That is ideally the way to go, using a TA and booking the codeshares you want. I don't understand why there's so much hesitation in using a TA... Yes, there's a fee involved but it's not a big ask. Fee would be outweighed by savings in surcharges.

Are you able to recommend a TA? Or should I just go to Amex Platinum Travel? Thank you.

We used Trailfinders and found them excellent.

nufnuf77 is brilliant and works for Propeller Travel. I understand he recently helped golfmad book his famous two trips around the world.

There's also this post:
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/36134450-post1.html

Interestingly... On an AA ticketed DGLOB34, I was awarded Distance Based TPs for an AA leg (AA marketed & operated)

Given AA issued the ticket, and charged me directly, they definitely know the value is this segment.

An earlier BA segment on the same ticket got Spend based TPs

Still waiting on the EI/JL and soon to fly QR legs to post, but I was pleasantly surprised to see AA land a few hundred extra.

Were the Avios distance-based?

Yes

Was the AA leg connecting to/from another OW carrier (not BA/IB) on the same day/trip?

I have seen AA marketed/operated flight credit to AA as distance based in this scenario HND-DFW (JL) connecting to DFW-RNO (AA).

Yeah it was, AA domestic connecting into JAL.

Interesting loophole here, and definitely opens up some more creative routes for TP/Avios optimisation on these tickets. I had only put a single short AA leg in there to trigger booking eligibility on AA.

That's a big assumption.. BA rules say that AA marketed should post as revenue, not distance based.. but YMMV.

I am definitely curious about the AA segments posting as distance based and there doesnt seem to be hard rule on it.

I am looking at doing the usual

TYO-DEL-HKG-JFK-LAX-DOH-LHR-DXB-LHR-HKG-SIN-TYO just for fun in D and need the CX segments marketed by AA (cx pitiful 25% earning doesnt appeal. do you guys have any more observations on the distance on AA marketed flights?

I would not book a RTW ticket based on the assumption that AA would post as distance based instead of revenue based.
If you need a transpacific AA marketed segment, I would suggest TYO-HNL AA marketed JL operated.
from there, you could do hnl-sea-anc-lax-doh-lhr-doh-ams-doh-sel-hkg-del-tyo. Maximize AS in domestic US and QR

My last AA flights (DFW-HNL) on a DONE4, 9 April, posted as:
Total GBP Eligible Spend: GBP465.xx
But the tier points posted on distance based (1867 nTPs / 4191 Avios)

This was booked via the AA RTW ticket desk, in November 2024, so before the big announcement. Good luck in working out which way these post, my next bunch of AA marketed flights aren't going to be for a while anyway (as you say, much better than raw CX earning)

You can pick up a couple of hundred miles by replacing DOH-LHR-DXB-LHR with DOH-DUB-DOH-LHR.

Based upon the above, would an int'l transit of less than 24 hours cause the AA flight to be distance earning for nTP's?

I'm thinking that a LHR/CDG connection onto an AA flight from QR/AY could work.

And is it a given that AA/BA/IB flights are nTP earning based upon revenue? The prior examples had avios earned based upon spend while TP's were distance based earnings.

how did the ticket get mangled?

Can you explain how to mangle a ticket to get distance based earning?

Hi all

So i have been workign with NafNaf77 on rtw flights (have booked 3 so far). And i can highty recommend. I am GFL so my challange is not to maximise nTPs on a RTW ticket but how to max BA earned nTPs to keep GGL. I typically take 4or5 RTW tickets a year but if based on spend alone my BA flight earned ntp will not be high enough, to retain GGL.

Has anyone had any experience of getting BA segments of DONEX flights nTPs credited according to distance rather than fare? if so how (feel free to DM if you prefer)

If your question is about BAC ffp better to ask/look in the BA forum.
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I just very recently read that BA-coded flights operated by other airlines on a oneworld RTW ticket can earn distance-based TP rather than spend-based. However, reviewing my flights from the past year (since April), all the RTWs issued NOT by BA, some segments earned distance-based while some were spend-based. Any idea why the difference?

Does it depend on whether the flights were taken right after the first issuance of the RTW (hence clearer spend?) vs reissuance later obscure the fare details, triggering distance-based earning for subsequent flights?

Without concrete examples, it's impossible to weigh in here.

Look and ask here -- https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/brit...questions.html
From what I read is hard~impossible to predict

As a regular DONEx user, and a BA creditor of said TPs I would observe that, at least on AA and BA coded flights (including when there are IRROPs) issued by the AA RTW desk, we now have full transparency of pricing in 9/10 cases, which isn't very good for nTP earnings. The only real way to boost your numbers from RTW tickets is to book on QR and JL. However be aware that it doesn't always work out that well. See below for my ill-fated Christmas trip disturbed by first weather in JFK and then the Venezuela military operation:

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...2d102598f6.png
Analysis of a recent RTW set of flights with BA crediting.

