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pandaperth Aug 1, 2016 12:43 pm

WARNING - ex-MPM Prices are moving!!
 
Just looking at Oneworld prices ex-MPM

BA is now showing a DONE6 at a base fare of MZN495,000
AA is still showing it as MZN225,000

Looks like this party may be coming to an end
Get in quick if you're procrastinating

Edited to add:
In EF, the filing date of BA's new fares is 02AUG16

pandaperth Aug 1, 2016 1:08 pm

In EF, BA's new fares are:

DONE4 MZN357,060 (up from MZN162,300)
DONE5 MZN407,000 (up from MZN185,000)
DONE6 MZN495,000 (up from MZN225,000)

AONE4 MZN581,900 (up from MZN264,500)
AONE5 MZN669,900 (up from MZN304,500)
AONE6 MZN803,000 (up from MZN365,000)

Note: the "up from" base fares are what is showing in EF right now for AA fares ex-MPM
The new fares are more than double the old fares:(

However, given the way the MZN is falling against 'hard' currencies, maybe we all just have to wait little while until these new fares come back to what the previous fares were in USD terms:D
But, then again we know of currencies where Oneworld abandoned use of the local currency and started quoting fares in USD only.

headinclouds Aug 1, 2016 1:17 pm

If you are not ticketed NOW, you will have to pay the new rates. Agent T mentioned in the other posts stated that as of 11 am CDT, the new rates applied. I had a quote yesterday, but did not ticket it since I was informed it was OK for a few days. Oh well, I have my backup DONE4 ex-JNB.

skunker Aug 1, 2016 1:24 pm


Originally Posted by headinclouds (Post 26999402)
If you are not ticketed NOW, you will have to pay the new rates. Agent T mentioned in the other posts stated that as of 11 am CDT, the new rates applied. I had a quote yesterday, but did not ticket it since I was informed it was OK for a few days. Oh well, I have my backup DONE4 ex-JNB.

I just called to pay for mine. I'll see what happens.

EDIT: That was quick

Issued: Monday, August 1, 2016

Status: Ticketed

pandaperth Aug 1, 2016 1:27 pm


Originally Posted by headinclouds (Post 26999402)
If you are not ticketed NOW, you will have to pay the new rates. Agent T mentioned in the other posts stated that as of 11 am CDT, the new rates applied. I had a quote yesterday, but did not ticket it since I was informed it was OK for a few days. Oh well, I have my backup DONE4 ex-JNB.

I am waiting to see what happens with my ex-MPM DONE6. It was priced last week and I phoned AA's Sydney office on Friday and provided my credit card details. But it has not yet been ticketed and my credit card has not been charged.

In my opinion a delay by AA is doing its ticketing should not result in me being penalised by being charged the new fare.
Does anyone have experience of being in this situation, and if so what was the outcome for you?

headinclouds I think the quote you got would have words to effect "Ticket by mmm-dd", so perhaps you could be in the same situation as me.

headinclouds Aug 1, 2016 1:44 pm


Originally Posted by pandaperth (Post 26999456)
I am waiting to see what happens with my ex-MPM DONE6. It was priced last week and I phoned AA's Sydney office on Friday and provided my credit card details. But it has not yet been ticketed and my credit card has not been charged.

In my opinion a delay by AA is doing its ticketing should not result in me being penalised by being charged the new fare.
Does anyone have experience of being in this situation, and if so what was the outcome for you?

headinclouds I think the quote you got would have words to effect "Ticket by mmm-dd", so perhaps you could be in the same situation as me.

I canceled the ticket because the agent said it had to be rerated and that the quote was no longer valid. AA.com said it was on hold until Aug 8. Looks like I was too hasty. I may have gotten the hold price. Bad agent I guess.
You may be OK since AA already had the CC details. I had not given any CC info.

headinclouds Aug 1, 2016 1:48 pm


Originally Posted by skunker (Post 26999439)
I just called to pay for mine. I'll see what happens.

EDIT: That was quick

When you paid, were you told the previously quoted price?

jerry a. laska Aug 1, 2016 1:53 pm

I just called and paid for my AONE4 that I booked yesterday. At that time the agent expected it not to be rated by fares until late today. aa.com showed a price (based upon the old fares) and said it was on hold, so called a few moments ago and provided payment at the price it was rated (based on old fares). Agent did not mention any potential price increases. It is now showing on request (which is normal) on aa.com.

