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Originally Posted by almostfrench0612
(Post 27063126)
Was wondering if someone can help me decide if I should make the switch for next year. I will requalify as EXP with travel already booked by end of year. I am SFO based and travel on paid J to Europe about 3-4 times per year and to NY about 3 times also. the rest of my travel is short-haul within California, or to Denver etc and those flights are in discount economy. With the changes to AA I actually on balance probably benefit a bit but wondering if it is not worth switching to UA because of the better nonstop flight options for me from SFO hub. I completed a status match to 1K 2 years ago and decided it was not right for me then but obviously there have been a lot of changes at AA. But it means I won't be able to match again (at least I don't think?) so it would be starting from scratch.
(1) What is most important to you in a FFP? (upgrades on travel, priority services when flying the airline, extra baggage allowance, good award redemption rates, better award access, free - discounted lounge access, etc.) Reply: upgrades, priority, baggage allowance. Access to good award redemption. (2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class? How many flights/sectors? (<25000, 25000-50000, >50000 miles - <25, 25-50, >50 flights?) Reply: about 100k, about 80% in paid J (3) What types of fares do you usually buy? (First, Business, Premium economy, Economy, cheapest) Reply: paid J for distances over 4 hours, discount economy for anything less. (4) Can you choose your airlines and/or class of service? Do you travel for work and/or pleasure? Reply: Yes mostly. Mostly work and only on vacation for pleasure a few times a year. (5) Which routes and airlines do you fly most often? (US Domestic, Transpacific, Kangaroo, in Asia etc) Reply: SFO-Europe (London and Germany mostly), SFO-JFK/EWR and then short-haul every 2 weeks or so. (6) What is your home airport? (SFO, SCL, London LHR, HKG, Singapore SIN etc.) Reply: SFO (7) Do you have FFP status of any kind in OW or other airline? What is it? Do you have any miles banked in a FFP? (AA Executive Platinum, QF Gold, UA 1K, LAN Comodoro, etc) Reply: EXP on AA. (8) Preferred Airlines? Most common Airlines flown on? Reply: right now AA and BA, but I like LH. Not hugely keen on UA product but i have to make a sacrifice somewhere. Bottom line - I know that benefits are pretty similar / sort of a wash for me, but the huge benefit to switching to UA would be access to more nonstop flights (SFO-Hawaii for example, or Puerto Vallarta) when traveling on vacation or to Germany. My question though is whether the redemption is as good vs AA. I find it fairly easy to find award travel to Europe on AA at the saver award level but when I tried to book a ticket to Paris on UA, only one nonstop flight was available during the month of October for example. Is that typical for UA and will I be disappointed with the redemption options if I switch? that is my main concern. It's rather early in the "new" AA scheme to say anything definitive, but in the meantime I wonder if you might not benefit by looking at Alaska Airlines as a possible alternative. AS says its merger with Virgin America will close sometime in the 4th quarter (we'll see) but if you're going to requalify for EXP this year anyway you'd have plenty of time to wait and see. For transcon and regional flying, the VX/AS combination might be very good for someone based in SFO, which of course is VX's base. And if the AS/VX merger keeps current AS partners (which admittedly is a big unknown) as part of the combined mileage plan, that would give you a bunch of Oneworld and Skyteam partners with good coverage out of SFO for award flights - everything from CX to AF. Plus you'd have terrific coverage on the west coast and to Hawaii. Just a thought. |
Abandoning the AA ship
I have lifetime Sapphire status (from AA) and have already qualified for Emerald in 2017 (AA EXP). However, 2018 is a different story - since even if I achieve AA's EQD requrement, I will still earn paltry RDM (and hence award currency) from whatever flights I take if they are credited to AA.
Looking for suggestions on where to credit OW flights from now onwards. Here are my answers to the 'Question': (1) What is most important to you in a FFP? Reply: Upgrades (preferably complimentary) (2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class? How many flights/sectors? Reply: Usually about 130K miles / annum; mix of Business & Economy (3) What types of fares do you usually buy? See (3) above (4) Can you choose your airlines and/or class of service? Do you travel for work and/or pleasure? Reply: Mostly pleasure; can always choose my carrier (5) Which routes and airlines do you fly most often? Reply: Mostly US-Europe, US-Asia (6) What is your home airport? Reply: SJC (7) Do you have FFP status of any kind in OW or other airline? What is it? Do you have any miles banked in a FFP? Reply: AA EXP + UA Premier Platinum (8) Preferred Airlines? Most common Airlines flown on? Reply: Anything other than BA & UA |
Originally Posted by druck
(Post 27069863)
I have lifetime Sapphire status (from AA) and have already qualified for Emerald in 2017 (AA EXP). However, 2018 is a different story - since even if I achieve AA's EQD requrement, I will still earn paltry RDM (and hence award currency) from whatever flights I take if they are credited to AA.
Looking for suggestions on where to credit OW flights from now onwards. Here are my answers to the 'Question': (1) What is most important to you in a FFP? Reply: Upgrades (preferably complimentary) You are not going to get upgrades on AA crediting to another ffp. On non USA airlines always expect to travel in class you buy. Non USA airlines do not give out upgrades (free or with miles/cash) like is common on USA based airlines. USA based airline ffp's tend to be more generous (status benefits/earn/burn/upgrades/award cost/award cash surcharges/expiry/affiliated credit card ff mile earning/promotions) compared to non USA based airline ffp’s (even after the recently announced changes to some USA ffp’s). But if you are not flying the airline of your ffp the useful benefits are somewhat limited. The airline you fly and the airline ffp you credit those flights to does not need to be the same. AS may suit you as AA, DL and many Oneworld airlines, including CX, are partners And again:- The grass in not always greener on the other side |
Originally Posted by Mwenenzi
(Post 27069992)
The grass in not always greener on the other side
You are not going to get upgrades on AA crediting to another ffp. ... I simply indicated that to me, upgrades were the most important feature of a FFP |
Originally Posted by druck
(Post 27069863)
I have lifetime Sapphire status (from AA) and have already qualified for Emerald in 2017 (AA EXP). However, 2018 is a different story - since even if I achieve AA's EQD requrement, I will still earn paltry RDM (and hence award currency) from whatever flights I take if they are credited to AA.
