Will this work?
 

Greetings;

We will be doing a DONE4 ex WAW starting in May This is our first RTW using FT guidence.Our goal is to use the DONE4 to get us as close as possiable to AA Ex. Plat in 2005. (!00,000 points)

Would someone be good enough to look over our plan and see if all is within the rules. Also and very important just how many points/miles we will earn. I don't want to be short at the end of the year!

Someone was good enough to check out a DONE4 for us starting from BKK by PM but, we are leaning toward WAW due to cost (Everything is X2)

Here is our DONE4 starting in WAW:

WAW-LHR-*AUH-LHR-LAX-*BOS-DFW-*ANC-DFW-*JFK-*SYD-*CNS-*MEL-*AKC-SYD-*HKG-*DPS-*HKG-*BKK-*LHR-WAW.

Using GC Mapper I come up with 57258 miles. (I am counting on gaining another 28629 points from AA Bus. bonus..?)

Questions :

Am I legal ?

Am I close with the miles and points?

Is there a better way to go? DPS is for the miles as example...I what to do AUH, BKK, ANC and the SWP all else is for miles and to get "there" The more points /miles I can rack up on the DONE4 the less I have to earn elsewhere.

When should I buy the tickets?

Anything else that I should be doing?

As I have said in another thread we have gone around the world two other times........before I found FT....we ended up with a total of 10,000 miles on Koren Air...used brokers...yes it was cheaper but not that much cheaper and not half the fun!! Since FT we are AAPlat. ,etc,etc..............Thanks to all once again......................

Instead of doing US-Australia-Asia-Europe you could also do US-Asia-Australia-NoStopinAsia-Europe for a few extra miles.

Yes, you will be at +/- 86K q-pts with that routing. If you go JFK-HKG, then do Asia, then SWP, finishing with MEL-LHR, I estimate you could add another 2-3,000 miles (x 1.5 q-pts) to get up to around 90K q-pts.

As for when to do it, the main seasonal issue will be ANC - June-Sept only (on AA metal). The rest will be up to you. As far as I can tell your itinerary is legal.

Looks like you've only got 5 NA segments, so you have one you can add. I'm sure there are plenty of ways to increase the mileage, but one simple solution is to go from BOS to DFW via SJU.

Only 3 Asian flights as well. if you could fly to Bali from one of QF's gateways, you could then add an extra Asian city (DPS-HKG-xxx-HKG-BKK).

Except that the itinerary is already at the 20 segment limit...

The itinerary looks OK to me (regardless of whether * means transit or stopover, and assuming that "AKC" means AKL).

Thanks.....
 

Hi:

I knew about not using up all my segements in one way, but, did hit the 20 cap.

On the whole then it would seem that I am close to the max. I can get out of this DONE4, I will play around with the suggestions given and see if there is any squeezing I can do.

* = Stopover......thought that was the way to show it and did not want to go hunt back to check it out. (lazy!)

It would seem that DFW-ANC-DFW starts right on 6/1/05.....so I hope to land a June 1 flight. I plan to do the DONE4 in two runs, May/June and Oct./Nov.

Welcome any second thoughts....and again thanks, :)

Question?
 

Your idea of JFK -Hkg never occur to me, I thoght for some reason that I had to do SWP first...............stepping stone thoghts I guess! I will play around with it, don't see why it would not work. I had HKG-DPS-HKG in there to just get the miles/points, been there done that so no lose.

Thanks :D

Be sure that you are only using 1.25 as your multiplier for any business sectors. For example, HKG-DPS-HKG is only available in biz (insofar as I know).

I set up a simple Excel spread sheet when I am doing my mileage and Q point calculation so that I am able to quickly see the impact of any changes.

SanDiego1K.....Question
 

Hi again:

Am I off base?

A DONE4, is all Bus. class correct? I thought I x the whole DONE4 by1.50 for my points.....not miles but points?