Edited to add: About 10 minutes later and it is now ticketed at the price I expected (based upon the fares from yesterday).

skunker Aug 1, 2016 2:02 pm


Originally Posted by headinclouds (Post 26999564)
When you paid, were you told the previously quoted price?

Yes. I just called, gave my PNR and he said "let me see if it's back with a fare." He quoted the price that was on AA.com since Friday, took my CC info, and told me to have fun in Mozambique.

headinclouds Aug 1, 2016 2:08 pm


Originally Posted by jerry a. laska (Post 26999595)
I just called and paid for my AONE4 that I booked yesterday. At that time the agent expected it not to be rated by fares until late today. aa.com showed a price (based upon the old fares) and said it was on hold, so called a few moments ago and provided payment at the price it was rated (based on old fares). Agent did not mention any potential price increases. It is now showing on request (which is normal) on aa.com.

Edited to add: About 10 minutes later and it is now ticketed at the price I expected (based upon the fares from yesterday).

I should have ticketed first and dealt with the consequences later. No way to recover a canceled reservation. ARGH !!! Time to drown my sorrows in a few brews...

pbd456 Aug 1, 2016 2:37 pm

try to buy one more from cx on monday. due to typhoon, agents are too busy due to rebooking... oh well.

Himeno Aug 1, 2016 5:50 pm

They must have done this shortly after I checked yesterday after work (around late morning UTC Aug 1).

thois Aug 1, 2016 7:18 pm

It seems that also exWDH xONEx fares are rising now.

moa999 Aug 1, 2016 9:07 pm

Someone in oneworld HQ reads FT

Himeno Aug 1, 2016 9:50 pm


Originally Posted by moa999 (Post 27001372)
Someone in oneworld HQ reads FT

Doesn't have to be someone at OW HQ in NY. Could be any agent who passed up questions about the fares. Someone quoted a comment from the AA desk asking about FT.

pandaperth Aug 1, 2016 9:53 pm


Originally Posted by pandaperth (Post 26999456)
I am waiting to see what happens with my ex-MPM DONE6. It was priced last week and I phoned AA's Sydney office on Friday and provided my credit card details. But it has not yet been ticketed and my credit card has not been charged.

In my opinion a delay by AA is doing its ticketing should not result in me being penalised by being charged the new fare.
Does anyone have experience of being in this situation, and if so what was the outcome for you?

So I got impatient and phoned the Sydney office -and it was ticketed for me while I waited! I'm a happy chappie right now - see :D

skunker Aug 1, 2016 9:56 pm


Originally Posted by Himeno (Post 27001499)
Doesn't have to be someone at OW HQ in NY. Could be any agent who passed up questions about the fares. Someone quoted a comment from the AA desk asking about FT.

When I called last Thursday when I said start in Maputo the agent said "oh, you've been on FlyerTalk." She had done "about 10" in the previous week.

Another member ticketed with QF and they were told something would need to be done about the prices.

Tickets were booked with AA, BA, CX, and QF according to posts here.

pandaperth Aug 1, 2016 11:30 pm

Now that the Mozambique party is over, it's time for us to brag about who got one (or more)! (Just like spotty-faced teenagers right?)

I'll go first shall I:
I got two
DONE5 starting next month, heading West from Europe/Middle East, returning at the end SYD-JNB, so no backtracking through Europe/Middle East
Did it through an Australian travel agent, ticketed by Qantas. All in cost AUD5156

DONE6 starting in June 2017, heading East from Europe/Middle East, returning to Europe for stopovers in London and Madrid - so backtracking through Europe/Middle East. I wanted flights between Europe and Middle East (LHR-TLV-MAD), but AA said no. I've made a complaint about that and so will wait for the outcome
Did it through the AA desk, paid by phoning AA Sydney office All in cost AUD6210

So my thinking is that I've snagged a near two-year validity DONE11 for AUD11,366 all-in. For comparison an ex-Australia DONE4 has a base price of AUD11,999.

These two tickets pretty much take care of my travel needs through until mid-2018
Combined with my paid flying in January this year, the first eight flights on my DONE5 will get me to AA EXP status for the first and probably last time. The flying on these tickets in 2017 will get me to AA PLT status, as will the flying in 2018.

My starting flights are now unchangeable (at least not without paying the new fares). So I've just been online to pick my seat for my MPM-DOH flight in June next year. There is one other seat taken already in the business cabin. I'm thinking it MUST be a fellow FTer - so who is it who's flying MPM-DOH on June 8 2017?

moa999 Aug 2, 2016 4:50 am

Very nice pandperth. well done.

wandering_fred Aug 2, 2016 6:01 am

Alas I had medical scheduling issues that didn't resolve until late yesterday and I was "off-line"... :mad:

Since the scheduling flights I would need can be deferred until Apr 2017, I can hope the MZN continues to depreciate and even 10% over three or four months would be "useful". Especially since I seriously doubt I could convince Mrs WF to re-visit CAI. The alternative could still be the PE cabin ex JNB with a RT ticket on CX.