Looking for suggestions on where to credit OW flights from now onwards. Here are my answers to the 'Question': (1) What is most important to you in a FFP? Reply: Upgrades (preferably complimentary) (2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class? How many flights/sectors? Reply: Usually about 130K miles / annum; mix of Business & Economy (3) What types of fares do you usually buy? See (3) above (4) Can you choose your airlines and/or class of service? Do you travel for work and/or pleasure? Reply: Mostly pleasure; can always choose my carrier (5) Which routes and airlines do you fly most often? Reply: Mostly US-Europe, US-Asia (6) What is your home airport? Reply: SJC (7) Do you have FFP status of any kind in OW or other airline? What is it? Do you have any miles banked in a FFP? Reply: AA EXP + UA Premier Platinum (8) Preferred Airlines? Most common Airlines flown on? Reply: Anything other than BA & UA Cathay Pacific might be worth investigating - subject your travel history for a typical year to AsiaMiles/Marco Polo metrics and see how you'd do. CX has been known to give comp upgrades to their elites more than some other airlines. If your annual travel includes both transatlantic and transpacific flights, and you're based in the US, I'm compelled to suggest you give a long look at Oneworld's RTW products. You might find that buying one or more business class RTWs overseas in countries where the prices are lower than the US (some dramatically so) and using them not just for longhaul but domestic flying inside North America, would be a means of flying in premium cabins affordably while accruing elite status in any program you choose. This would hinge on your travel patterns of course, but it might be a fruitful avenue of research. |
Need Help on this
I just recently started taking oneworld flights, and I will be taking quite often in the next 6months. As I'm currently based in Malaysia, most of my flights are MAS. However Enrich requires me to get the minimum requirement before I get to upgrade my tier to silver by Dec 31st, which I definitely unable to. So I was wondering if I can choose one particular FFP, (I'm looking at Qatar Privilege Club), and just clock all my mileage into Qatar PC without taking Qatar Airways to achieve my elite status. Or can someone give me a suggestion on which FFP will be the easiest for me to get oneworld Ruby?
Questions For members asking for information, to help people to assist you, can you please provide: (1) What is most important to you in a FFP? (upgrades on travel, priority services when flying the airline, extra baggage allowance, good award redemption rates, better award access, free - discounted lounge access, etc.) Reply: Priorities in airport (2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class? How many flights/sectors? (<25000, 25000-50000, >50000 miles - <25, 25-50, >50 flights?) Reply: <25000 (3) What types of fares do you usually buy? (First, Business, Premium economy, Economy, cheapest) Reply:Business (4) Can you choose your airlines and/or class of service? Do you travel for work and/or pleasure? Reply: I can choose airlines and class of service. Work and Pleasure (5) Which routes and airlines do you fly most often? (US Domestic, Transpacific, Kangaroo, in Asia etc) Reply: Asia (6) What is your home airport? (SFO, SCL, London LHR, HKG, Singapore SIN etc.) Reply: Penang (7) Do you have FFP status of any kind in OW or other airline? What is it? Do you have any miles banked in a FFP? (AA Executive Platinum, QF Gold, UA 1K, LAN Comodoro, etc) Reply: No (8) Preferred Airlines? Most common Airlines flown on? Reply: No preferred. Most common is MAS or CX |
Questions
For members asking for information, to help people to assist you, can you please provide: (1) What is most important to you in a FFP? (upgrades on travel, priority services when flying the airline, extra baggage allowance, good award redemption rates, better award access, free - discounted lounge access, etc.) Reply: upgrades on travel (2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class? How many flights/sectors? (<25000, 25000-50000, >50000 miles - <25, 25-50, >50 flights?) Reply: >50000 (150 000 miles usually) (3) What types of fares do you usually buy? (First, Business, Premium economy, Economy, cheapest) Reply: Economy (4) Can you choose your airlines and/or class of service? Do you travel for work and/or pleasure? Reply: No cannot choose. Travel for work (5) Which routes and airlines do you fly most often? (US Domestic, Transpacific, Kangaroo, in Asia etc) Reply: Asia to Europe/Africa (6) What is your home airport? (SFO, SCL, London LHR, HKG, Singapore SIN etc.) Reply: Singapore SIN (7) Do you have FFP status of any kind in OW or other airline? What is it? Do you have any miles banked in a FFP? (AA Executive Platinum, QF Gold, UA 1K, LAN Comodoro, etc) Reply: Emirates Silver (8) Preferred Airlines? Most common Airlines flown on? Reply: Qatar (most commonly flown on) Hope anyone can recommend which program to get best milage accumulation for class upgrades. Many thanks |
jamilsayuti Welcome to FT
Originally Posted by jamilsayuti
(Post 27114838)
(1) What is most important to you in a FFP?
(upgrades on travel, priority services when flying the airline, extra baggage allowance, good award redemption rates, better award access, free - discounted lounge access, etc.) Reply: upgrades on travel <snip> Hope anyone can recommend which program to get best mileage accumulation for class upgrades. What is your definition of "best mileage"? Freq flyer are not equal to earn or burn. They are not 1 to 1. Are you a member of the QR ffp? For upgrades the general rule is you can only upgrade a flight marketed (flight number) and operated (metal) by the airline of your frequent flyer programme (no codeshares) with your airlines upgrade instrument (e.g. SWU, miles) or complementary with status (if applicable) or ff miles/cash. All subject to the t&c's of your FFP and your paid ticket. Low cost tickets are often not eligible for upgrades. Cross airline upgrades are uncommon. If cross airline upgrades are offered they tend to require a very expensive base economy fare. Its is only USA based airlines that commonly give out upgrades to their own freq flyer due to status (free) or with miles/cash co pay. The upgrade process with non USA airlines is a lot different. You need to look at the individual ffp. |
Hi guys, I am currently on BA gold. Have been with BA for quite some time. However recently I have started using some of the miles accumulated and noticed that I can barely get any availability and they charge a truck load of miles and on top of that you pay serious $$!!
