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Exactly 24 Hours. Is It a Stopover?
If you have flight that arrives at 7:55 PM on one day and another that
leaves at 7:55 PM the next day... is it considered 24 hours and thus a layover? |
It's a real YMMV on this. Some state one-way, some stay the other.
My one experience with such on a LONE4 had us scheduled to arrive on BA into LHR from ORD at 10am and departing for DBV from LGW at 10am the next day. It was ticketed by AA as a transit (-ORD-xLON-DBV-). Even with this AA can be non specific. e.g. http://www.aa.com/i18n/Tariffs/AA1.h...IRY_AA1-0135AA
Originally Posted by definitions
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Transit Point means any stop at an intermediate point on the route to be traveled (whether or not a change of planes is made) which does not fall within the definition of a stopover. ... Stopover means (Not applicable between points in Canada and points in Puerto Rico/Virgin Islands) a deliberate interruption of a journey at an intermediate point from which the passenger is not scheduled to depart within 24 hours of arrival.
Originally Posted by 78.2
For the purpose of this rule "Stopover" means: A deliberate interruption of a journey at an intermediate point from which the passenger is scheduled to depart later than 24 hours after arrival. (Local time)
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Both statements suggest that exactly 24 hours is fine.
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Originally Posted by cityflyer369
(Post 19517992)
Both statements suggest that exactly 24 hours is fine.
Since the second does not contradict the first then I guess 24 hours or less represents a transit in AA's vocabulary. |
I understand the term "within 24 hours" to be equivalent to "up to 24 hours".
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I will let y'all know how this goes. Cathay will be doing the ticketing as they have the first over water segment.
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The reservation system indicates that transit is =<24 hrs.
Code:
1 KA 489B 01DEC 6 TPEHKG*SS1 0800 1000 /DCKA /E |
Outstanding work. Thank you.
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redundant
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Originally Posted by ernestnywang
(Post 19523680)
The "*" means that it is considered a "married segment" (which is for transits only) and the fare calculation also shows HKG as "X" (transit).
The /X in the fare construction instead does positively indicate that this was a transit for fare construction purposes. |
Originally Posted by hillrider
(Post 19527355)
Married connections are airline-specific and have nothing to do with IATA fare construction rules. You should never imply anything from a married segment indicator other than a cancellation that does not involve the full O&D is subject to there being O&D availability on the remaining segments.
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IMO it should be MCT + 24 hours, so that it clearly is just a transit if you are unable to take a once-a-day flight due to MCT rules.
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Originally Posted by MSPeconomist
(Post 19535496)
IMO it should be MCT + 24 hours, so that it clearly is just a transit if you are unable to take a once-a-day flight due to MCT rules.
Code:
1 KA5463Y 01DEC 6 TPEHKG SS1 0610 0755 /DCKA /E |
Originally Posted by ernestnywang
(Post 19535484)
While you are right to say that, AFAIK married segment can never apply to stopovers.
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Originally Posted by MSPeconomist
(Post 19535496)
IMO it should be MCT + 24 hours, so that it clearly is just a transit if you are unable to take a once-a-day flight due to MCT rules.
If there are no outgoing flights within the 24 hour timeframe, then it is not a deliberate interruption and therefore it is not a stopover; however, GDSs don't price this automatically (I believe because when they were programmed it would have been too resource-intensive to perform a schedule check), they simply assume that >24 hours is a stopover, so whomever issues the ticket needs to manually override the stopover in the fare calculation/ticketing command. This rarely happens in the developed world, but can happen in remote areas (I've seen it in the Southern Pacific Islands). |
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