With the IRROPs occurring around the AA flights, that meant I didn't get my QR flights, even with the "new" routes, in the old system I'd have been 40% of the way towards Gold, in the new system its less than 20%

A data point would like to share on BA earnings with DONE4, and happy to discuss particularly on the AA domestic sectors
Wasn't expecting both AA coded and operated domestic flights to earn with distance-based instead on revenue-based. Understood the earnings with AA vary from ticket to ticket. Ticket was issued by CX and made roughtly 8 changes on the flight date from time to time so far i started my first sector. HND-DFW-JFK-LAX-DOH are basically considered as "transit" given I booked everything to connect within 24hours, but not sure if that's the reason(if so it would be rather interesting).

Lastly, both AA flights get credited to my BA account roughly one day after the flight, and the QR LAX-DOH even gets credit while I'm mid-way to DOH :p , which i consider that's the fastest earning even happend to me

My routing is
OSL-DOH (AY code operated by QR)
DOH-AKL (AY code operated by QR)
AKL-SYD (QF code operated by QF)
SYD-HKG (AY code operated by CX)
HKG-SIN (CX code operated by CX)
SIN-HND (JL code operated by JL)
HND-BKK (JL code operated by JL)
BKK-HND (JL code operated by JL)
HND-DFW (JL code operated by JL)
DFW-JFK (AA code operated by AA)
JFK-LAX (AA code operated by AA)
LAX-DOH (QR code operated by QR)
DOH-DUB (QR code operated by QR)
DUB-DOH (QR code operated by QR)
DOH-OSL(QR code operated by QR)

So how many tier points did you get on each segment? We're they all distance based? At the rate of the marketing or operating airline? It's not very clear. Thanks!

Except for the last three sectors, which will only travel in mid-June, the rest are all credited as distance-based on the rate of the marketing carrier.
As long as marketing and operating carrier is not involving BA/AA/IB, I would say flight calculation from BA provides accurate numbers.

Have finally coughed-up for a D class RTW fare :
TYO AY X/HEL AY LON AA(BA) X/LAX QF BNE QF CHC//AKL CX HKG CX CGK JL TYO

I have Basic membership of AY & BA schemes & use BA-AX card for spending to accrue Avios. I’m not wildly interested in Status, which Membership will generate the most Avios please?

Thanks. For me the critical point is that the following were credited by distance:
DFW-JFK (AA code operated by AA)
JFK-LAX (AA code operated by AA)

Can you confirm that you got 50% distance on those?

This would be consistent with my experience, getting 50% of distance flying LCA-LHR on BA on a DONE3 issued by JL. I am now on a CX-issued RTW but so far haven't tested AA or BA segments, and the previous comment made me a bit concerned, since I'm down to the wire in terms of requalifying as BA Gold.

Got 696 nTP(5217 avios earned) for DFW-JFK and 1231nTP(9230 avios earned) for JFK-LAX, so its 50% of the actual flying distance and avios earning is roughly 375% as a BA gold, not sure if that's also due to a transit from a JL flight beforehand.

I found AA's earnings on BA's new earnings scale could be hard to predict on such occasions; probably this could also happen to BA/IB coded and operating flights as well. Might still avoid BA/AA/IB flights as much as i could in furture RTW ticket even its issued by non-BA/AA/IB

Many thanks - this is useful. I think the key thing here is still visibility of fare by issuing airline, so hopefully I should be good with a few more segments on AA/BA on my current RTW. I'm seriously considering switching to AY after requalifying as it seems more predictable.

I can confirm BA can see the fare paid on JL issued RTW tickets. but once changes start piling in VOL+INVOL the fare gets obscured enough that system will pick up the distance for AA/BA/IB sectors. there is no guarantee when this happens - but on my own AONE3 my ba segments earned spend on new + 1st reissue and after 2nd reissue started earning distance based

Any experience on how TPs work with RTWs booked with BA?

But presumably JL segments on JL issued RTWs are still distance based?

Way off topic
Look and ask here in the dedicated BA thread-- https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/brit...questions.html
From what I read is hard~impossible to predict

I'm 4 segments in to a DONE3 and the BA calculator has been spot on for estimating predicted earn from QR, JL & AY in D class.

A comment best placed in the dedicated BA thread-- https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/brit...questions.html