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tfung Dec 17, 2001 9:24 pm

CAI and JNB on OWE?
 
Africa is an obvious weakness in the OneWorld system, and it's even more pronounced in the OWE fare.... I am trying to plan a trip on OWE than let's me go to both CAI and JNB... it seems that regardless of where you start, it's practically impossible to hit both those cities with one ticket. Since there are no direct flights between the two cities, you can only connect through London or Madrid... meaning that you will need 2 intercontinental departures from Europe.. Anyone have any ideas on how to get to both places? I really can't think of any ideas myself....

Hagbard Viking Dec 17, 2001 9:40 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by tfung:
Africa is an obvious weakness in the OneWorld system, and it's even more pronounced in the OWE fare.... I am trying to plan a trip on OWE than let's me go to both CAI and JNB... it seems that regardless of where you start, it's practically impossible to hit both those cities with one ticket. Since there are no direct flights between the two cities, you can only connect through London or Madrid... meaning that you will need 2 intercontinental departures from Europe.. Anyone have any ideas on how to get to both places? I really can't think of any ideas myself....</font>
Unless I'm mistaken CAI is considered Europe (for OWE purposes, I know it's on the African continent geographically). Shouldn't be a problem going to both CAI and JNB on a &gt;= 4 continent OWE. (You will, however, have used up your Middle Eastern touchdown by going to CAI so it precludes a mileage-turnaround at DXB or MCT).

tfung Dec 17, 2001 10:07 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Hagbard Viking:
Unless I'm mistaken CAI is considered Europe (for OWE purposes, I know it's on the African continent geographically). Shouldn't be a problem going to both CAI and JNB on a &gt;= 4 continent OWE. (You will, however, have used up your Middle Eastern touchdown by going to CAI so it precludes a mileage-turnaround at DXB or MCT).</font>
That's very interesting.... I guess CAI is out of the question then, unless I pay the extra segment costs if I want to do DXB, CAI and JNB in the same trip.. Thanks!

pegasus8228 Dec 18, 2001 1:11 am

DXB and CAI are mutually exclusive, unless u can go from DXB to CAI without passing UK, but i can't find such route.

hauteboy Dec 18, 2001 7:42 pm

What's odd is that Sudan is considered as part of Europe/MidEast for the fare zones, but the only OW flights to Khartoum are from Nairobi. Plenty of places you can't get to in Africa now with the OWE fare, especially now that MRU is out as well. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/frown.gif

PaulSEA1 Dec 19, 2001 1:18 pm

You can see the Oneworld Explorer brochure, including continent maps, at:

http://www.fichters.net/oneworld.htm

This shows the African countries which belong to Europe/ME for OWE.

PaulSEA1 Dec 19, 2001 1:21 pm

South African Airways would have made a very nice OW partner, especially for OWEs. CX and I believe QF already code share with SAA.

AA used to have a relationship with SAA but Delta displaced AA when SAA joined SkyTeam.

I can't think of any other African carriers that I would risk my life on voluntarily...

[This message has been edited by PaulSEA1 (edited 12-19-2001).]


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