as well stay here, where its author meant it to be. It has been crosslinked in an AA forum sticky, so little harm is done by letting things as they are.

Austinrunner Jan 19, 2007 10:08 am


Originally Posted by Dave Noble (Post 7048197)
Im confused about the 2 years ago comment; from what I see, this thread is < 2 days old

Sorry, my error! I was indeed referring to the sticky that I authored and maintain.

Dave Noble Jan 19, 2007 12:10 pm


Originally Posted by Viajero (Post 7048404)
The issue of a proper "home" for the AA oneworld award sticky has been discussed before, and obviously there are mixed opinions. IMO there's no perfect forum for it so it might as well stay here, where its author meant it to be. It has been crosslinked in an AA forum sticky, so little harm is done by letting things as they are.

I dunno. I would have thought that if posting a question which is specifically about an AAdvantage award would have found a perfect home in the AAdvantage forum .

I would have seen this akin to posting a question about a AA partner award where booking travel on BA in the BA forum

*shrug*

Dave

Kiwi Flyer Jan 19, 2007 12:46 pm


Originally Posted by Austinrunner (Post 7047841)
And should future threads about oneworld awards instead be in the forum of the airline whose miles are being used for the award?

That would make the most sense to me. Each FFP has its own set of rules. As this thread illustrates it can get confusing at times to be discussing an award ticket for a particular FFP.

In *A, mostly, the threads relating to awards and award rules are posted in the home airline forum. This not only reduces confusion but also provides more visibility to the question in the forum with more FTers who are familiar with the intracacies of the award rules.

Austinrunner Jan 19, 2007 1:01 pm


Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer (Post 7051280)
As this thread illustrates it can get confusing at times to be discussing an award ticket for a particular FFP.

Yet, the title of this thread specifically references "AA miles.":rolleyes:

Austinrunner Jan 19, 2007 1:03 pm


Originally Posted by Dave Noble (Post 7051006)
I would have thought that if posting a question which is specifically about an AAdvantage award would have found a perfect home in the AAdvantage forum .

On the other hand, AA calls this award a "oneworld" award.


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