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drbala Nov 27, 2001 3:31 am

Possible 3 continent routing?
 
Hello FT friends. I am planning to do the following routing only for miles in Biz class and want your opinion about further maximising on a 3 continent trip
I am originating in India and have to do be in London first. I chose DXB rather than Muscat due to ease of returning same day. I also need to touch msy. Cannot do ANC as this will be in the next two months

BOM-HKG-LHR-DXB-ISTANBUL-LHR-LAX-MIA-MSY-SEA-DFW-RDU-JFK-HKG-SIN-HKG-BOM
Thanks

Hagbard Viking Nov 27, 2001 6:33 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by drbala:
BOM-HKG-LHR-DXB-ISTANBUL-LHR-LAX-MIA-MSY-SEA-DFW-RDU-JFK-HKG-SIN-HKG-BOM
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BOM-SIN-LHR is about 500 miles more than BOM-HKG-LHR.

DFW-SJU-JFK is almost 2,300 miles more than DFW-RDU-JFK

HKG-NRT is about 200 miles more than HKG-SIN, and HKG-JKT or SUB is another 200 miles more (though I'm not sure 400 miles is worth going to Indonesia at the moment)

To sum up:

BOM-HKG-LHR-DXB-LHR-IST-LHR-LAX-MIA-MSY-SEA-DFW-RDU-JFK-HKG-SIN-HKG-BOM is 46,325 miles

BOM-SIN-LHR-DXB-LHR-IST-LHR-LAX-MIA-MSY-SEA-DFW-SJU-JFK-HKG-NRT-HKG-BOM is 49,550 miles

Have fun!

drbala Nov 27, 2001 8:20 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Hagbard Viking:
BOM-SIN-LHR is about 500 miles more than BOM-HKG-LHR.

DFW-SJU-JFK is almost 2,300 miles more than DFW-RDU-JFK

HKG-NRT is about 200 miles more than HKG-SIN, and HKG-JKT or SUB is another 200 miles more (though I'm not sure 400 miles is worth going to Indonesia at the moment)

To sum up:

BOM-HKG-LHR-DXB-LHR-IST-LHR-LAX-MIA-MSY-SEA-DFW-RDU-JFK-HKG-SIN-HKG-BOM is 46,325 miles

BOM-SIN-LHR-DXB-LHR-IST-LHR-LAX-MIA-MSY-SEA-DFW-SJU-JFK-HKG-NRT-HKG-BOM is 49,550 miles

Have fun!
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Hi Hagabard Viking
Good to hear from you
The BOM-SIN-LHR idea is brilliant as also the NRT. I made a mistake of RDU instead of SJU. I may go to HKG-DPS with a final routing of
BOM=SIN-LHR-DXB-LHR=IST-LHR-LAX-MIA-MSY-SEA-DFW-SJU=JFK-HKG-DPS-HKG-BOM
This makes 50104 miles Great
Just one more question
I have an option of charging it to my BA account to earn tier points. Can you guesstimate the tier points for this routing DONE3 fare. If I dont earn 1700 points to make gold I will stick with American.
Many thanks and hats off to you

Hagbard Viking Nov 28, 2001 6:43 am

I believe Cathay has suspended service to Denpasar, your options in Indonesia are currently Jakarta and Surabaya.

Can't help you with the BA EC tier points, I know practically nothing about the BA programme.

Hope you enjoy all your RTW's.

Darren Nov 28, 2001 8:09 am

Unless this is something that happened today, I would really question whether DPS has been suspended. There are two flights a day, 4 days a week, and one on the remaining. Maybe they will suspend one of them, but I couldn't see both, given that "high" season is about to return. CX's web site gives no info that they have been suspended, and I can say that 2 weeks ago, they were both running as scheduled. It does say that IST has been suspended as of the middle of the month.

pegasus8228 Nov 28, 2001 9:08 am

i would really be surprised if DPS is suspensed but Surabaya is not.

Surabaya is the 2nd probably largest city in Indonesia, but i don't think there is so much trade (and hence traffic) over there

pegasus8228 Nov 28, 2001 9:24 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by drbala:
BOM-HKG-LHR-DXB-ISTANBUL-LHR-LAX-MIA-MSY-SEA-DFW-RDU-JFK-HKG-SIN-HKG-BOM
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LAX-JFK-MSY instead of LAX-MIA-MSY should give you mroe mile. via BOS gives you even more, but i don't think there is direct flight bos-msy

if u like to try the famous CX888 for the transcont long haul, try
LAX-msy-JFK-yvr-DFW-SJU-JFK

in europe u only used 3 segments. and IST is ont he way from dxb-lhr.
better do: lhr-dxb-lhr-(TXL or other city)-lhr



[This message has been edited by pegasus8228 (edited 11-28-2001).]

drbala Nov 28, 2001 2:22 pm

Thank you all
Hagabard Viking: CX is flying to DPS I am going there on Dec 8 from HKG Confirmed
Pegasus Thanks for your suggestions. Dut to a typo I missed out DXB-LHR-IST-LHR 4 segments. The other routes you suggested were valid before Sept 11 and now AA has cancelled lots of their direct flights. Thanks for the effort and help
Anybody there with a knowledge of tier points? I cant find anything at BA web site

Hagbard Viking Nov 28, 2001 4:36 pm

Sorry about the misinformation about DPS. My bad. I looked at Cathay's web page and couldn't find it in their schedules. Found it now, it's listed under Bali/Denpasar, I was originally looking under D...

