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Is this the longest rtw allowed?
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http://www.gcmap.com/map?P=c:%23abcd...%23ee82ee&PW=2 hkg-bkk-cmb-nrt-cmb-pvg-syd-dxb-lon-cpt-doh-lax-mbj-lax-gru-asu-bog-asu-gru-jfk-yvr-hkg 80230mi ................ Routing: Toronto - Los Angeles - Santiago - Easter Island - Santiago - Dallas/Ft. Worth - Doha - London - Johannesburg - Hong Kong - Male - Hong Kong - Delhi - Hong Kong - Auckland - Hong Kong - Toronto 70,529 mi 145 flight hours http://www.gcmap.com/map?P=yyz-lax-s...X=720x360&PM=* |
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See this thread and review the rules for transiting Asia twice - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/onewo...ent-rules.html |
I'm not sure what point gardyloo is making with regard to transiting Asia twice
The routing looks valid to me - the final visit to HKG, after AKL, will need to be a 'transfer without stopover' - as will the visit to DFW after South America yyz-lax-scl-ipc-scl-dfw-doh-lhr-jnb-hkg-mle-hkg-del-hkg-akl-hkg-yyz Don't now if it is the longest possible RTW routing |
Originally Posted by pandaperth
(Post 27376470)
I'm not sure what point gardyloo is making with regard to transiting Asia twice
The routing looks valid to me - the final visit to HKG, after AKL, will need to be a 'transfer without stopover' - as will the visit to DFW after South America yyz-lax-scl-ipc-scl-dfw-doh-lhr-jnb-hkg-mle-hkg-del-hkg-akl-hkg-yyz Don't now if it is the longest possible RTW routing hkg cmb nrt cmb hkg is better already |
Hkg transit
I had a similar itinerary. CX would not allow the last transit through HKG. AA permitted it. I did some dummy bookings and the online tool was OK with it.
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What reason did CX give for denying it?
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Originally Posted by pbd456
(Post 27376558)
far from it.
hkg cmb nrt cmb hkg is better already Not to mention that nearly an extra 3000 miles could be had by tweaking the first six sectors to something like this: yyz-lax-gru-bog-gru-lax-doh |
Originally Posted by pbd456
(Post 27376558)
far from it.
hkg cmb nrt cmb hkg is better already |
Originally Posted by qsh
(Post 27377776)
Agreed. But Online tool would not allow J class from cmb to nrt.
i can think of many many many ways to improve on your routing to get more miles. example, ipc-scl is shorter than scl-bog also, you should max out on intra europe via doh, like cmn-doh lax-doh is longer than dfw-doh. gru lax is longer than scl dfw... |
Thanks for the input
Is this better? cmb-nrt-cgk-nrt-mel-dxb-lon-cpt-doh-lax-mbj-lax-gru-asu-bog-asu-gru-jfk-yvr-hkg-bkk-cmb http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=cmb-nrt-cgk-nrt-mel-dxb-lon-cpt-doh-lax-mbj-lax-gru-asu-bog-asu-gru-jfk-yvr-hkg-bkk-cmb&MS=bm&MP=rect&MC=SYD&PC=%23cc3333&PW=2&DU=mi 79,930 mi Fifth freedom flights: mel-dxb-lhr QF9 gru-asu-bog JJ8012/3 jfk-yvr-hkg CX889 hkg-bkk-cmb UL891 So 21 flight segments but still valid for the "16 segment" rule. just 70mi short of 80k... |
how much would this ticket in J cost?
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Originally Posted by qsh
(Post 27378106)
Fifth freedom flights:
mel-dxb-lhr QF9 gru-asu-bog JJ8012/3 jfk-yvr-hkg CX889 hkg-bkk-cmb UL891 So 21 flight segments but still valid for the "16 segment" rule. |
I think they calculate direct distance... But I am not sure, we should ask the experts.
Regarding your question, this is just for the sake of fun... I plan on taking my shorter original plan in J class some day, which consist of mostly enjoyable long haul Cathay Pacific flights. |
http://www.gcmap.com/map?P=c:%23abcd...%23ee82ee&PW=2
hkg-bkk-cmb-nrt-cmb-pvg-syd-dxb-lon-cpt-doh-lax-mbj-lax-gru-asu-bog-asu-gru-jfk-yvr-hkg 80230mi (though only 78,941 mi if direct flights are calculated based on direct distance...) |
direct flights are indeed calculated on the direct distance if ticketed as a single coupon.
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Originally Posted by pandaperth
(Post 27376470)
I'm not sure what point gardyloo is making with regard to transiting Asia twice..
Originally Posted by wingzing
(Post 27377431)
I had a similar itinerary. CX would not allow the last transit through HKG. AA permitted it. I did some dummy bookings and the online tool was OK with it.
Originally Posted by qsh
(Post 27378886)
http://www.gcmap.com/map?P=c:%23abcd...%23ee82ee&PW=2
hkg-bkk-cmb-nrt-cmb-pvg-syd-dxb-lon-cpt-doh-lax-mbj-lax-gru-asu-bog-asu-gru-jfk-yvr-hkg 80230mi (though only 78,941 mi if direct flights are calculated based on direct distance...) |
Yes JFK stop has to be less then 24hours.
And LAX-MBJ-LAX actually exist. Once weekly AA2599/8 red eye from LAX on Friday and return on Saturday. Unfortunately AA doesn't fly to PTY from LAX, that would add quite a lot of distance. |
Originally Posted by qsh
(Post 27378886)
hkg-bkk-cmb-nrt-cmb-pvg-syd-dxb-lon-cpt-doh-lax-mbj-lax-gru-asu-bog-asu-gru-jfk-yvr-hkg
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Originally Posted by Gardyloo
(Post 27379110)
I'm still hampered by the old (pre-online booking) interpretation of the Asia transit rule, i.e. it was only allowed when going from Europe to SWP or vice versa, not SWP to North America or v.v. The original idea was that it was allowed since there was no nonstop Europe - SWP service, while there obviously is between SWP and North America.
Sounds like CX is also of the old opinion. Mind you, I'm personally cool with it. |
Originally Posted by Dr. HFH
(Post 27380764)
Wouldn't you do better with a JFK-HKG nonstop and use the extra segment somewhere else?
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Originally Posted by Gardyloo
(Post 27379110)
I'm still hampered by the old (pre-online booking) interpretation of the Asia transit rule, i.e. it was only allowed when going from Europe to SWP or vice versa, not SWP to North America or v.v. The original idea was that it was allowed since there was no nonstop Europe - SWP service, while there obviously is between SWP and North America.
Sounds like CX is also of the old opinion. Mind you, I'm personally cool with it.
Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer
(Post 27380936)
On xONEx I've flown via Asia between SWP and North America, with separate Asia entry between Europe and SWP, many times over the years. Most recently was over a year ago, so it may have changed since I last did it.
And just last July I purchased, again from AA, a ticket with a second visit to Asia - this time it is PER-xHGK-DFW So it does seem that CX is misinterpreting the rule (which IIRC was a fairly common occurrence prior to the on-line booking tool becoming available) I suggest the OP go back to CX pointing out that other airlines (specifically AA) AND the on-line tool interpret the rule to be: Two permitted in Asia when With the first dot point having nothing to do with SWP-Europe/Middle East- one is a transfer without stopover or - on direct single plane service between the Southwest Pacific and Europe/Middle East. (the on-line tool allows both Nth America-xAsia-SWP and Africa-xAsia-SWP) |
never mind
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