I usually fly business 90% of the time and the remainder is on first class. (1) What is most important to you in a FFP? (upgrades on travel, priority services when flying the airline, extra baggage allowance, good award redemption rates, better award access, free - discounted lounge access, etc.) Reply: upgrades, priority, baggage allowance. Good award redemption (burn rate) and availability. (2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class? How many flights/sectors? (<25000, 25000-50000, >50000 miles - <25, 25-50, >50 flights?) Reply: about 50k, 90% paid in J and the remainder in F. (3) What types of fares do you usually buy? (First, Business, Premium economy, Economy, cheapest) Reply: Mostly discounted business if viable otherwise J regular fare. Discounted First when available. (4) Can you choose your airlines and/or class of service? Do you travel for work and/or pleasure? Reply: Yes, I choose whatever airlines I want and I choose class of travel. Travel is 80% for work and the rest is holidays with family with award redemption most of the time. (5) Which routes and airlines do you fly most often? (US Domestic, Transpacific, Kangaroo, in Asia etc) Reply: Twice a year BEY-LHR-PHX or BEY-LHR-SFO or BEY-LHR-IAD in club world. Then 4 or 5 times between BEY and Europe on Club as well. Once or twice From Bey to SYD and another city in far east on Club or F. Lastly 3 or 4 trips from BEY to DXB all Business. (6) What is your home airport? (SFO, SCL, London LHR, HKG, Singapore SIN etc.) Reply: BEY (7) Do you have FFP status of any kind in OW or other airline? What is it? Do you have any miles banked in a FFP? (AA Executive Platinum, QF Gold, UA 1K, LAN Comodoro, etc) Reply: Gold on BA. (8) Preferred Airlines? Most common Airlines flown on? Reply: BA for transatlantic and Europe, AA for US domestic. Any of the Gulf airlines and Qantas to far east/Australia. I would like to know if switching to AA I can get more upgrade availably to F when flying transatlantic and cheaper and more available redemption on award flights. Thanks for your help. |
Hello all,
I'm new here and just after some advice please... I current travel quite a lot from Manchester, UK to Scandinavia with work and recently decided to capitalise on this. I have one miles and more however when I fly with Finnair or British Airways my miles are not being claimed as they are part of one world. I’m wondering what you would recommend the best frequent flyer would be for me. (1) What is most important to you in a FFP? (upgrades on travel, priority services when flying the airline, extra baggage allowance, good award redemption rates, better award access, free - discounted lounge access, etc.) Reply: Free flights - for personal use (2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class? How many flights/sectors? (<25000, 25000-50000, >50000 miles - <25, 25-50, >50 flights?) Reply: 25-50 flights (3) What types of fares do you usually buy? (First, Business, Premium economy, Economy, cheapest) Reply: Premium economy, Economy (4) Can you choose your airlines and/or class of service? Do you travel for work and/or pleasure? Reply: I travel for work, however my rewards would be for pleasure, often have limited choice to flight options due to traveling locations (uncommon airports). (5) Which routes and airlines do you fly most often? (US Domestic, Transpacific, Kangaroo, in Asia etc) Reply: Always from UK Manchester to Scandinavia (Sweden, Norway, Finland) and some UK internal flights such as to Aberdeen Airport 6) What is your home airport? (SFO, SCL, London LHR, HKG, Singapore SIN etc.) Reply: MAN - Manchester UK (7) Do you have FFP status of any kind in OW or other airline? What is it? Do you have any miles banked in a FFP? (AA Executive Platinum, QF Gold, UA 1K, LAN Comodoro, etc) Reply: Just joined Miles and More to capitalise when I fly with SAS Airlines (8) Preferred Airlines? Most common Airlines flown on? Reply: BA for most internals, SAS, Finnair Thank you all in advance! |
rjhilton56 Welcome to FT
Originally Posted by rjhilton56
(Post 27155101)
I'm new here and just after some advice please... I current travel quite a lot from Manchester, UK to Scandinavia with work and recently decided to capitalise on this. I have one miles and more however when I fly with Finnair or British Airways my miles are not being claimed as they are part of one world.
I’m wondering what you would recommend the best frequent flyer would be for me. <snip> (8) Preferred Airlines? Most common Airlines flown on? Reply: BA for most internals, SAS, Finnair BA forum is here. It is very active with many good posts. Have a read of the sticky wiki threads http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...tive-club-446/ The airline you fly most or an airline of the country you live is the best ffp for many people. Generally however you are better earning on your primary airline due to greater recognition, better service when disruptions, ability to upgrade flights and possible operational upgrades. Earning miles from non flying activities is easier with an airline of your home country. What are one miles? SAS is part of Star Alliance so to get miles for those flight you need to join a Star Alliance airline ffp. Award flights are not free. All now have real taxes, which can be insignificant to high (UK APD in business/first class). Some ffp's, like BA, have cash surcharges on award flights. For BA economy awards you need to check the cash BA price, price on other airlines and the BA cash surcharge. |
(1) What is most important to you in a FFP?