An example:

A Done4 = 60,000 miles but= 90,000 points. Thus if I am shooting for a goal of 100,000 points (AA Ex.Plat.) I am down 10,000 points after my DONE4???Yes/No (I know there is no maybe!!) :confused:

Back Again
 

Greetings again:

I played around with the idea of doing SWP second but to do it I come up with 21 segments................did i read some place that there is a possiablity of ending in a city other then your starting point.......if on same land mass??

If I could cut WAW out I would be within the 20 and would only lose 916 miles, the least on the whole DONE4.

To good to work???

I am wrong. Ignore my post - please!

Very, very happy to!!!
 

I must say there was a bit of stress there! :rolleyes: Any comment on my question on ending my DONE4 in other then the city I started...see my post...

Thanks,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

With a quick bit of fiddling around I came up with this routing, which seems to meet your requirements for the compulsory stops (although SWP is in a different order) and comes in at 62380 base miles.

WAW-LHR-AUH-LHR-SFO-BOS-DFW-ANC-DFW-JFK-HKG-BOM-BKK-HKG-AKL-MEL-PER-CNS-SYD-LHR-WAW

If you start in WAW you do have to finish in Poland.

LHR-SFO is operated by BA, toxic to the OP's quest for AA EXP.

OTOH Tom could go LHR-LAX-SJU-DFW-ANC-DFW-JFK in the US instead, which takes the total up to 63,754 mi for 95,631 q-pts. Hard to imagine one couldn't get the remaining 4369 q-pts just getting to and from WAW.

Good point. And I forgot about SJU since I tend to avoid it on AONE3s because it is Y/J, not Y/F which means less status miles on CX Marco Polo, but is OK on DONEx and AAdvantage.

"More food for thought"
 

Thanks again for the excellent feed back.....I never thought of SJU and Mrs T loves the idea (Know as throughing a bone!!)

I have reinvented the DONE4:

waw-lhr-auh-lax-sju-bos-dfw-anc-dfw-jfk-hkg-bom-bkk-hkg-akl-mel-cns-syd-lhr-waw = 62442 miles -/+....gives me the 20 segs. I might switch to dps instead of bom if I can go from dps to bkk without hkg getting its "hand out".

It would be 62442 vs 61899, Bali over BOM.............another bone for beloved wife. ^ ^

It would seem my next move is to contact AA RTW desk if all above looks good. I hope to have all flights outlined when I call, any other suggestions, this is my first shot so I am wide open for directions.Also I dread the phone contact so I what to have as many "ducks in row" as possiable. (I am hard of hearing , so much so that I have a "Service Dog" travel with me in N.A.but that is another thread!)

Again, thanks for the help,

TomT

I assume that you left out LHR as there is no direct flight from auh-lax otherwise everyone would take that loooong flight. Be aware that mel-cns is Y only on QF (when I checked last year), so you will only get 1.0 q-pts on AA as they will book it into L class. Many, but not all, flights cns-syd have Y only service. And don't be too obsessive with making EXP on 1 itinerary. If you get all but the last few q-points, an extra trip on AA won't be hard on you.

The AA RTW staff are very good in most cases, so don't worry about that.

You can't unfortunately. The only simple switch would be to do CMB instead of BOM. I would very definitely recommend Sri Lanka as a place to spend a few days - I had a great holiday a little while ago up in the hill country round Kandy.

More adjusting thoughts
 

Greetings again:

I had thought about CMB...so if dps is out except with a run through HKg I think we will do that.

I agree with not trying to do all through one DONE4, just want to get as close as possiable. We are hitting all the spots we want to AUH,SWP, BKK and HKG...with London for a show or so for MRs T. All else is to add the miles/points.

We have made one "run" this year and I do mean run, we got out of Boston just before the white stuff really hit the fan.We are also thinking of going to HNL in March....plus if we only do that one trip to HNL we still have BOS-LHR-WAW-LHR-BOS getting to the DONE4 and return. So I think we will have close to 15,000/17,000 miles/points going into the DONE4

What I am shooting for is to gain EXPLat mid trip SYD-LHR......would be fun breaking out the wine in mid air to celerbrate!!!

Thanks............to all................. :)

Results so far.........
 

