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danwer930 Mar 29, 2022 3:26 pm

BA lounge access at JFK - flying AS
 
Hi all,

I’m a OW Emerald flying out of JFK soon on Alaska (economy ticket). 5 PM flight. Am I permitted to use the BA First lounge in T7 on this trip?

thanks!

ernestnywang Mar 30, 2022 11:17 am


Originally Posted by danwer930 (Post 34118468)
Hi all,

I’m a OW Emerald flying out of JFK soon on Alaska (economy ticket). 5 PM flight. Am I permitted to use the BA First lounge in T7 on this trip?

thanks!

If your Emerald status is via AA or AS, only if there is another flight following your AS flight that takes you somewhere outside of US, Canada, Mexico (except Mexico City), the Bahamas, Bermuda and the Caribbean. Otherwise, yes. Please be aware BA could cite capaacity issue and deny you.

danwer930 Mar 30, 2022 11:41 am


Originally Posted by ernestnywang (Post 34121044)
If your Emerald status is via AA or AS, only if there is another flight following your AS flight that takes you somewhere outside of US, Canada, Mexico (except Mexico City), the Bahamas, Bermuda and the Caribbean. Otherwise, yes. Please be aware BA could cite capaacity issue and deny you.

Thanks for this. It's a domestic flight and my status is through AA, so it sounds like I would not be able to use the lounge. For some reason I thought the "international flights only" rule only applied to using AA and AS lounges. Appreciate the info!

Visconti Mar 30, 2022 11:46 am


Originally Posted by danwer930 (Post 34121119)
Thanks for this. It's a domestic flight and my status is through AA, so it sounds like I would not be able to use the lounge. For some reason I thought the "international flights only" rule only applied to using AA and AS lounges. Appreciate the info!

Yeah, OWE lounge access is pretty nuanced and earnestnywang is right when he observes it's sometimes on the whim of the lounge dragon. For instance, if one is a OWE from, say, CX, then this pax can frequent ACs & AS (should anyway, but I'm not sure AS staff is...er...up to speed on this) absent any restrictions (no int'l qualifier) other than being on an OW flight. Contrast that with AA/AS OWE where access to lounges--even their own--are only upon flights to or connecting (on OW carrier) to an int'l destination within a certain time frame or arriving on int'l and connecting to OW domestic destination.

It's complex and nuanced enough that each lounge and even each Dragon(ness) has his/her own interpretations of the rule.

ron187 Apr 18, 2022 12:51 pm

I'm in a similar situation, but my one world status is through Royal Air Maroc. I know I'm eligible by letter of the law to access the BA lounge at JFK T7 or the BA lounge at IAD on domestic only itineraries, but in practice does anyone know if the lounge dragons at BA lounges follow oneworld rules?

(I've always been fine accessing AA flagship lounges and the oneworld lounge at LAX on domestic flights, but never tried BA)

danwer930 Jul 20, 2022 12:39 pm

Thanks for this. Is it any different if I'm in F on Alaska?

jerry a. laska Jul 20, 2022 3:18 pm


Originally Posted by danwer930 (Post 34442887)
Thanks for this. Is it any different if I'm in F on Alaska?

If you are flying F on AS then you can access the AS lounge; still no access to the BA lounge if your status is through AA as you stated earlier.

From as.com:

  • Passengers traveling on a paid First Class or a First Class award ticket* on flights operated by Alaska Airlines have access to Alaska Lounge locations only on their day of flight. These fares do not include entrance for family or guests not traveling in First Class. These fares also do not include entrance agreements into other airline clubrooms. To access the Alaska Lounge, passengers must show their same-day First Class boarding pass to the Alaska Lounge Staff. Passengers upgraded to First Class, (booked in U class of service) whether complimentary, paid, or using miles do not have complimentary access to the Alaska Lounge.
*applies to fares booked in C, D, E, J, or I class.


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