Award tickets Reply: (2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class? How many flights/sectors? >50.000 <25 Reply: (3) What types of fares do you usually buy? Business Reply: (4) Can you choose your airlines and/or class of service? Do you travel for work and/or pleasure? Reply: I can choose the Airline, but need to pick reasonable business class rates (5) Which routes and airlines do you fly most often? (US Domestic, Transpacific, Kangaroo, in Asia etc) Reply: Brussels - Asia (Vietnam, Seoul, Tokyo, Indonesia) Brussels - USA (6) What is your home airport? Brussels Reply: (7) Do you have FFP status of any kind in OW or other airline? What is it? Do you have any miles banked in a FFP? Miles & More Silver Flying Blue Gold Skywards Silver Reply: (8) Preferred Airlines? Most common Airlines flown on? Reply: I have no preferred airline, because of the variety of destinations, I change airline very often. I have now flights coming up with Finnair to Seoul in J and to Loas Angeles in J with BA, all from Brussels. I have miles stocked with Qatar Privilege Club as well: 120 Qpoints and 21K miles (from a flight from Brussels to Jakarta in J) For my next flights i keep using best the Qatar program or should I consider to start using another program from One World? |
Originally Posted by Remcod
(Post 27167534)
<snip>
(6) What is your home airport? Brussels Reply: (7) Do you have FFP status of any kind in OW or other airline? What is it? Do you have any miles banked in a FFP? Miles & More Silver Flying Blue Gold Skywards Silver Reply: (8) Preferred Airlines? Most common Airlines flown on? Reply: I have no preferred airline, because of the variety of destinations, I change airline very often. I have now flights coming up with Finnair to Seoul in J and to Los Angeles in J with BA, all from Brussels. I have miles stocked with Qatar Privilege Club as well: 120 Qpoints and 21K miles (from a flight from Brussels to Jakarta in J) For my next flights I keep using best the Qatar program or should I consider to start using another program from One World? Miles & More -> LH? (Star Alliance) Flying Blue -> KLM/AF? (Skyteam) Skywards -> EK (non aligned) Privilege Club --> QR (Oneworld) Having multiple ffp’s with low balances is never a good idea. You never get enough ff miles/points to be of use before they expire. FFP’s are for the long term. However at times it makes sense to have a ff membership with an airline in another alliance. (e.g. Oneworld & Star) Some of those ffp's have a hard expiry. That is use the frequent flyer miles or loose them. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/miles...-t-expire.html When do the QR ff points expire and what will use them for? You could build up the QR points with the BA & AY flights and then use them. http://www.wheretocredit.com/ba http://www.wheretocredit.com/ay Then credit to the BA ffp. Being Eu based long term BA may be a better ffp. But has savage surcharges on most, but not all, award flights. USA based airline ffp's tend to be more generous (status benefits/earn/burn/upgrades/award cost/award cash surcharges/expiry/affiliated credit card ff mile earning/promotions) compared to non USA based airline ffp’s (even after the recently announced changes to some USA ffp’s). But if you are not flying the airline of your ffp the useful benefits are somewhat limited. Until a few years ago, the default recommendation for many if flying a range of airlines was a USA based ffp. But with the change of most USA based ffp's to revenue based, flying the airline with best fares and best schedule that matches your requirements now has merit. And treating any ff miles as a bonus that may or may not be able to be used. The airline you fly and the airline ffp you credit those flights to does not need to be the same. The airline you fly most or an airline of the country you live is the best ffp for many people. Generally however you are better earning on your primary airline due to greater recognition, better service when disruptions, ability to upgrade flights and possible operational upgrades. Earning miles from non flying activities is easier with an airline of your home country. |
Originally Posted by Mwenenzi
(Post 27169342)
So you are a member of and have status with
Miles & More -> LH? (Star Alliance) Flying Blue -> KLM/AF? (Skyteam) Skywards -> EK (non aligned) Privilege Club --> QR (Oneworld) Having multiple ffp’s with low balances is never a good idea. You never get enough ff miles/points to be of use before they expire. FFP’s are for the long term. However at times it makes sense to have a ff membership with an airline in another alliance. (e.g. Oneworld & Star) Some of those ffp's have a hard expiry. That is use the frequent flyer miles or loose them. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/miles...-t-expire.html When do the QR ff points expire and what will use them for? You could build up the QR points with the BA & AY flights and then use them. http://www.wheretocredit.com/ba http://www.wheretocredit.com/ay Then credit to the BA ffp. Being Eu based long term BA may be a better ffp. But has savage surcharges on most, but not all, award flights. USA based airline ffp's tend to be more generous (status benefits/earn/burn/upgrades/award cost/award cash surcharges/expiry/affiliated credit card ff mile earning/promotions) compared to non USA based airline ffp’s (even after the recently announced changes to some USA ffp’s). But if you are not flying the airline of your ffp the useful benefits are somewhat limited. Until a few years ago, the default recommendation for many if flying a range of airlines was a USA based ffp. But with the change of most USA based ffp's to revenue based, flying the airline with best fares and best schedule that matches your requirements now has merit. And treating any ff miles as a bonus that may or may not be able to be used. The airline you fly and the airline ffp you credit those flights to does not need to be the same. The airline you fly most or an airline of the country you live is the best ffp for many people. Generally however you are better earning on your primary airline due to greater recognition, better service when disruptions, ability to upgrade flights and possible operational upgrades. Earning miles from non flying activities is easier with an airline of your home country. I am very much aware it is not a good idea to have all these ffp's running (I haven't even mentioned the ones i use to fly Africa :) ) But being Brussels based and flying to so many destinations for work doesn't give much of a choice. The miles at QR only expire in 2019, so still have some time to use them. But for now I am not sure if I should subscribe to the BA ffp for my trips with BA to LAX and Finnair to Seoul, or if I should just stick to the Qatar program. I have the impression the BA ffp is giving more tier points for the trip, or am I wrong? |
Hi new here and I would like to get some opinion:
