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wideman Jun 1, 2016 10:02 am


Originally Posted by cphurley (Post 26711237)
So if I need to make changes to an older DONE5 that I'm in the middle of, will I be subject to re-pricing the whole ticket? And if so, how will they calculate the price if I'm 8 segments and 3 continents in??

No repricing on any ticket that has been issued, as long as there are no changes to the 1st segment. Because you've already flown that 1st segment, you're fine.

VaguelyCynical Jun 2, 2016 7:02 pm

One more data point if it's of interest, followed by a question:

Datapoint: I have been playing around with an ex-JNB LONE5 in the online tool over the past week and there has been no major change in price for my itinerary. Specifically, the total fare (including taxes/fees) has moved from $2301 USD on 5/31 to $2313 USD just now (6/2). If of interest, the routing is JNB-GRU-AEP-SCL-IPC-SCL-AKL-SYD-PVG-HKG-DEL-NRT-BKK-AMM-IST-LHR-CPT with first carrier LATAM Brazil.

Question: This validates in the online tool and I am able to 'Proceed to Booking' without it erroring out. If I book this online through the tool, how likely is it I run into problems for having a US-address credit card?

Dr. HFH Jun 2, 2016 8:13 pm


Originally Posted by cphurley (Post 26711237)
So if I need to make changes to an older DONE5 that I'm in the middle of, will I be subject to re-pricing the whole ticket? And if so, how will they calculate the price if I'm 8 segments and 3 continents in??


Originally Posted by danger (Post 26711798)
No, no. Once an itinerary has commenced historical prices apply. The only thing that may change is the taxes.

Don't they reprice the complete ticket if the cities/sequence change, even mid-itinerary?

jerry a. laska Jun 2, 2016 8:33 pm


Originally Posted by Dr. HFH (Post 26720387)
Don't they reprice the complete ticket if the cities/sequence change, even mid-itinerary?

No. Taxes and fees may change, the DONE5 fare will not.

christep Jun 2, 2016 9:50 pm

Moreover, if, for example, you added a 6th continent midway, I believe that the DONE6 fare applying at the time you purchased the DONE5 would apply for the repricing.

AAExpDFW Jun 3, 2016 12:06 am


Originally Posted by Off.Grid (Post 26710383)
First time post, hi all...

Currently scheduling an ex-JNB DONEx, noticed today a possible increase in base DONEx fare ex-JNB through the online tool.

Just me, or have the powers just adjusted the base fare? :eek:

I have direct access to Sabre. I have checked the fare basis for the DONE4 (and others) and nothing has changed. I think this is an EF problem.

danger Jun 3, 2016 12:14 am


Originally Posted by danger (Post 26710572)
And I've just priced a DONE5 ex-CPT that I've had in the planner for weeks. It's still pricing ZAR84,813.

Now it's increased. The base fare is ZAR101,820 and the total is ZAR118,281.

ExpertFlyer now reflects increased base fares when priced on QR. As noted above, a couple of days ago QR had the same unchanged fares.

Therefore I don't think it's an EF bug.

wideman Jun 3, 2016 6:41 am

So, the evidence we've got suggests that several OW carriers currently show a very significant increase in ex-RSA xONEx's, and that AA currently shows unchanged fares.

Using the OW tool, I just test-booked a DONE4 (with CX as 1st, thus issuing, carrier), and the base fare is 88,500 ZAR -- up 50% from the old price.

One reasonable conclusion is that the ex-RSA xONEx fares are in the process of being changed, and AA, maybe because all of the other integration-related changes going on there, has not yet registered the RTW fare hikes into their system.

JonNYC Jun 3, 2016 6:49 am


Originally Posted by wideman (Post 26722110)
So, the evidence we've got suggests that several OW carriers currently show a very significant increase in ex-RSA xONEx's, and that AA currently shows unchanged fares.

Using the OW tool, I just test-booked a DONE4 (with CX as 1st, thus issuing, carrier), and the base fare is 88,500 ZAR -- up 50% from the old price.

One reasonable conclusion is that the ex-RSA xONEx fares are in the process of being changed, and AA, maybe because all of the other integration-related changes going on there, has not yet registered the RTW fare hikes into their system.

Sure sounds like it.

aaupgrade Jun 3, 2016 8:23 am

FWIW as of right now, EF shows 88410 ZAR for DONE4 on BA an CX, AA still shows 58940 ZAR and shows old fares for DONE5, DONE6 and AONEn. DONE5 and DONE6 along with all AONEn fares are all zeroed out for CX and BA. Wait a few days and see how things settle out.

Gardyloo Jun 3, 2016 8:46 am

As of now, Namibia is unchanged, and a DONE4 ex-CAI is cheaper than ex-SA.

wandering_fred Jun 3, 2016 8:44 pm


Originally Posted by wideman (Post 26722110)
...
One reasonable conclusion is that the ex-RSA xONEx fares are in the process of being changed, and AA, maybe because all of the other integration-related changes going on there, has not yet registered the RTW fare hikes into their system.

OTOH with AA's current CC payment policy in South Africa, they may not be selling any xONEx fares. So no urgency to change.

Happy wandering

Fred

Dr. HFH Jun 3, 2016 9:57 pm


Originally Posted by aaupgrade (Post 26722598)
Wait a few days and see how things settle out.

With changes already implemented for some carriers, I think that we know how things are going to settle out.

aaupgrade Jun 4, 2016 6:13 am


Originally Posted by Dr. HFH (Post 26726057)
With changes already implemented for some carriers, I think that we know how things are going to settle out.

True, and while everyone has been discussing DONEn, for which there is new pricing, I personally am interested in AONEn for which there is no new pricing from CX or BA via EF yet, hence my remark:

Originally Posted by aaupgrade (Post 26722598)
Wait a few days and see how things settle out.

Depending on what the new AONEn prices are, Japan may replace SA as the best place to originate AONEn. I'm on an AONE3 for $8,319 USD ex-NRT right now and will be starting an AONE4 ex-SA after that which I got for $7,453 USD. If Africa is not a desired continent for one's RTW ticket then the AONEn ex-Japan equals a AONEn+1 RTW ticket ex-SA.

headinclouds Jun 5, 2016 8:33 am

What would happen if one had a ticket issued at the old price during this fare repricing period? I would assume that if absolutely no changes were made, that would be OK. But say you fly the 1st segment, then try to make changes. Would the rules in place when ticketed apply?


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