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TomT Jan 24, 2005 2:26 pm

Will this work?
 
Greetings;

We will be doing a DONE4 ex WAW starting in May This is our first RTW using FT guidence.Our goal is to use the DONE4 to get us as close as possiable to AA Ex. Plat in 2005. (!00,000 points)

Would someone be good enough to look over our plan and see if all is within the rules. Also and very important just how many points/miles we will earn. I don't want to be short at the end of the year!

Someone was good enough to check out a DONE4 for us starting from BKK by PM but, we are leaning toward WAW due to cost (Everything is X2)

Here is our DONE4 starting in WAW:

WAW-LHR-*AUH-LHR-LAX-*BOS-DFW-*ANC-DFW-*JFK-*SYD-*CNS-*MEL-*AKC-SYD-*HKG-*DPS-*HKG-*BKK-*LHR-WAW.

Using GC Mapper I come up with 57258 miles. (I am counting on gaining another 28629 points from AA Bus. bonus..?)

Questions :

Am I legal ?

Am I close with the miles and points?

Is there a better way to go? DPS is for the miles as example...I what to do AUH, BKK, ANC and the SWP all else is for miles and to get "there" The more points /miles I can rack up on the DONE4 the less I have to earn elsewhere.

When should I buy the tickets?

Anything else that I should be doing?

As I have said in another thread we have gone around the world two other times........before I found FT....we ended up with a total of 10,000 miles on Koren Air...used brokers...yes it was cheaper but not that much cheaper and not half the fun!! Since FT we are AAPlat. ,etc,etc..............Thanks to all once again......................

Unterwegs Jan 24, 2005 2:42 pm

Instead of doing US-Australia-Asia-Europe you could also do US-Asia-Australia-NoStopinAsia-Europe for a few extra miles.

Gardyloo Jan 24, 2005 4:57 pm

Yes, you will be at +/- 86K q-pts with that routing. If you go JFK-HKG, then do Asia, then SWP, finishing with MEL-LHR, I estimate you could add another 2-3,000 miles (x 1.5 q-pts) to get up to around 90K q-pts.

As for when to do it, the main seasonal issue will be ANC - June-Sept only (on AA metal). The rest will be up to you. As far as I can tell your itinerary is legal.

wideman Jan 24, 2005 4:59 pm

Looks like you've only got 5 NA segments, so you have one you can add. I'm sure there are plenty of ways to increase the mileage, but one simple solution is to go from BOS to DFW via SJU.

Only 3 Asian flights as well. if you could fly to Bali from one of QF's gateways, you could then add an extra Asian city (DPS-HKG-xxx-HKG-BKK).

christep Jan 24, 2005 5:52 pm


Originally Posted by wideman
Looks like you've only got 5 NA segments, so you have one you can add. {...} you could then add an extra Asian city.

Except that the itinerary is already at the 20 segment limit...

The itinerary looks OK to me (regardless of whether * means transit or stopover, and assuming that "AKC" means AKL).

TomT Jan 24, 2005 6:31 pm

Thanks.....
 
Hi:

I knew about not using up all my segements in one way, but, did hit the 20 cap.

On the whole then it would seem that I am close to the max. I can get out of this DONE4, I will play around with the suggestions given and see if there is any squeezing I can do.

* = Stopover......thought that was the way to show it and did not want to go hunt back to check it out. (lazy!)

It would seem that DFW-ANC-DFW starts right on 6/1/05.....so I hope to land a June 1 flight. I plan to do the DONE4 in two runs, May/June and Oct./Nov.

Welcome any second thoughts....and again thanks, :)

TomT Jan 24, 2005 6:43 pm

Question?
 

Originally Posted by Gardyloo
Yes, you will be at +/- 86K q-pts with that routing. If you go JFK-HKG, then do Asia, then SWP, finishing with MEL-LHR, I estimate you could add another 2-3,000 miles (x 1.5 q-pts) to get up to around 90K q-pts.