I am moving to HKG in Oct, although I have Asia Miles, I want to know if I should get MPC at all? Or should I get into JAL or BA? Questions (1) What is most important to you in a FFP? Reply: upgrades on travel, good award redemption rates, better award access (2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class? How many flights/sectors? (<25000, 25000-50000, >50000 miles - <25, 25-50, >50 flights?) Reply: probably close to 50000 miles <25 flights by October 2017 (3) What types of fares do you usually buy? Reply: Economy, cheapest (4) Can you choose your airlines and/or class of service? Do you travel for work and/or pleasure? Reply: Yes. Work and pleasure (5) Which routes and airlines do you fly most often? (US Domestic, Transpacific, Kangaroo, in Asia etc) Reply: UA DL CX HKG to LAX/SFO/SEA/ORD, HKG to KIX/CTS I want to travel much more (anywhere of the world) outside of work. (6) What is your home airport? (SFO, SCL, London LHR, HKG, Singapore SIN etc.) Reply: will be HKG and possibly KIX (Osaka Kansai/Kyoto Japan) (7) Do you have FFP status of any kind in OW or other airline? What is it? Do you have any miles banked in a FFP? Reply: DL almost Gold, Asia Miles basic, UA (8) Preferred Airlines? Most common Airlines flown on? Reply: DL, AA, CX. Anything “non-mainland China”, unless fly into China. Thank you |
currently Emerald with AA, non US resident,
I can make Emerald with almost any OW carrier within 12 months (probably not with CX since there is a reset at every tier). What I value the most is the RDM as I used them for my wife ticket in J, usually 5 RT/ year between Asia - Europe/USA With the new earning system AA put in place, even while I am flying in discount J I won't earn enough miles on AA flights Questions (1) What is most important to you in a FFP? Reply: Earning miles, good award redemption rates, better award access (2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class? How many flights/sectors? (<25000, 25000-50000, >50000 miles - <25, 25-50, >50 flights?) Reply: 100 000 miles, 40 flights (3) What types of fares do you usually buy? Reply: Business, cheapest (4) Can you choose your airlines and/or class of service? Do you travel for work and/or pleasure? Reply: Yes. Work and pleasure (5) Which routes and airlines do you fly most often? (US Domestic, Transpacific, Kangaroo, in Asia etc) Reply: AA, BA, IB, CX Europe to Asia, Europe to US Lots of intra Asia and intra Europe (6) What is your home airport? (SFO, SCL, London LHR, HKG, Singapore SIN etc.) Reply: PVG, HKG, BCN (7) Do you have FFP status of any kind in OW or other airline? What is it? Do you have any miles banked in a FFP? Reply: AA EXP, TK E+ (8) Preferred Airlines? Most common Airlines flown on? Reply: AA, CX, IB, BA, QR, TK Thank you |
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Best Oneworld FF Program??
Hey Everyone,
Just wondering if anyone could help me :confused: 2 of us are travelling with Qatar Airways on the following routes in the next 2 months : CDG - MLE - CDG Qatar Airways First Class Return LHR- HEL - LHR Finnair Economy Class Return HEL - DPS - HEL - Qatar Airways Business Class Return I was just wondering which FF program would be best to register for to maximise my miles for and which program would give more status?? We are both based in London and would be looking to use the miles for a trip next year. Just wanted to know if there is a better FF program than others. I know this has probably been covered but just wanted some advice. Thanks for all replies. |
flyer265 Welcome to FT
What is your definition of best? Will be different to mine. Max ff miles is meaningless, as ff miles are not equal to earn or burn. 10,000 ff miles in 1 ffp may get you a longer award flight than 15,000 ff miles in another ffp. And then there is award cash surcharges with some ffp's/routes/airline. What benefits do you expect from ffp status? If flying paid first or business ffp status tends to give no extra benefits, other than more ff miles. The airline you fly most or an airline of the country you live is the best ffp for many people. Generally however you are better earning on your primary airline due to greater recognition, better service when disruptions, ability to upgrade flights and possible operational upgrades. Earning miles from non flying activities is easier with an airline of your home country. Look and ask here http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/onewo...help-here.html |
Originally Posted by Soly
(Post 27136973)
Hi guys, I am currently on BA gold. Have been with BA for quite some time. However recently I have started using some of the miles accumulated and noticed that I can barely get any availability and they charge a truck load of miles and on top of that you pay serious $$!!
I usually fly business 90% of the time and the remainder is on first class. (1) What is most important to you in a FFP? (upgrades on travel, priority services when flying the airline, extra baggage allowance, good award redemption rates, better award access, free - discounted lounge access, etc.) Reply: upgrades, priority, baggage allowance. Good award redemption (burn rate) and availability. (2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class? How many flights/sectors? (<25000, 25000-50000, >50000 miles - <25, 25-50, >50 flights?) Reply: about 50k, 90% paid in J and the remainder in F. (3) What types of fares do you usually buy? (First, Business, Premium economy, Economy, cheapest) Reply: Mostly discounted business if viable otherwise J regular fare. Discounted First when available. (4) Can you choose your airlines and/or class of service? Do you travel for work and/or pleasure? Reply: Yes, I choose whatever airlines I want and I choose class of travel. Travel is 80% for work and the rest is holidays with family with award redemption most of the time. (5) Which routes and airlines do you fly most often? (US Domestic, Transpacific, Kangaroo, in Asia etc) Reply: Twice a year BEY-LHR-PHX or BEY-LHR-SFO or BEY-LHR-IAD in club world. Then 4 or 5 times between BEY and Europe on Club as well. Once or twice From Bey to SYD and another city in far east on Club or F. Lastly 3 or 4 trips from BEY to DXB all Business. (6) What is your home airport? (SFO, SCL, London LHR, HKG, Singapore SIN etc.) Reply: BEY (7) Do you have FFP status of any kind in OW or other airline? What is it? Do you have any miles banked in a FFP? (AA Executive Platinum, QF Gold, UA 1K, LAN Comodoro, etc) Reply: Gold on BA. (8) Preferred Airlines? Most common Airlines flown on? Reply: BA for transatlantic and Europe, AA for US domestic. Any of the Gulf airlines and Qantas to far east/Australia. I would like to know if switching to AA I can get more upgrade availably to F when flying transatlantic and cheaper and more available redemption on award flights. Thanks for your help. |
Originally Posted by Soly
(Post 27244033)
Can anyone help please?
