Hey, the questions is: Which OW Airline FF program doesn't have a requirement of certain number of flights on their metal?
I now decided to ditch QR Privilege Club for many reasons. And now looking for a good FF program where I can credit my upcoming flights.
I'm flying mainly QR in J and Y, and also some BA flights yearly. If I switch now for BA EC i will be Gold (OWE) there by the end of November. BAEC is very generous with Tier Points if you're flying in J, but when flying in Y it's not so easy to get status as it was in QRPC. I don't know if the next year will be so good for me in terms of J flights, that's why I also look for some other opportunities. Checking all the websites of OW airlines FF programs, but all of them seem to require me to fly a certain number of segments on their metal in addition to getting Tier Points (basically 4 for OWS/OWE). I already excluded AY program as this one requires way for miles for status than BA or QR.
Any thoughts? Thanks

Is the real question about flight number(marketed) or operated (metal)?

The required mix of marketed and/or operated depends for status depends on the ffp.

Thanks for answer. I know it's the marketed/operated that matters. However I'm not going to take short-haul BA flights on e.g. MH number
So to rephrase my question:
Is there a FF program that doesn't have a requirement of certain number of "eligible flights" on top of accumulating tier points, i.e. in which program can you reach the OWE status just by tier points? :-)

BA--->https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/brit...8-edition.html
Refer post 4 & 5
But check the BA web site and check the fare booking class and earnings

Does vary by ffp
For example you can earn QF status without ever flying QF metal

Yeah, I know, but there is still a "Minimum flights rule" which says: (https://www.qantas.com/us/en/frequen...onditions.html)

So it doesn't answers my question Not many flights to/from Warsaw are marketed by QF, so my options are really limited. That's why I'm looking for a OW FF program without any rule concerning eligible flights: neither "operated by" nor "marketed by".

But with QF you can fly QF marketed on a range of operating airlines and still get QF status. But QF is not a good ffp:- just an example. QF ffp is not for you.

If you want on airlines that fly from Poland that makes it harder. BA may be the only option.

Look at AA and read about the "operated by" nor "marketed by". AA took away the 4 AA flight rule a few years ago.

The required mix of marketed and/or operated for status depends on the ffp.

CX doesn't require you to fly their metal to gain the next tier, but that comes at a cost. Like BA, CX uses a Tier Point System (or in this case, Club Points). You are awarded less tier points flying on non-CX OW partners, and in some cases, it could be significant. For instance, flying BA F LHR-HKG earns less CPs than flying CX discounted J.

Also, I should add that they charge USD100 for membership.

AA does not

To add, as far as I know, AY+ does not require flying on Finnair metal as well

Thank you all for the answers! It's been very helpful.

I must then run it through my Excel calculator looking what can I achieve for my planned flights for 2018. Flying mainly in discounted J on QR (i.e. R-class) I will get OWE on BAEC in October starting from zero now. I must compare it to CX, but guessing from what you say I'm not gonna find my luck there...

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So I did the calculations with this calculator: https://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_...ub-points.html and it won't be the program of my choice. However it's still better than AY+. By the time I reach OWE at BAEC I would be here 20 points short of OWS.... However, it's written:
"The chart below indicates the number of club points required within a membership year to renew or upgrade tiers within a membership year. In addition to these points, the member must fly at least one eligible sector on Cathay Pacific or Cathay Dragon."
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I know, but I really cannot understand their EQD / EQM system.... I rarely fly AA / or on AA ticket, so I wouldn't then get any EQD's.... I really regret they don't have an official miles calculator as BA, AY or QR have which would allow me to type in the routing, the carrier and booking class.... I was really looking for AA program but gave up at the stage of EQD.

That I know, but when I calculated my planned flights for 2018, by the time I would be OWE at BAEC I would be only half-way between OWR and OWS in AY+.... They're not to generous with tier points tbh.


So I guess I would stick with the BAEC. Opening account tomorrow would make me OWE in October, and by the end of the year I should be half-way to GGL, so I guess it's worth trying. Then I will have to change my habits and instead of flying to Asia on QR will need to switch to BA to make use of the benefits. CCR is really tempting. However I really prefer the inflight product of QR, especially now with Q Suites....

Thanks all for the contribution and help :-) I really appreciate!!

if you fly QR R ticket, to become oneworld emerald, you would need to fly 66666 flown miles in R class. and you would earn 20% of 66666 flowm miles of EQD which is over 12k.

you can fly a lot less for BA emerald, but you would need 1) 4 sectors on BA.

AA emerald has better benefits than BA emerald for the most part. 1) bonus miles on QR which BA does not give. systemwide upgrade from Y to J. (BA gives GUF 2 but it is Y to PE or PE to J).

But AA doesn't give lounge access on AA Dom itineraries which might be important if you fly to the US a lot.

In general airlines tens to treat their own FFs the best so standard advice is to use whom you have the most flights with.

For travel on airlines other than AA, EQDs are calculated on percentage of miles flown

AA is easy to work out since it is simply based on distances. You can get the distances ( very closely anyway) for a flight by using Great Circle Mapper

From that , status earning can be calculated. For example, if travelling on QR from LHR-DOH in business class, this is about 3261 miles

By going to https://www.aa.com/i18n/aadvantage-p...r-airlines.jsp and then following link to Qatar Airways can see that

For business class, would earn 1.5 EQMs per mile flown = 4892

EQDs in I or R class would be 20% of miles flown = 653 and in J,D or C class would be 25% = 816

It is a very straightforward system I would say

it doesnt seem that the OP is flying a lot of domestic US trips, hence, my suggestion.

personally, I am happy with AA exec plat as long as it is Y -> J on systemwide.
i dont do a lot of domestic US trips anymore, and if and when I do, I use my JGC to access flagship lounge.

QR just has a big devaluation, so not sure if it is the way forward.

Ahh, I do apologise, never quite have seen that line before!

As bad as it sounds, I am very tempted to jump ship completely to BAEC as I realise that I could qualify for Gold with my next several flights, of which would only be good to maintain Gold with CX