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dragonman Oct 22, 2018 7:42 am

qatar flights disappearing from DONE 4
 
Just checked my AA booked DONE 4 and all the Qatar flights have disappeared. Checked on AA website and Qatar website. On a very long wait to the AA RTW desk at the moment. Has this happened to anyone else?

allset2travel Oct 22, 2018 12:15 pm


Originally Posted by dragonman (Post 30342558)
Just checked my AA booked DONE 4 and all the Qatar flights have disappeared. Checked on AA website and Qatar website. On a very long wait to the AA RTW desk at the moment. Has this happened to anyone else?

I don't think you should be too concern. It could be a system glitch (or update on the source). Check back later you'd probably find everything ok. Hold on to your Record Locator (or confirmation booking code).
Last resort, still call the AA RTW desk.

dragonman Oct 22, 2018 2:26 pm


Originally Posted by allset2travel (Post 30343579)
I don't think you should be too concern. It could be a system glitch (or update on the source). Check back later you'd probably find everything ok. Hold on to your Record Locator (or confirmation booking code).
Last resort, still call the AA RTW desk.

Well it turns out this was no system glitch. Qatar airlines simply canceled all my Qatar flights. They decided the done4 was not ticketed. It was, in July.

The flights were restored by the AA person. I could have turned up at LHR in January and It would have been a nightmare.

henry999 Oct 22, 2018 3:48 pm


Originally Posted by dragonman (Post 30344120)
Well it turns out this was no system glitch. Qatar airlines simply canceled all my Qatar flights. They decided the done4 was not ticketed. It was, in July.

The flights were restored by the AA person. I could have turned up at LHR in January and It would have been a nightmare.

Interesting. After your OP, I checked our AA-ticketed DONE4 which has two remaining segments, in December, both on QR. Both appeared in the system, as per normal, nothing to see here folks ...

So, who knows what went wrong with your booking? but, thank luck, it's all fixed now.

dragonman Oct 27, 2018 5:24 am

Amazingly this is happened again. Only this time three of the four Qatar legs have disappeared instead of all four. I’m beginning to believe someone at Qatar Airlines does not like me.

pbd456 Oct 28, 2018 9:40 am

Could it be due to married sector logic?

cphurley Oct 28, 2018 10:25 am


Originally Posted by dragonman (Post 30361785)
Amazingly this is happened again. Only this time three of the four Qatar legs have disappeared instead of all four. I’m beginning to believe someone at Qatar Airlines does not like me.

This happened to me several times with QR flights in a AA ticketed DONEX, including one time 1-day before the QR flight where there were now no business class seats available. Thankfully, the AA team were able to work with QR and get my wife and I on our originally booked flights. I'm not sure how or why but I'd caution anyone/everyone to double check QR flights, especially with AA plated tickets. I don't have enough exerience to know whether the issue exists outside of the AA ticketed / QR flight combo, but it happened 3 of the last 3 DONEs.

dragonman Oct 28, 2018 3:33 pm

Precisely what I feared. I guess there is some solace in knowing it’s not just me it’s happened to.

serfty Oct 28, 2018 4:24 pm


Originally Posted by pbd456 (Post 30365315)
Could it be due to married sector logic?

Unlikely; "Married Segment" logic influences availability on booking, not once ticketed.

allset2travel Oct 28, 2018 10:14 pm

Just a data point:
My currently in progress DONE3 was ticketed by CX. Among the remaining segments, of which 3 are QR flights. My record is still intact. All QR segments are showing in AA, CX, JL, QR, MH web sites.

Dr. HFH Oct 29, 2018 8:36 pm

Just checked the remaining flights on my current itinerary as well as the two I haven't started yet. Nothing missing.

anabolism Oct 30, 2018 9:14 am

I don't think this is specific to QR, or that QR has anything against certain flyers. My guess is that it's a glitch stemming from an itinerary booked and ticketed in one GDS (such as Sabre, used by AA) not correctly propagating ticket numbers to a separate GDS (such as Amadeus, used by QR, QF, CX, BA, etc.) used by the airline operating the flights. I've had this happen on AA-issued xONEx with QF flights. In my experience, the most likely trigger is when a change is made, causing the tickets to be reissued, and the new ticket numbers don't get correctly transmitted to the operating airline's system.

If you want to be extra-safe, after an itinerary is ticketed or a change is made and the tickets are reissued, call any airlines with flights on the booking and ask them to verify that they see the itinerary as ticketed. If they do, you are fine. If they don't, call the issuing airline and have them resend the ticket numbers.

dragonman Oct 30, 2018 2:32 pm

That is great advice. Thanks.

skunker Oct 31, 2018 9:48 pm


Originally Posted by anabolism (Post 30372950)
I don't think this is specific to QR, or that QR has anything against certain flyers. My guess is that it's a glitch stemming from an itinerary booked and ticketed in one GDS (such as Sabre, used by AA) not correctly propagating ticket numbers to a separate GDS (such as Amadeus, used by QR, QF, CX, BA, etc.) used by the airline operating the flights. I've had this happen on AA-issued xONEx with QF flights. In my experience, the most likely trigger is when a change is made, causing the tickets to be reissued, and the new ticket numbers don't get correctly transmitted to the operating airline's system.

If you want to be extra-safe, after an itinerary is ticketed or a change is made and the tickets are reissued, call any airlines with flights on the booking and ask them to verify that they see the itinerary as ticketed. If they do, you are fine. If they don't, call the issuing airline and have them resend the ticket numbers.

Yup, I had this happen on an AA award that included QR segments. I made a change in routing about a month out. Everything looked good until I showed up in MIA and they wouldn't let me board. The GA spent the next 20 minutes on the phone with AA getting them to re-issue and re-ticket the remaining segments of the trip. Ended up being the last person on the plane.

Calchas Nov 3, 2018 1:36 pm

oneworld circle PNRs are supposed to have an OSI message in them suppressing the autocancellation

But it probably doesn’t work.

In any event check in would not be possible if the PNR no longer had a reference to a ticket coupon that was open for use


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