If you were to switch to AA, under the new AA elite system you might or might not qualify for Platinum (Oneworld Sapphire, equals BA Silver) or Executive Platinum (OW Emerald - BA Gold) depending on how much you fly, but your redeemable miles would depend on how much you spend. Another option is Qatar's FFP, but I'd spend some time looking at their offering (as well as doing the math on AA's new scheme) before switching from BA. Off the top of my head, I think given your wish list (upgrades etc.) you might well end up better off with BA than by starting new with some other airline. |
Hello,
I am currently AA platinum. I am aware of the changes after Aug 1st but I thought the EQM would still depend on the actual miles flown and the redeemable miles would depend on what you spend. Anyway, I don't know if I got it wrong. My EQM posted are low... There are intercontinental and Hawaiian flights, amongst others. If I'm not wrong, before 8/1 this would have been around 50k miles, about 10x what I got now. Did it really become that bad? Here are my August flights, maybe someone could comment whether this seems right or not. Thanks! Starting balance 136,187 Ticket # Date EQMs / EQSs Base miles Bonus miles Total award miles AMERICAN AIRLINES 6267 Y GOT LHR Method: Fare 8/11/16 652 / 1 50 30 80 AMERICAN AIRLINES 0161 Y LAX OGG Method: Fare 8/12/16 2,486 / 1 190 114 304 AMERICAN AIRLINES 0109 Y LHR LAX Method: Fare 8/12/16 5,456 / 1 925 555 1,480 AMERICAN AIRLINES 0620 Y OGG PHX Method: Fare 8/16/16 2,845 / 1 180 108 288 AMERICAN AIRLINES 0465 Y PHX ORD Method: Fare 8/17/16 1,440 / 1 95 57 152 AMERICAN AIRLINES 8081 Y ORD TXL Method: Fare 8/17/16 4,413 / 1 965 579 1,544 AIR BERLIN 8062 Y TXL GOT Method: Distance 8/18/16 250 / 1 91 0 91 AMERICAN AIRLINES 6503 Y DUS LHR Method: Distance 8/23/16 500 / 1 156 94 250 AMERICAN AIRLINES 0057 Y LHR MIA Method: Fare 8/23/16 4,425 / 1 720 432 1,152 Total miles posted 3,372 1,969 5,341 Balance 141,528 |
Originally Posted by KipKe
(Post 27262393)
I am currently AA platinum. I am aware of the changes after Aug 1st but I thought the EQM would still depend on the actual miles flown and the redeemable miles would depend on what you spend. Anyway, I don't know if I got it wrong. My EQM posted are low... There are intercontinental and Hawaiian flights, amongst others. If I'm not wrong, before 8/1 this would have been around 50k miles, about 10x what I got now. Did it really become that bad?
(Also hard to know which of the many AA threads to post in :confused: ) http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...ug-2016-a.html http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...es-2016-a.html http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...2016-a-14.html http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...un-2016-a.html |
Originally Posted by KipKe
(Post 27262393)
Hello,
I am currently AA platinum. I am aware of the changes after Aug 1st but I thought the EQM would still depend on the actual miles flown and the redeemable miles would depend on what you spend. Anyway, I don't know if I got it wrong. My EQM posted are low... There are intercontinental and Hawaiian flights, amongst others. If I'm not wrong, before 8/1 this would have been around 50k miles, about 10x what I got now. Did it really become that bad? Here are my August flights, maybe someone could comment whether this seems right or not. Thanks! Starting balance 136,187 Ticket # Date EQMs / EQSs Base miles Bonus miles Total award miles AMERICAN AIRLINES 6267 Y GOT LHR Method: Fare 8/11/16 652 / 1 50 30 80 AMERICAN AIRLINES 0161 Y LAX OGG Method: Fare 8/12/16 2,486 / 1 190 114 304 AMERICAN AIRLINES 0109 Y LHR LAX Method: Fare 8/12/16 5,456 / 1 925 555 1,480 AMERICAN AIRLINES 0620 Y OGG PHX Method: Fare 8/16/16 2,845 / 1 180 108 288 AMERICAN AIRLINES 0465 Y PHX ORD Method: Fare 8/17/16 1,440 / 1 95 57 152 AMERICAN AIRLINES 8081 Y ORD TXL Method: Fare 8/17/16 4,413 / 1 965 579 1,544 AIR BERLIN 8062 Y TXL GOT Method: Distance 8/18/16 250 / 1 91 0 91 AMERICAN AIRLINES 6503 Y DUS LHR Method: Distance 8/23/16 500 / 1 156 94 250 AMERICAN AIRLINES 0057 Y LHR MIA Method: Fare 8/23/16 4,425 / 1 720 432 1,152 Total miles posted 3,372 1,969 5,341 Balance 141,528 But on AB, you may earn less than that. E.g. you might earn 0.5 EQM, so 0.5 x 500 = 250. See http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...es-2016-a.html |
Originally Posted by JDiver
(Post 27262927)
Unfortunately, though these were flown in the Y cabin fare, we don't know your actual fare classes. For AA you earn 1.0 EQM on all AA marketed fares and as a statusholder earn minima of 500 EQM per segment.
But on AB, you may earn less than that. E.g. you might earn 0.5 EQM, so 0.5 x 500 = 250. See http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...es-2016-a.html For the AB marketed flight this may help (but may not be 100% accurate). You need to find the actual fare booking class in the economy (generic Y) cabin. But (few) AA ff miles you received is likley to to be correct http://www.wheretocredit.com/air-berlin |
Thanks for your answer.
All were AA flights (booked + metal), except that one short AB flight. Where could I see the actual booking class. Isn't Y the booking class? cfr... the AA website says this: Details for earning miles For travel August 1 – December 31, 2016 Cabin Purchased fares booked in** EQMs per mile flown*** Full Fare First/Business F, J 3.00 Discount First/Business A, P, D, I, R 2.00 Economy Y, B, W* 1.50 Economy H, K, M, L, W, V, G, Q, N, O, S 1.00 |
This thread is about Deciding on a Oneworld Frequent Flyer Program?