It would seem that the LONEx fares are still quite reasonable...:p

Happy wandering

Fred

pbd456 Aug 2, 2016 7:16 am


Originally Posted by pandaperth (Post 27001786)
Now that the Mozambique party is over, it's time for us to brag about who got one (or more)! (Just like spotty-faced teenagers right?)

I'll go first shall I:
I got two
DONE5 starting next month, heading West from Europe/Middle East, returning at the end SYD-JNB, so no backtracking through Europe/Middle East
Did it through an Australian travel agent, ticketed by Qantas. All in cost AUD5156

DONE6 starting in June 2017, heading East from Europe/Middle East, returning to Europe for stopovers in London and Madrid - so backtracking through Europe/Middle East. I wanted flights between Europe and Middle East (LHR-TLV-MAD), but AA said no. I've made a complaint about that and so will wait for the outcome
Did it through the AA desk, paid by phoning AA Sydney office All in cost AUD6210

So my thinking is that I've snagged a near two-year validity DONE11 for AUD11,366 all-in. For comparison an ex-Australia DONE4 has a base price of AUD11,999.

These two tickets pretty much take care of my travel needs through until mid-2018
Combined with my paid flying in January this year, the first eight flights on my DONE5 will get me to AA EXP status for the first and probably last time. The flying on these tickets in 2017 will get me to AA PLT status, as will the flying in 2018.

My starting flights are now unchangeable (at least not without paying the new fares). So I've just been online to pick my seat for my MPM-DOH flight in June next year. There is one other seat taken already in the business cabin. I'm thinking it MUST be a fellow FTer - so who is it who's flying MPM-DOH on June 8 2017?

i project my july 2017 ticket can get me aa exec in.2018. since i only plan to fly first two.segments in 2017

pbd456 Aug 2, 2016 7:41 am

i am in the middle of a done4 ex jnb that started in jan 2016. 4060usd.
it gets me to aa exec plat with other cheap tickets i have flown. will end in durban in dec, and plan to travel overland to mpm to start ex mpm on jan 2017.

fly that ex mpm till mid july and it has enough mqd for aa and over 90k eqm for aa. then pick up another ex mpm on july 20, fly the first 2 segments, and then will reroute the rest and fly in 2018. these 14 segments will have enough eqd for aa, and most of eqm. since i can still fly cheap domestic aa ticket or cheap international ticket with 4 swus. should have no problem to make aa exec plat in 2018 assuming.the rule wont change much.

anabolism Aug 2, 2016 9:00 am

Argh!
 
I didn't see this alert. I've been putting together an ex-MPM AONEx. I'd checked EF Monday morning and afternoon, and it showed unchanged fares, so I thought I was safe. Was going to phone AA RTW today. It would have been my first AONEx.

In hindsight, I should have phoned over the weekend and booked a skeleton ex-MPM AONEx, then added the full itinerary later and paid the $125 reroute.

Is there anywhere to start that's cheap now?

pbd456 Aug 2, 2016 9:30 am

exec plat gets 120% bonus on partner instead of 100%.. so. 12000 miles per ticket..

skunker Aug 2, 2016 9:36 am


Originally Posted by anabolism (Post 27003408)
I didn't see this alert. I've been putting together an ex-MPM AONEx. I'd checked FT Monday morning and afternoon, and it showed unchanged fares, so I thought I was safe. Was going to phone AA RTW today. It would have been my first AONEx.

In hindsight, I should have phoned over the weekend and booked a skeleton ex-MPM AONEx, then added the full itinerary later and paid the $125 reroute.

Is there anywhere to start that's cheap now?

MPM is still cheaper than South Africa and WDH (which were just raised to match SA).

Depending on desired routing CAI might be of interest, or just wait for MPM to crash again. :D

Matt4 Aug 2, 2016 5:13 pm

Surprisingly, EF still shows the previous price with QF and CX. Does that mean there's still hope to book a cheap ex-MPM RTW with these airlines ?