Did you try posting your BA tier point question in the BA forum?

hfly Nov 28, 2001 5:34 pm

The CX IST flight IS suspended.

pegasus8228 Nov 28, 2001 7:59 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by drbala:

BOM=SIN-LHR-DXB-LHR=IST-LHR-LAX-MIA-MSY-SEA-DFW-SJU=JFK-HKG-DPS-HKG-BOM
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i think you cannot fly both DXB and IST as one 2 segments to africa/ME is allowed, read fewmiles' site for the definition of these countries. LIS/MAD are treated as 'africa/ME'!

not sure what class you take: here are the base pts (in Y, x2 for D, and x3 for F segments, not not all flight has availability in F outside NA, and in NA u get F with a DONEW)

BOM=SIN-LHR-DXB-LHR=IST/TXL-LHR-LAX-MIA-MSY-SEA-DFW-SJU=JFK-HKG-DPS-HKG-BOM

30/50?+80 +50+50 +30+30 +80 +50 +15
+15?+15+50/15? +50/15? +60?+30?+30?+30?

? marks= one of those in slash
note no F available in HKG-DPS or LHR-IST
so a F award would likely get u

90 +240+150+150 +60+60 +240 +150 +45
+45 45+150 +150 +180+60+60+90
=1965
should get you welll over 1700 pts


Darren Nov 28, 2001 8:34 pm

HV, we will forgive you this time, but as your punishment, you will need to do an RTW in coach! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

pegasus, Istanbul is technically in Europe and not the Middle East.


milehighj Nov 28, 2001 8:55 pm

I recently e-mailed a travel agent in DEL and was quoted the following:

OW 3-zone RTW, J class = INR180,340 + tax

Conditions:
- 6 stops in North America, 2 in Asia, 2 in Europe.

Although I was told that backtracking was allowed, apparently they were not able to route my final two legs as LHR-SIN-DEL on a east-bound routing, and was told that only LHR-DEL was permitted.

My original enquiry was for:
DEL-SFO-MSY-SFO-YVR-JFK-LHR-OSL-LHR-SIN-DEL
(stopovers, not sectors)

Can anyone advise if the price is competitive, and whether it's really true that I can't return via SIN?

Thanks!

[This message has been edited by milehighj (edited 11-28-2001).]

drbala Nov 29, 2001 4:03 am

Pegasus8228
Many many thanks I will save and savor your thread for future reference. I understand IST is still europe.
Once again I am very grateful for your reply

drbala Nov 29, 2001 4:12 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by milehighj:
I recently e-mailed a travel agent in DEL and was quoted the following:

OW 3-zone RTW, J class = INR180,340 + tax

Conditions:
- 6 stops in North America, 2 in Asia, 2 in Europe.

Although I was told that backtracking was allowed, apparently they were not able to route my final two legs as LHR-SIN-DEL on a east-bound routing, and was told that only LHR-DEL was permitted.

My original enquiry was for:
DEL-SFO-MSY-SFO-YVR-JFK-LHR-OSL-LHR-SIN-DEL
(stopovers, not sectors)

Can anyone advise if the price is competitive, and whether it's really true that I can't return via SIN?

Thanks!

[This message has been edited by milehighj (edited 11-28-2001).]
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Milehighj
I am very familiar with Indian RTW tickets as I usually originate and end in India. The J class fare before taxes is 1.7 Lakhs. My travel agent in Madras gives a 8% discount in rupees bringing the cost to about 1.56 laks plus tax. Do not ask local travel agent about routing as they work with BA and you always get NO NO for an answer.
You will get 4 segments each in Asia and Europe and six in USA with two stop overs in Asia and you acnnot visit India twice in Asia. It is best to ring AA round the world desk in US ask them to book this itinerary and take the booking reference and a FAXed itinerary to your travel agent and he will issue the ticket without any problem. If AA rtw says you cant do LHr-SIN-DEL then you cant do it! Insist on your 10% discount and he will moan and moan and WILL give you 8%. You can log into www.primetravels.com and see the latest RTW fares. It is an excellent site and you can chat with a live agent too.
Best of luck


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