Greetings once again:

Well thanks to all out "there" I have called AA RTW desk and found them to be even better then I hoped....they worked around my lack of hearing and helped me to come up with the following:

waw-lhr-auh-lhr-lax-bos-dfw-anc-dfw-bos-overland-jfk-hkg-cmb-bkk-hkg-syd-cns-mel-akl-syd-lhr-waw

I pick my DONE4 up in waw in May....Right now the cost is suppose to be $5000.00+tax at waw.

I plan to recheck all the FT info on waw and buying the ticket.

Needless to say as so many before me have stated "I could not have done it without FT" I hope I can pass something baqck down the road.

Again, thanks to all,

TomT :)

How about this?
 

I'm a first timer on *ONE*. I live in the UK and I'm consdiering flying ex-CAI. Been reading this forum and gained loads of info. However, I would like to ensure that I got it right.

Would appreciate feedback on the legiablity of this itenerary:
22 March-18 April:
CAI-LHR-HKG-MEL // MEL-SYD // SYD-CHC // CHC-AKL // AKL-SCL // SCL-LIM // LIM-EZE // EZE-LHR

Stop-over in LHR for 6 months then resume
1-24 November
LHR-BAH // BAH-HKG // HKG-ICN // ICN-TPE // TPE-NRT // NRT-LHR

If a stop-over is doable, I would break the trip and fly back to CAI for a long weekend. If not, I would have to take it as NRT-LHR-CAI.

Cheers...

Tom, unless you have a reason to go to AUH, I would do DXB instead for several reasons. First, immigration is easier and quicker. They are less likely to hassle you. Second, AUH is a dump. It looks like it was built in the 1960's and for all I know it was. Third, the lounge isnt as good. Finally, you have two flights a day instead of only one and the AUH continues on to MCT. So if you have a delay in MCT then you will be delayed as well. The day LHR-DXB flight is actually a really night flight, especially if you happen to get a 747.

No, this breaks the rules - you can't leave or enter a continent more than once, with a few specific exceptions, e.g. transiting through Asia to/from SWP, or through N. America to/from S. America. In your case you leave Europe LHR-HKG and then again BAH-HKG. No can do.

Makes sense .................
 

Greetings:

The AUH run was just for the miles/points and the fact that we only had been there transit once. DXB has a *WOOD so I see no reason not to do DXB since you recommended it...( A great example of FT help!!!) Thanks, and if you have any more "tid bits" they would be welcome.

Thanks for the tip.

I've revised it to:
CAI-LHR-HKG | HKG-MEL | MEL-SYD | SYD-CHC | CHC-AKL | AKL-SYD-BKK | BKK-LHR | LHR-HEL | HEL-LHR | LHR-BAH

Should work.. huh?

Nope. After AKL-SYD you have to keep going RTW; you cannot return to Europe via Asia.

Hi TomT. I write to you from the 4 points in Bur Dubai. I am finishing off an old AONE6 (pre 15 Apr 2003 rules) sniff sniff. The 4 points is perfectly adequate for me for 3000 SPG points per night. I stayed here about 6 months ago and internet access was a problem. This time, they upgraded me to an Executive floor, which has a pc and broadband. They are currently upgrading the whole hotel to wireless, which they say should be done "in 2 or 3 days".
I have also stayed at the Hilton here, which was very nice.
FYI I walked out of the terminal building straight to the taxi queue. No hassle taxi trip to the 4 points (talked cricket with the Indian driver the whole trip) cost US$8.50.
I have not visited AUH or MCT, but if you have not been to the ME before, and you are just doing a ONE MR, I would recommend DXB. YMMV.

Happy travels. John

Aside from backtracking thru Asia, It is still not a valid xONEx as you need to "cross" both the Pacific and the Atlantic Oceans. This means flight segments via North and/or South America are mandatory.

I agree with Viajero. Any rtw that includes SWP is a minimum of 4 continents. You only have 3 and aren't crossing the atlantic and pacific oceans as required by the rules.

JohnSdy2000
 

Hi there:

Thanks for the infomation....can never have enough !