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serfty Aug 15, 2005 6:05 pm

Has xONEx Rerouting fee increased to US$125?
 
The xGLOB* "VOLUNTARY REBOOKING/REROUTING" increases to US$125/AU$170 from 1st September. There is more about that in the thread linked below.

Also, in this thread ropmot141 has posted a link about xONEx rule changes, coming inte effect yesterday.

Here is that post: Looks like xONEx changes too. This indicates changes to Oz routings, Japan Pricing and rebooking/rerouting conditions.

Also indicated are changes to the penalty fee for rerouting. I have not been able to find what they are. Based on the xGLOB* change, I would hazard a guess this has increased to US$125 as well.

Does anyone have further information on this? (I'm also interested in chages to Oz routings for that matter).

christep Aug 15, 2005 6:55 pm

Yes they have. Also for Circle Trip tickets, for which (only) the first change is now free of charge, strangely. Note also that the restrictions in Australia have increased - capturing the MEL-PER and BME flights which previously weren't on the restricted list. Here is this advice issued to TAs by CX:

Code:

oneworld Fare Conditions Revise Effective 15 August 2005 

Please be advised the following changes to fare conditions of oneworld Explorer Fare, Global Explorer Fare and oneworld Circle Trip Fare for ticket issue on / after 15 August 2005:

Changes Highlight

1. oneworld Explorer Fare
  Para 04 Point J - Amendment to flights within Australia

  J/within Australia - Only one nonstop/single plane service flight
                        is permitted between the following points.

  ~~For ticket issue on / after 15 August 2005~~
  BNE/CNS/SYD/MEL-PER
  MEL/SYD-BME
  MEL/SYD-DRW

Exception
  A. No restriction between SYD/MEL-PER for passengers originating
      in PER when in conjunction with travel to/from JNB/BOW/SHA/PEK.

  B. No restriction between SYD/MEL-PER for passengers origination
      in New Zealand when in conjunction with travel to/from JNB.

  Para 16 - Rewording to clarify revalidation, increase penalty fee to
            USD125.

  CHANGES AFTER DEPARTURE
  ~~For ticket issue on/after 15 August 2005~~
    - Date/Time changes permitted at no charge.
    - Date/Time/oneworld carrier changes are permitted without reissue
      provided origin/destination/connecting points and inventory remain
      the same.
    - Routing changes other than to Date/Time/oneworld carrier permitted
      at a charge of USD125.00 per transaction.
    - Ticket must be reissued.

2. Global Explorer Fare
  Para 16 - Rewording to clarify revalidation, increase penalty fee to
            USD125.00

  CHANGES BEFORE DEPARTURE
  For travel worldwide except SWP
  ~~FOR TICKET ISSUE ON/AFTER 15AUG05~~
  - After ticket issuance - Changes to the first international flight
    and preceding flights are not permitted less than 7 days prior to
    the date of the first ticketed flight.
  - Date/Time changes to other flights permitted at no charge.
  - Date/Time/Global Explorer participating carrier changes permitted
    without reissue provided origin/destination/connecting points and
    inventory remain the same.
  - Changes other than to Date/Time/Global Explorer participating carrier
    permitted for charge USD125.00 per transaction.

  CHANGES AFTER DEPARTURE
  ~~For ticket issue on/after 15AUG05~~

  - Date/Time changes permitted at no charge.
  - Date/Time/Global Explorer participating carrier changes are permitted
    without reissue provided origin/destination/connecting points and
    inventory remain the same.
  - Routing changes other than Date/Time/Global Explorer participating
    carrier permitted at a charge of USD125.00 per transaction. If
    currency of ticket origin is not shown convert the USD amount at the
    BSR. If the routing results in a change to the total ticketed miles
    standard rerouting procedures apply the ticket shall be recalculated
    based on the new itinary. Economy tickets may be reissued to/from
    L-GLOB26/L-GLOB29/L-GLOB34.

3. oneworld Circle Trip Fare
  Para 16 - Rewording to clarify revalidation, increase penalty fee to
            USD125.00

  CHANGES BEFORE DEPARTURE
  ~~For ticket issue on/after 15AUG05~~
  - Unlimited changes to Date/Time/oneworld carrier permitted.
  - Date/Time/oneworld carrier changes are permitted without reissue
    provided origin/deatinaiton/connecting points and inventory remain
    the same.
  - Changes other than Date/Time/oneworld carrier permitted once at no
    charge. Ticket must be reissued.
  - Endorse ticket -Voluntary Change Actioned-.
    For subsequent routing changes other than Date/Time/oneworld carrier
    charge USD125.00. If currency convert the USD amount at the BSR.
                                                             
  CHANGES AFTER DEPARTURE
  ~~For ticket issue on/after 15AUG05~~
  - Date/Time/oneworld carrier changes permitted at no charge.
  - Date/Time/oneworld carrier changes are permitted without reissue
    provided origin/destination/connecting points and inventory remain
    the same.
  - Routing changes other than to Date/Time/oneworld carrier permitted
    at a charge of USD125.00 per transaction. If currency of country of
    oneworld circle origin is not USD convert the USD amount at the BSR.


