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-   -   Oneworld premium class bargains and unorthodox routes! (https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/oneworld/314078-oneworld-premium-class-bargains-unorthodox-routes.html)

flamboyant 1 Apr 17, 2004 8:04 am
Oneworld premium class bargains and unorthodox routes!
 
Hi,

which origin is the best deal for Oneworld RTWs in C/F ? Which origin is the cheapest in Europe ?

Are there any great F fares from CAI or South Africa or Zimbabwe to e.g. Southeast Asia ?


Which flights operated by oneworld carriers exist where the carriers make use of fifth freedom rights ?

I am looking for something like:
BA: JNB-CPT
QF: LHR-BKK
CX: JFK-YVR

Thanks!

techgirl Apr 17, 2004 8:10 am
Awww geez! :(

Your thread title got me all excited... but it turns out you are ASKING whether there are any bargains or great routes. That tricky exclamation point had me thinking you had found some. :mad:

flamboyant 1 Apr 17, 2004 8:19 am
I am sorry for the confusion techgirl, however the trick will increase traffic and hopefully lead to the wanted responses ;)!

Swanhunter Apr 19, 2004 2:55 pm
BA have a whole chunk of franchise flights within Africa. I don't have a route map to hand but there are flights from NBO and S Africa to a range of other African countries.

There is also BAH - DOH, AUH - MCT and EZE - GRU on mainline flights.

Sorry, no help on RTW bargains. ;)

flamboyant 1 Apr 19, 2004 2:59 pm
This thread has so far been viewed often, but the constructive replies are very rare, unfortunately...:(

number_6 Apr 19, 2004 6:28 pm
FRA-MAD LA 705 (a rare F flight within Europe).

ajnaro Apr 19, 2004 6:42 pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by number_6
FRA-MAD LA 705 (a rare F flight within Europe).
As far as I know, LA has only four seats in its first class. I've been trying to get on their SYD/AKL without much luck.

PresRDC Apr 20, 2004 11:31 am
Quote:
Originally Posted by ajnaro
As far as I know, LA has only four seats in its first class. I've been trying to get on their SYD/AKL without much luck.
Actually, they have 5 seats in a single row, arranged 2x1x2.

Have you tried getting a seat using the QF codeshare? For OWE purposes, I have had mich better success getting LAN F seats under ther QF or AA codeshare flight number.

In addition to MAD-FRA-MAD, LAN also operates AKL-SYD-AKL.

daniellam Apr 20, 2004 1:36 pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by flamboyant 1
Hi,

which origin is the best deal for Oneworld RTWs in C/F ? Which origin is the cheapest in Europe ?

Are there any great F fares from CAI or South Africa or Zimbabwe to e.g. Southeast Asia ?


Which flights operated by oneworld carriers exist where the carriers make use of fifth freedom rights ?

I am looking for something like:
BA: JNB-CPT
QF: LHR-BKK
CX: JFK-YVR

Thanks!
The F fare JFK-YVR on CX ain't cheap! Expect to pay at least USD 5000+ round trip.

Other routes:

CX: BKK-SIN
CX: DXB-BAH, BKK-BOM-DXB etc.
AY: was it BKK-HKG? or SIN-HKG? don't remember

hauteboy Apr 20, 2004 11:47 pm
Here are some interesting flights (not sure of traffic rights on all these):
AA MVD-EZE
AA ASU-GRU
AA LPB-VVI
AA CNF-GRU
AA SXM-SDQ
AA CIW-BGI
AA ANU-SDQ

AY BKK-SIN/HKG
AY ARN-OSL
AY GOT-CPH
AY ARN-MAD/BGO/MAN/YYZ

BA BKK/SIN-SYD
BA SIN-MEL
BA NBO-SEZ/LLW
BA AUH-MCT
BA DOH-BAH
BA GRU-GIG/EZE
BA BOG-CCS
BA NAS-PLS/GCM
BA IAH-ORD
BA ANU-UVF/GND/TAB
BA JNB-HRE/DUR/PLZ/WDH/VFA/LVI/CPT/NBO
BA CPT-DUR
BA BEY-AMM/DAM
BA AMM-KRT
BA DAM-ALP
BA ALY/HBE-ADD
BA EVN-TAS
BA BAK-FRU/ALA
BA SVX-ALA
BA NBO-JIB/KRT/ASM
BA ASM-JIB/KRT
BA LUN-HRE/NBO

CX BNE-CNS
CX ADL-MEL
CX TPE-ICN/KIX/NRT/FUK/NGO/
CX BKK-CMB/KHI/SIN/BOM
CX SIN-CMB/CGK/BKK
CX PEN-KUL
CX DXB-BAH/BOM
CX BAH-RUH
CX YVR/JFK-YYZ

IB CUN/GUA/SAP/SAL/PTY/MGA/SJO-MIA
IB SDQ-SJU
IB UIO-GYE

LA ROS-COR
LA LIM-JFK/LAX
LA UIO-GYE
LA CCS-MIA/LIM
LA GYE-CCS
LA MIA/LIM-BOG
LA BOG-GYE
LA CUN-MIA/HAV
LA MAD-FRA
LA GIG-GRU
LA SYD-AKL
LA MPN-RGL

QF BKK-LHR
QF SIN-FRA/LHR/CDG
QF AKL-LAX
QF LAX-JFK
QF ATH-SIN (Returning from Olympics, August!)

virtualtroy Apr 21, 2004 12:36 am
Add to the AA list PEK-PVG

TerryK Apr 21, 2004 6:41 am
AA doesn't fly to China
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by virtualtroy
Add to the AA list PEK-PVG
AA flies to neither, let along in between them. That's just a codeshare, not Fifth Freedom flight.

flamboyant 1 Apr 21, 2004 7:34 am
Thank you!
 
Cool list, that is what I was looking for!!! :)

virtualtroy Apr 21, 2004 12:34 pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by TerryK
AA flies to neither, let along in between them. That's just a codeshare, not Fifth Freedom flight.

Forgive my ignorance, but what is a Fifth Freedom flight?

jerry a. laska Apr 21, 2004 1:25 pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by virtualtroy
Forgive my ignorance, but what is a Fifth Freedom flight?
Quote:
freedom rights. A set of guiding principles governing air-service rights under international agreements. The seven freedom rights are: 1. The right to overfly another country. 2. The right to land in another country. 3. The right to carry revenue traffic to another country. 4. The right to carry revenue traffic from another country. 5. The right to carry revenue traffic between two foreign countries. 6. The right to use one's own country as a transit point when exercising other freedom rights. 7. Cabotage. (qv).
http://hometravelagency.com/dictionary/ltrf.html


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