As your questions are about the AA ffp and the recent changes, questions are better asked on the AA forum, as you have been advised. Some very knowledgeable people on this topic in the AA forum
Originally Posted by KipKe
(Post 27264128)
All were AA flights (booked + metal), except that one short AB flight.
Where could I see the actual booking class. Isn't Y the booking class? www.wheretocredit.com/aa |
I'd love some help please. I have read through this thread but only ended up more confused :)
Flying Cathay. Live in Melbourne. Travel mostly to LHR, via Asia. Economy. Which OneWorld FF airline should I choose? Benefits I'm (eventually) looking for: -Extra checkin baggage. -Lounge access -Chance of upgrade Thanks. |
Originally Posted by Set
(Post 27268191)
I'd love some help please. I have read through this thread but only ended up more confused :)
Flying Cathay. Live in Melbourne. Travel mostly to LHR, via Asia. Economy. Which OneWorld FF airline should I choose? Benefits I'm (eventually) looking for: -Extra checkin baggage. -Lounge access -Chance of upgrade Most of things you want come from status. A few cheapo economy flights will not give that with any ffp |
Right, so is there one airline to choose over another to get to status quicker?
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Originally Posted by Set
(Post 27268256)
Right, so is there one airline to choose over another to get to status quicker?
Most of things you want come from status. A few cheapo economy flights will not give that with any ffp Generally easier to get status on the airline you have freq flyer membership & fly most Again (in case you missed) Read post 1/wiki, post 2 and copy and answer the questions |
I did read, I gave the answers in very short here. I will check again.
I also have a different question, I'm trying to sign up with Cathay Marco Polo, and they want $100 USD for signing up. Does that make sense to anyone? |
Originally Posted by Set
(Post 27268362)
I also have a different question, I'm trying to sign up with Cathay Marco Polo, and they want $100 USD for signing up. Does that make sense to anyone?
Asia Miles & Marco Polo are different but associated. If you sign up for MP you become a Asia Miles member. Look on the Cathay forum stickys for more information. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/catha...polo-club-487/ And http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/catha...hoose-why.html |
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(1) What is most important to you in a FFP?
Primarily: Priority Check-in, Priority Boarding, Economical Upgrades Secondarily: Lounge Access (2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class? How many flights/sectors? 50-70K, about 30 segments. (3) What types of fares do you usually buy? Y (but I'd be willing to treat myself to the occasional C if it would also help my status) (4) Can you choose your airlines and/or class of service? Do you travel for work and/or pleasure? Almost exclusively for pleasure. (5) Which routes and airlines do you fly most often? VIE-LHR and VIE-MXP. VIE-MIA or similar twice per year. Operators are usually OS, BA, AB. (6) What is your home airport? VIE (7) Do you have FFP status of any kind in OW or other airline? What is it? Do you have any miles banked in a FFP? No. I've been mixing all kinds of carriers without giving much thought to rewards programs, but I'd focus on a single program now. (8) Preferred Airlines? Most common Airlines flown on? No preference yet. Most common: OS, BA, AB. I think I could cover basically all of my travel with BA and AB, so I would be looking into a program that would help me achieve the goals of (1) as soon as possible. Thanks in advance for any advice! (Full disclosure: I placed a similar question in the *A forum because I my guess is that *A would fit me more, but obviously I could be wrong). |
(Disclaimer: I posted a similar message in the *A forum because my initial impression is that *A would suit me better. However, I could be wrong, so I hope it's OK if I ask here as well).
(1) What is most important to you in a FFP? Primarily: Priority Check-in, Priority Boarding, Economical Upgrades Secondarily: Lounge Access (2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class? How many flights/sectors? 50-70K over 30-ish segments (3) What types of fares do you usually buy? Y (but I'd be willing to treat myself to the occasional C if it would also help my status) (4) Can you choose your airlines and/or class of service? Do you travel for work and/or pleasure? Almost exclusively for pleasure (5) Which routes and airlines do you fly most often? Mostly within Europe, with one or two intercontinental roundtrips each year (6) What is your home airport? VIE (7) Do you have FFP status of any kind in OW or other airline? What is it? Do you have any miles banked in a FFP? No. I've been mixing all kinds of carriers without giving much thought to rewards programs, but I'd like to focus on a single program now. (8) Preferred Airlines? Most common Airlines flown on? I honestly don't have much preference beyond avoiding low-cost carriers. I currently fly mostly OS and AB because they fly me non-stop to most European destinations. BA would be in third place. Simply put, I don't care too much about award miles (they are a nice plus), I'd rather prefer to achieve a certain status quickly such that it makes my travels more convenient. Thanks in advance for any advice! |
(1) What is most important to you in a FFP?
