Route Check DONE4
 

Can someone please validate this routing on a DONE4? I am particularly concerned about going ASIA-SWP-EUROPE-NA-ASIA. Thanks in advance.

BOM CX
X BKK CX
X SIN CX
X SYD BA
MEL QF
SYD QF
PER QF
X SYD BA
LHR BA
AMM BA
LHR BA
JFK BA
HKG CX
BOM CX

Only 1 transcon allowed in Australia, so SYD-PER-SYD is not allowed. You can do SYD-PER-CBR instead, or SYD-PER-ADL-SYD at the cost of another sector. Otherwise it looks fine.

Would need to drop one of the other inter-Australia flights since already has 4.

Or just purchase another stop as number 6 suggested. The OP has plenty of available segments with his current itinerary.

would:

BOM CX
X HKG CX
MEL

or even:

BOM CX
X HKG CX
X AKL QF
MEL

be more comfortable journeys? (BOM-HKG is via BKK of course) The former would also free up an SWP sector for SYD-PER-ADL-SYD.

Technically, yes, it is fewer flights to use BOM/HKG/MEL. However, I am trying to use as many BA flights as possible because there is a promotion on right now for a 50,000 miles bonus for each 2 one-way flights in ClubWorld or First flown before 18 December 2006.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=613784

Cathay says routing is not valid
 

Cathay in the US is telling me that I cannot do Asia-SWP-(Asia)-Europe as this is backtracking. I am very surprised but cannot convince them otherwise. They say that from SWP, I must continue across the Pacific to North America or South America and then across the Atlantic to Europe! :mad:

Add a couple of AA segs in (in N. America) then phone AA.

... or, if you don't want to add any NA segments, book the JFK-HKG AA codeshare.

Rubbish of course. I did a DONE3 with exactly that routing last year (simplifying slightly: TPE-xHKG-SYD-xHKG-LHR-BWI-JFK-HKG-TPE). Backktracking is only prohibited between TC zones (plus the specific exception of Hawaii). Asia and SWP are both within TC3.
Just insist and ask them to put it to their rate desk. The problem you've got is some front line agent who thinks s/he knows the rules and clearly doesn't. Insist that she consults the internal experts.

Thanks! Where are the TCs explained?
 

Thanks all for your input. Do you have a link for where the TC zones are explained? I cannot find in on the OneWorld website. Thanks again.

TC1 = North & South America
TC2 = Europe/Middle East & Africa
TC3 = Asia & South West Pacific

Thanks again! Do you have a link documenting TCs
 

Thanks again! Do do have a link that documents these TCs or Travel Conferences? Does anyone know to get this information in Galileo?

Google is your friend: http://www.iata.org/whatwedo/passenger/irms/area.htm

Thanks, I saw that but is not very clear. Has too many things and more than one description for each TC e.g.:
TC1 Mexico sub-area
TC1 Caribbean sub-area
TC1 Longhaul sub-area
TC1 Within South America sub-area

Does not show USA or Canada as a part of the TC1 description. Is that supposed be be Longhaul sub-area? I guess one can try to read between the lines and figure it all out. I went to the IATA site and spend a long time seraching but could not find anything clear-cut which shows TC1, TC2, TC3!

What could possibly be more clear-cut than post #12? :)

Thank you! ^

I've never managed to find an "official" document online that simply defines them. But there are many pages on various sites which illustrate it. For example: http://www.jal.co.jp/en/jalcargo/inter/map/

Page 10 of this document, which is on teh IATA website, also defines them:
http://www.iata.org/NR/rdonlyres/DF0...0/Section3.pdf

A follow up question on alternate routing
 

Thanks everyone for your valuable advice. So my sister is finally in the middle of her DONE4 trip! The itinerary was slightly changed because of avilability, etc. as follows:

BOM QF X/SYD QF MEL QF SYD QF OOL //BNE QF PER BA X/SIN BA LON BA MCT BA LON BA NYC AA SFO CX HKG CX BOM

I managed to get it validated by AA and had it issued in India. BA, CX or QF were not willing to issue it!

Now, I have 2 questions:

1. I am unable to get a seat from SIN-LHR on 1st December on BA or QF or via HKG or BKK on any of the OneWorld Carriers in D class. Is there any other routing that can be used to get from PER to LHR without violating the DONE4 rules or using up one of the two UK to Middle East segments.

2. For purposes of the two segment restriction between the UK and Middle East, can you do get between the Middle East and London on a OW cooneecting flight that would not violate this rule?

1. PER-NRT-LHR is a possible route, but there's no availability on NRT-LHR on 2/12 according to expertflyer. If you could stay one day in Tokyo:
QF79 dep 1/12 22:10, arr 21/12 08:45
BA6 dep 3/12 11:00, arr 3/12 14:30
(can't depart PER on 2/12 since it's not daily).

2. No.

But you have a load of spare segments, so how about:

PER-HKG-BKK-HEL-LHR
30/11: CX170 dep 12:50, arr HKG 20:35
30/11: CX709 dep 22:00 arr BKK 23:50
1/12: AY96 dep 12:35
1/12: AY835 arr LHR 20:40

all have D according to EF.

The PER-NRT-LHR with a stopover will not work because it will violate the rules. Can only be done if NRT-LHR is within 24 hours. Also, she needs to be in London on 2nd December. She is already confirmed PER-SIN-LHR on 3 DEC.

The PER-HKG-BKK-HEL-LHR on 30 NOV is too early. She only gets into PER on 29 NOV at approx 6 PM. Defeats the purpose of going to PER. Also on 30NOV, PER-HKG and 1DEC HKG-LHR is available on CX so will not need to do take 4 flights.

Thanks anyway.

I think that under the new constraints posted above your sister will have to either re-route via MEL (D9 to LHR), or take that PER-HKG flight on the 30th, or face a downgrade to economy via NRT or elsewhere, because SIN-LHR is showing not only D0 but L0 as well.