PresRDC Aug 15, 2005 8:04 pm

As much I would want it to stay at $75, in comparison to other re-issue fees, it was under priced. $125 better reflects the amount of work that goes into a reissue.

JohnAx Aug 15, 2005 10:30 pm

From the star file snippet it would appear that the OWE changes apply to tickets purchased after 15 Aug.

christep Aug 15, 2005 11:37 pm


Originally Posted by JohnAx
From the star file snippet it would appear that the OWE changes apply to tickets purchased after 15 Aug.

Purchased or re-issued after that date as I read it.

wandering_fred Aug 16, 2005 12:31 am

The $125 is probably fair UNTIL you think about the AU$75 that QF is going to add on as their "agency" fee to make the changes.

The inclusion of MEL-PER in the restricted fare will be painful, but Adelaide does have a new terminal opening. (My current xONEx had MEL-PER, PER-MEL, PER-MEL, PER-SYD) Perhaps also why QF haven't added a PER-AKL flight to compete with AirNewZealand's daily non-stop. Might be too useful for the various OW fares..... especially for tickets purchased in SEAsia.

Surprised they didn't include PER-DRW in the restrictions as it is further than PER-MEL

Your opinions probably vary.

Happy wandering

WF

Mwenenzi Aug 16, 2005 1:12 am

New Rules
 
From a post by Christep

I have just updated my site at http://www.christen.demon.co.uk/CXRule/ with the latest version of the OneWorld ONE, GLOB, CircleTrip and CTP rules (and pricing) as published by CX for ticketing in Hong Kong, in Excel format. Note that the CTP version is from June 05 - I expect that a new one is imminent with an increased reissue fee.

Viajero Aug 16, 2005 5:07 am


Originally Posted by wandering_fred
...The inclusion of MEL-PER in the restricted fare will be painful,...

A lot more than just painful for me, since I both want and need to include PER in my SWP itins. :mad: :mad:



...but Adelaide does have a new terminal opening...
Do you know when? ADL airport has always been the low part of my Oz itins. A royal PITA, IMO, for transfers between domestic and international, poor international lounge with silly restricted access, etc.
Edited to add: got it, opening on Oct 8 & 9.



...(My current xONEx had MEL-PER, PER-MEL, PER-MEL, PER-SYD)
Now we know why QF added MEL-PER to the restricted list. :)

serfty Aug 16, 2005 5:38 am

I am still waiting for confirmation of ticketing for my 2300 QF SC's DONE4(money paid, go ahead given). In it I have MEL-PER-CNS-MEL which is no longer valid.

I have researched alternatives, MEL-PER-DRW-MEL has same SC's but flight times are sh•tty. MEL-DRW-CNS-MEL has 20 less SC's but times are better.

I am waiting for a nix and if it happens I already have an alternate DRW CNS route picked out.

Both give less frequent flyer points. :td:

JohnAx Aug 16, 2005 6:48 am


Originally Posted by serfty
I am still waiting for confirmation of ticketing for my 2300 QF SC's DONE4(money paid, go ahead given). In it I have MEL-PER-CNS-MEL which is no longer valid.

I have researched alternatives, MEL-PER-DRW-MEL has same SC's but flight times are sh•tty. MEL-DRW-CNS-MEL has 20 less SC's but times are better.

I am waiting for a nix and if it happens I already have an alternate DRW CNS route picked out.

Both give less frequent flyer points. :td:

If the airline got your money before the changes went into effect you should see a happy ending.

aisleorwindow Aug 16, 2005 2:22 pm

Currently helping my folks put together a DONE4. They were originally going to fly from Africa to SYD and then do SYD-BME-SYD.
If I understand these rules correctly, they will not be able to fly nonstop both ways to/from Broome. Is that correct?
If so, :td: :p

Dave Noble Aug 16, 2005 3:23 pm


Originally Posted by wandering_fred
The $125 is probably fair UNTIL you think about the AU$75 that QF is going to add on as their "agency" fee to make the changes.
WF

That is easily avoided though by not using QF to make changes.

Dave

Viajero Aug 16, 2005 3:26 pm


Originally Posted by g_leyser
Currently helping my folks put together a DONE4. They were originally going to fly from Africa to SYD and then do SYD-BME-SYD.
If I understand these rules correctly, they will not be able to fly nonstop both ways to/from Broome. Is that correct?
If so, :td: :p

Correct. SYD-BME-SYD is not allowed.

aisleorwindow Aug 16, 2005 3:53 pm


Originally Posted by Viajero
Correct. SYD-BME-SYD is not allowed.

Well that stinks. :td:

But, in theory, one could do SYD-BME and then BME-ASP-SYD on the return, right?

Darren Aug 16, 2005 4:57 pm

Stinky changes, but I suppose that goes without saying.

One question. On exception A, it says there is an exception to Joburg, Beijing, Shanghai, and "BOW". Where is BOW? According to IATA, it's somewhere in Florida. Any ideas of what city they are trying to refer to? Maybe Mumbai and they put BOW instead of BOM? (careless if so).


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