Redeem award flights in business or first class, extra checked baggage allowance. (2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class? 50-75k, 25% business (Long-haul), 75% economy (Short-haul) (3) What types of fares do you usually buy? (First, Business, Premium economy, Economy, cheapest) Discount biz, Y+ when premium over Y 10-20%, otherwise Y in 50-100% mileage earning fare buckets (4) Can you choose your airlines and/or class of service? Do you travel for work and/or pleasure? Can choose, travel for both, am self-employed. (5) Which routes and airlines do you fly most often? Short-haul: - SIN-HKG, currently on UA - SIN-PEK/PVG, on SQ Long-haul: - SIN-US (Both coasts), mainly on SQ - SIN-EUR, mainly on SQ Please note that I will usually look for discount biz fares to cheapest arrival airport in Europe/USA and/or cheapest departure airport around SIN (KUL, CGK, SGN, BKK, HKG, etc) for the long-haul flights, before I take a quick short-haul hop to my final destination. So cost of ticket is far more important than minimising stops or travel time, and for that reason QR fares look very attractive for Asia-Europe (And v.v.) travel. (6) What is your home airport? (SFO, SCL, London LHR, HKG, Singapore SIN etc.) SIN (7) Do you have FFP status of any kind in OW or other airline? What is it? Do you have any miles banked in a FFP? No status, no significant miles hoarded anywhere. Have Gold status on SQ, but not PPS. (8) Preferred Airlines? Most common Airlines flown on? Most flown on: SQ Other preferred airlines: CX, BR, KE, NH, QR, LX |
Hi everyone,
I am about to start a two years long project with requires monthly travel en route WAW-ATL and I have a puzzle to solve: (1) What is most important to you in a FFP? - upgrades on travel - good award redemption rates - better award access (2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class? 123036 miles: all BA metal, CE+CW ~50000 miles: everything else, mostly economy, no real pattern here. (3) What types of fares do you usually buy? For work: business. For pleasure: economy. (4) Can you choose your airlines and/or class of service? Do you travel for work and/or pleasure? Airline can be freely chosen, for this particular project it will be BA biz (preferred) or KL/AF/DL biz (backup option). (5) Which routes and airlines do you fly most often? In this case: WAW-LHR-ATL on BA (strongly preferred) Alternative: WAW-AMS/CDG-ATL on KL/AF/DL (only when necessary) I travel to USA & Canada once-twice per year for vacation. (6) What is your home airport? WAW: Warsaw, Poland (7) Do you have FFP status of any kind in OW or other airline? What is it? Do you have any miles banked in a FFP? BAEC Bronze with ~60k Avios. (8) Preferred Airlines? Most common Airlines flown on? For the purpose of this calculation: BA. Most common in general: LO. At the moment I am considering the following options: a) credit everything to BAEC. Upside: including bonuses it should result in about 500k Avios per year, with 4 Upgrade vouchers yearly when 2.5k & 3.5k TP thresholds are met. b) credit to BAEC until Gold is reached, then start crediting everything to Alaska Airlines MVP. They seem to have generous rates for BA CW and award-redemption partnership with various airlines across the globe. Also, when I am "forced" to use KL/AF/DL instead of regular BA then I can credit miles to AS MVP account. I enjoy spending vacation in North America, so AS awards & upgrades can come pretty handy. c) credit to BAEC until Gold is reached, then switch to another OW program? No idea which one could be better. - there are no reasonable WAW-ATL connections on *A carriers - all credit card related factors can be dismissed upfront. I will appreciate any help and suggestions. |
Originally Posted by zdeneksme
(Post 27287989)
Hi everyone,
I am about to start a two years long project with requires monthly travel en route WAW-ATL and I have a puzzle to solve: (1) What is most important to you in a FFP? - upgrades on travel - good award redemption rates - better award access (2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class? 123036 miles: all BA metal, CE+CW ~50000 miles: everything else, mostly economy, no real pattern here. (3) What types of fares do you usually buy? For work: business. For pleasure: economy. (4) Can you choose your airlines and/or class of service? Do you travel for work and/or pleasure? Airline can be freely chosen, for this particular project it will be BA biz (preferred) or KL/AF/DL biz (backup option). (5) Which routes and airlines do you fly most often? In this case: WAW-LHR-ATL on BA (strongly preferred) Alternative: WAW-AMS/CDG-ATL on KL/AF/DL (only when necessary) I travel to USA & Canada once-twice per year for vacation. (6) What is your home airport? WAW: Warsaw, Poland (7) Do you have FFP status of any kind in OW or other airline? What is it? Do you have any miles banked in a FFP? BAEC Bronze with ~60k Avios. (8) Preferred Airlines? Most common Airlines flown on? For the purpose of this calculation: BA. Most common in general: LO. At the moment I am considering the following options: a) credit everything to BAEC. Upside: including bonuses it should result in about 500k Avios per year, with 4 Upgrade vouchers yearly when 2.5k & 3.5k TP thresholds are met. b) credit to BAEC until Gold is reached, then start crediting everything to Alaska Airlines MVP. They seem to have generous rates for BA CW and award-redemption partnership with various airlines across the globe. Also, when I am "forced" to use KL/AF/DL instead of regular BA then I can credit miles to AS MVP account. I enjoy spending vacation in North America, so AS awards & upgrades can come pretty handy. c) credit to BAEC until Gold is reached, then switch to another OW program? No idea which one could be better. - there are no reasonable WAW-ATL connections on *A carriers - all credit card related factors can be dismissed upfront. I will appreciate any help and suggestions. |
Hi folks,
I am currently considering to switch to Oneworld as most members from my research group are with Oneworld. I am however undecided which airline to go with. (1) What is most important to you in a FFP? (upgrades on travel, priority services when flying the airline, extra baggage allowance, good award redemption rates, better award access, free - discounted lounge access, etc.) Reply: Upgrades, priority service and lounge access (2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class? How many flights/sectors? (<25000, 25000-50000, >50000 miles - <25, 25-50, >50 flights?) Reply: 25k-50k this year, last year was 75k (3) What types of fares do you usually buy? (First, Business, Premium economy, Economy, cheapest) Reply: Economy (4) Can you choose your airlines and/or class of service? Do you travel for work and/or pleasure? Reply: Free choice of carrier (although expected to go One World from next year), predominantly for work (5) Which routes and airlines do you fly most often? (US Domestic, Transpacific, Kangaroo, in Asia etc) Reply: UK -> Germany and other EU countries, Tanzania, Washington/New York, Hong Kong 6) What is your home airport? (SFO, SCL, London LHR, HKG, Singapore SIN etc.) Reply: EMA (pointless), so BHX, MAN (and sometimes LHR, LCY if need be) (7) Do you have FFP status of any kind in OW or other airline? What is it? Do you have any miles banked in a FFP? (AA Executive Platinum, QF Gold, UA 1K, LAN Comodoro, etc) Reply: UA Gold (8) Preferred Airlines? Most common Airlines flown on? Reply: United, SAS, LH, Brussels at the moment |
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