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Gardyloo Oct 22, 2016 8:20 am


Originally Posted by pandaperth (Post 27376470)
I'm not sure what point gardyloo is making with regard to transiting Asia twice..

I'm still hampered by the old (pre-online booking) interpretation of the Asia transit rule, i.e. it was only allowed when going from Europe to SWP or vice versa, not SWP to North America or v.v. The original idea was that it was allowed since there was no nonstop Europe - SWP service, while there obviously is between SWP and North America.


Originally Posted by wingzing (Post 27377431)
I had a similar itinerary. CX would not allow the last transit through HKG. AA permitted it. I did some dummy bookings and the online tool was OK with it.

Sounds like CX is also of the old opinion. Mind you, I'm personally cool with it.


Originally Posted by qsh (Post 27378886)
http://www.gcmap.com/map?P=c:%23abcd...%23ee82ee&PW=2

hkg-bkk-cmb-nrt-cmb-pvg-syd-dxb-lon-cpt-doh-lax-mbj-lax-gru-asu-bog-asu-gru-jfk-yvr-hkg
80230mi

(though only 78,941 mi if direct flights are calculated based on direct distance...)

Too many Asia segments, plus (and again this may be old interpretation) the second North America transit (GRU-xJFK-xYVR-HKG) can't have more than one connection point. GRU-xJFK-HKG would be okay if the JFK connection is less than 24h. Does LAX-MBJ-LAX even exist?

qsh Oct 22, 2016 10:57 am

Yes JFK stop has to be less then 24hours.
And LAX-MBJ-LAX actually exist. Once weekly AA2599/8 red eye from LAX on Friday and return on Saturday. Unfortunately AA doesn't fly to PTY from LAX, that would add quite a lot of distance.

Dr. HFH Oct 22, 2016 6:18 pm


Originally Posted by qsh (Post 27378886)
hkg-bkk-cmb-nrt-cmb-pvg-syd-dxb-lon-cpt-doh-lax-mbj-lax-gru-asu-bog-asu-gru-jfk-yvr-hkg

Wouldn't you do better with a JFK-HKG nonstop and use the extra segment somewhere else?

Kiwi Flyer Oct 22, 2016 7:47 pm


Originally Posted by Gardyloo (Post 27379110)
I'm still hampered by the old (pre-online booking) interpretation of the Asia transit rule, i.e. it was only allowed when going from Europe to SWP or vice versa, not SWP to North America or v.v. The original idea was that it was allowed since there was no nonstop Europe - SWP service, while there obviously is between SWP and North America.

Sounds like CX is also of the old opinion. Mind you, I'm personally cool with it.

On xONEx I've flown via Asia between SWP and North America, with separate Asia entry between Europe and SWP, many times over the years. Most recently was over a year ago, so it may have changed since I last did it.

Kiwi Flyer Oct 22, 2016 7:49 pm


Originally Posted by Dr. HFH (Post 27380764)
Wouldn't you do better with a JFK-HKG nonstop and use the extra segment somewhere else?

qsh has listed every flown sector, but would only be able to do this by booking as JFK-HKG (and similarly for the other multi-sector flights).

pandaperth Oct 23, 2016 8:08 am


Originally Posted by Gardyloo (Post 27379110)
I'm still hampered by the old (pre-online booking) interpretation of the Asia transit rule, i.e. it was only allowed when going from Europe to SWP or vice versa, not SWP to North America or v.v. The original idea was that it was allowed since there was no nonstop Europe - SWP service, while there obviously is between SWP and North America.

Sounds like CX is also of the old opinion. Mind you, I'm personally cool with it.


Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer (Post 27380936)
On xONEx I've flown via Asia between SWP and North America, with separate Asia entry between Europe and SWP, many times over the years. Most recently was over a year ago, so it may have changed since I last did it.

I have also had a second visit to Asia as a transit between Nth America and SWP (it was YVR-xHKG-PER) - purchased from AA

And just last July I purchased, again from AA, a ticket with a second visit to Asia - this time it is PER-xHGK-DFW

So it does seem that CX is misinterpreting the rule (which IIRC was a fairly common occurrence prior to the on-line booking tool becoming available)

I suggest the OP go back to CX pointing out that other airlines (specifically AA) AND the on-line tool interpret the rule to be:
Two permitted in Asia when
- one is a transfer without stopover or
- on direct single plane service between the Southwest Pacific and Europe/Middle East.
With the first dot point having nothing to do with SWP-Europe/Middle East
(the on-line tool allows both Nth America-xAsia-SWP and Africa-xAsia-SWP)

pbd456 Oct 23, 2016 5:47 pm

never mind


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