As for when to do it, the main seasonal issue will be ANC - June-Sept only (on AA metal). The rest will be up to you. As far as I can tell your itinerary is legal.

Your idea of JFK -Hkg never occur to me, I thoght for some reason that I had to do SWP first...............stepping stone thoghts I guess! I will play around with it, don't see why it would not work. I had HKG-DPS-HKG in there to just get the miles/points, been there done that so no lose.

Thanks :D

SanDiego1K Jan 24, 2005 6:48 pm

Be sure that you are only using 1.25 as your multiplier for any business sectors. For example, HKG-DPS-HKG is only available in biz (insofar as I know).

I set up a simple Excel spread sheet when I am doing my mileage and Q point calculation so that I am able to quickly see the impact of any changes.

TomT Jan 24, 2005 7:15 pm

SanDiego1K.....Question
 
Hi again:

Am I off base?

A DONE4, is all Bus. class correct? I thought I x the whole DONE4 by1.50 for my points.....not miles but points?

An example:

A Done4 = 60,000 miles but= 90,000 points. Thus if I am shooting for a goal of 100,000 points (AA Ex.Plat.) I am down 10,000 points after my DONE4???Yes/No (I know there is no maybe!!) :confused:

TomT Jan 24, 2005 7:24 pm

Back Again
 
Greetings again:

I played around with the idea of doing SWP second but to do it I come up with 21 segments................did i read some place that there is a possiablity of ending in a city other then your starting point.......if on same land mass??

If I could cut WAW out I would be within the 20 and would only lose 916 miles, the least on the whole DONE4.

To good to work???

SanDiego1K Jan 24, 2005 7:29 pm


Originally Posted by TomT
A DONE4, is all Bus. class correct? I thought I x the whole DONE4 by1.50 for my points.....not miles but points?

I am wrong. Ignore my post - please!

TomT Jan 24, 2005 7:51 pm

Very, very happy to!!!
 
I must say there was a bit of stress there! :rolleyes: Any comment on my question on ending my DONE4 in other then the city I started...see my post...

Thanks,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

christep Jan 24, 2005 8:03 pm

With a quick bit of fiddling around I came up with this routing, which seems to meet your requirements for the compulsory stops (although SWP is in a different order) and comes in at 62380 base miles.

WAW-LHR-AUH-LHR-SFO-BOS-DFW-ANC-DFW-JFK-HKG-BOM-BKK-HKG-AKL-MEL-PER-CNS-SYD-LHR-WAW

If you start in WAW you do have to finish in Poland.

Gardyloo Jan 24, 2005 8:56 pm


Originally Posted by christep
With a quick bit of fiddling around I came up with this routing, which seems to meet your requirements for the compulsory stops (although SWP is in a different order) and comes in at 62380 base miles.

WAW-LHR-AUH-LHR-SFO-BOS-DFW-ANC-DFW-JFK-HKG-BOM-BKK-HKG-AKL-MEL-PER-CNS-SYD-LHR-WAW

If you start in WAW you do have to finish in Poland.

LHR-SFO is operated by BA, toxic to the OP's quest for AA EXP.

OTOH Tom could go LHR-LAX-SJU-DFW-ANC-DFW-JFK in the US instead, which takes the total up to 63,754 mi for 95,631 q-pts. Hard to imagine one couldn't get the remaining 4369 q-pts just getting to and from WAW.

christep Jan 24, 2005 9:28 pm


Originally Posted by Gardyloo
LHR-SFO is operated by BA, toxic to the OP's quest for AA EXP.

OTOH Tom could go LHR-LAX-SJU-DFW-ANC-DFW-JFK in the US instead,

Good point. And I forgot about SJU since I tend to avoid it on AONE3s because it is Y/J, not Y/F which means less status miles on CX Marco Polo, but is OK on DONEx and AAdvantage.


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