Dr. HFH Aug 2, 2016 7:18 pm

Egypt's looking good right now. And you only need a three continent ticket, as well.

pbd456 Aug 2, 2016 7:31 pm


Originally Posted by Matt4 (Post 27005899)
Surprisingly, EF still shows the previous price with QF and CX. Does that mean there's still hope to book a cheap ex-MPM RTW with these airlines ?

yes.

pbd456 Aug 2, 2016 10:48 pm

aa ba cx jl ib have updated the fare. pandaperth had ticketed on with qf, he may know a way to do it quickly.

within the last year, i have ticketed 16 rtw with cx, 5 with aa (cancelled before better price with cx) and set up numerous pnr with ba aa..... sad that these deals are gone. i have learnt a lot

pandaperth Aug 2, 2016 11:34 pm


Originally Posted by pbd456 (Post 27007040)
aa ba cx jl ib have updated the fare. pandaperth had ticketed on with qf, he may know a way to do it quickly.

within the last year, i have ticketed 16 rtw with cx, 5 with aa (cancelled before better price with cx) and set up numerous pnr with ba aa..... sad that these deals are gone. i have learnt a lot

I've just looked in EF and yes QF is still showing the old, much lower, prices. CX's prices have now been raised to the new level.

So it can-do no harm to telephone your nearest QF office and give it a try.

pbd456 Aug 3, 2016 1:03 am


Originally Posted by pandaperth (Post 27007141)
I've just looked in EF and yes QF is still showing the old, much lower, prices. CX's prices have now been raised to the new level.

So it can-do no harm to telephone your nearest QF office and give it a try.

how did u ticket with qf?

pandaperth Aug 3, 2016 1:46 am


Originally Posted by pbd456 (Post 27007335)
how did u ticket with qf?

See post #18

pbd456 Aug 3, 2016 3:30 am


Originally Posted by pandaperth (Post 27007431)
See post #18

did u go to the agent physically?

pandaperth Aug 3, 2016 3:42 am


Originally Posted by pbd456 (Post 27007680)
did u go to the agent physically?

No. I'm not even in Australia at the moment
But I wanted to purchase there because I have an Australian credit and so to avoid the foreign exchange that they would charge if I bought elsewhere

I used flightplanet.com.au . It is a fully accredited travel agent, been around for years.

However they do charge a service fee. I was told it is normally 8% of the ticket value, but I got a discount to 5% (so I paid $241). They also charge a fee for paying by credit card (1.5% I think, but I go that waived).

To purchase a RTW ticket, you should be able to phone Qantas direct

headinclouds Aug 3, 2016 9:40 am


Originally Posted by Dr. HFH (Post 27006356)
Egypt's looking good right now. And you only need a three continent ticket, as well.

With only minor differences in price between xONE3 and xONE4. Too bad that ex-WDH A fares went up as well.

pbd456 Aug 3, 2016 10:11 am


Originally Posted by headinclouds (Post 27009131)
With only minor differences in price between xONE3 and xONE4. Too bad that ex-WDH A fares went up as well.

the black market price of egEgyptian pound is lower than official price. there will be opportunities to buy one

rollthere Aug 3, 2016 4:24 pm


Originally Posted by pandaperth (Post 27007708)

I used flightplanet.com.au . It is a fully accredited travel agent, been around for years.
...
To purchase a RTW ticket, you should be able to phone Qantas direct

Does QF have a RTW dept/phone or just the general reservation number?

Hut Aug 5, 2016 11:10 pm


Originally Posted by rollthere (Post 27011243)
Does QF have a RTW dept/phone or just the general reservation number?

I gave them a call about a month ago inquiring about an exMPM ticket - went through to the WP desk - had a great agent who bounced around a few different QF teams but after 30 mins trying they pretty much said it wasn't going to work.

I called the AA RTW desk and they were able to get it done... but I realise that doesn't really help you.

Unterwegs Aug 5, 2016 11:28 pm

A bit off topic, but after all these price increases what is the cheapest place to start an AONE/DONE now? Anything better than Japan?

Himeno Aug 6, 2016 2:50 am


Originally Posted by Unterwegs (Post 27022992)
A bit off topic, but after all these price increases what is the cheapest place to start an AONE/DONE now? Anything better than Japan?

Keep checking other places in Africa.
Exchange rates can change things at any time.

(My first DONE3 ended up being ~$300 more expensive because of the time it took QF to sort out ticketing. The tool worked for what I wanted, at the time QF ticketed for JL via the tool. There were issues with transaction limits and we had to try to coordinate a temp limit increase and ticketing within the increase period with the bank, QF SYD and QF Japan while public holidays - and closed offices - kept getting in the way)


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