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michaelyang510 Jul 19, 2013 9:01 pm

(1) What is your home airport? (SFO, SCL, London LHR, HKG, Singapore SIN etc.)
PIT & PVG
(2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class? (<25K, 25k-50k, >50k)
25-50k in economy
(3) What types of fares do you usually buy ? ( First, Business, Economy etc.)
discounted economy
(4) Can you choose your airlines and/or, class of service?. Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
for work
(5) Which routes do you fly most often (US Domestic, Transpacific, Kangaroo, in Asia etc)
transpacific & us domestic
(6) Do you have FFP status of any kind of OW or other airline at present? What is it? (AA Executive Platinum, QF Gold, UA 1K, LAN Comodoro, etc)
CX Asia Miles
(7) What is most important to you in a FFP? (upgrades on travel, priority services when flying the airline, extra baggage allowance, good award redemption rates, better award access, free - discounted lounge access, etc.)
good award redemption rates
(8) Preferred Airlines
CX & AA

Mwenenzi Jul 19, 2013 11:24 pm


Originally Posted by michaelyang510 (Post 21127650)
6) Do you have FFP status of any kind of OW or other airline at present? What is it? (AA Executive Platinum, QF Gold, UA 1K, LAN Comodoro, etc)
CX Asia Miles

What wrong with Asia Miles ffp for you?
Some low $ fare CX marketed tickets will earn very little miles in the AA ffp

michaelyang510 Jul 19, 2013 11:56 pm


Originally Posted by Mwenenzi (Post 21127990)
What wrong with Asia Miles ffp for you?
Some low $ fare CX marketed tickets will earn very little miles in the AA ffp

yea I see
I just want to check if there's any better options, cuz sometimes you have to book redemption tickets a year before you fly in Asia Miles, or there would be no seats at all!

Mwenenzi Jul 20, 2013 12:28 am


Originally Posted by michaelyang510 (Post 21128063)
yea I see
I just want to check if there's any better options, cuz sometimes you have to book redemption tickets a year before you fly in Asia Miles, or there would be no seats at all!

As home is SFO AA is only other options. But if you fly on CX flight numbers check if you can get AA miles. With AA you can get miles from credit cards and other non flying activities. Check the AA web site

JamesBondMI6 Jul 22, 2013 8:52 am

I've made flight with AY 4months ago and plan to credit those miles in some OW program. I looked through OW programs and all gives 100% for Y class ticket. Totally I could get approx 12000Miles.
I was surprised that AY and AA programs credit miles only if I am member before my flight. BA credit miles for flights which are made less than 3months ago.
Now I'm stucked which other OW program to use.
I'd prefer program where for redeeming miles you don't need to pay YQ/YR.
I'd be glad to have those miles and use them in C2 flights or C3 (BKK, SIN, KUL, CGK, HKG) area.

nux Jul 22, 2013 9:01 am


Originally Posted by JamesBondMI6 (Post 21138239)
I've made flight with AY 4months ago and plan to credit those miles in some OW program. I looked through OW programs and all gives 100% for Y class ticket. Totally I could get approx 12000Miles.
I was surprised that AY and AA programs credit miles only if I am member before my flight. BA credit miles for flights which are made less than 3months ago.
Now I'm stucked which other OW program to use.
I'd prefer program where for redeeming miles you don't need to pay YQ/YR.
I'd be glad to have those miles and use them in C2 flights or C3 (BKK, SIN, KUL, CGK, HKG) area.

Qantas will only allow claims 30 days prior to enrolment.
Asia Miles (Cathay) only allows claims one month prior to enrolment.

Cokezero81 Jul 25, 2013 9:38 pm

(1) What is your home airport? (SFO, SCL, London LHR, HKG, Singapore SIN etc.)
Reply: Tokyo (NRT or HND)
(2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class? (<25K, 25k-50k, >50k)
Reply: 25-50k, Y
(3) What types of fares do you usually buy ? ( First, Business, Economy etc.)
Reply: Economy
(4) Can you choose your airlines and/or, class of service?. Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
Reply: Yes. Both, but mainly pleasure.
(5) Which routes do you fly most often (US Domestic, Transpacific, Kangaroo, in Asia etc)
Reply: Tokyo to Europe and Tokyo to Australia.
(6) Do you have FFP status of any kind of OW or other airline at present? What is it? (AA Executive Platinum, QF Gold, UA 1K, LAN Comodoro, etc)
Reply: Member of JAL's FFP, but no status yet I don't think.
(7) What is most important to you in a FFP? (upgrades on travel, priority services when flying the airline, extra baggage allowance, good award redemption rates, better award access, free - discounted lounge access, etc.)
Reply: (i) Good award redemption rates and then (ii) upgrades on travel.
(8) Preferred Airlines
Reply: Qantas, JAL, BA

Thanks!

rednaxela Jul 31, 2013 6:01 am

Good OW redemption programs for HKG-based Y-class flyers?
 
Hi, I came to discover the wealth of information on FT relatively late, but it's been tremendous help since. I apologize if this question has been answered previously, since after some homework reading on the site I have not really found answers to my question.

I'm based in HKG, and my travels are HKG-JFK once a year, HKG-SIN and HKG-NRT once every quarter, with around 2-3 HKG-PEK/SHA every year all on Y-class. On the side, I fly to PEK 5-6 times a year, usually just getting the cheapest tickets (thus often times discount economy).

Basically, I'm trying to decide/maximize my miles between BA/CX MPC/AA (no status at any one of them now). My first priority would be good accrual and reward table so that I can save money on flights to PEK or leisure travel within Asia. Elite status would be a second factor: lounge access and perks such as additional bags would be good when I travel for business.

I was gonna have BA as my primary program for its very good short-haul redemptions (others also mentioned LAN to me, but don't know whether it'll be convenient). For that, I planned to get a local BA co-branded CC.

But I don't think I'd ever make BA elite status for its 4 BA metals requisite. Same seems to apply for AA (although I read that rule is ignored by AA)? Since it sounds a waste for me to put all the miles where I'll never make elite, and given the 4 flights rule by BA and AA, CX MPC seems to be the only bet to elite? Originally I was thinking to accumulate AsiaMiles only when using the miles credit card.

Currently I do have a complimentary MPC membership with my AMEX card, but not sure if it's worthwhile to put the miles just for the status. Or how should I split between MPC and the other two? CX reward tables seem to be very stringent when compared to BA and AA.

I'm trying to figure out what's the best way to do this or are there some other ways/combinations that I could explore? Thanks in advance!

Gardyloo Jul 31, 2013 8:03 am


Originally Posted by rednaxela (Post 21188822)
Hi, I came to discover the wealth of information on FT relatively late, but it's been tremendous help since. I apologize if this question has been answered previously, since after some homework reading on the site I have not really found answers to my question.

I'm based in HKG, and my travels are HKG-JFK once a year, HKG-SIN and HKG-NRT once every quarter, with around 2-3 HKG-PEK/SHA every year all on Y-class. On the side, I fly to PEK 5-6 times a year, usually just getting the cheapest tickets (thus often times discount economy).

Basically, I'm trying to decide/maximize my miles between BA/CX MPC/AA (no status at any one of them now). My first priority would be good accrual and reward table so that I can save money on flights to PEK or leisure travel within Asia. Elite status would be a second factor: lounge access and perks such as additional bags would be good when I travel for business.

I was gonna have BA as my primary program for its very good short-haul redemptions (others also mentioned LAN to me, but don't know whether it'll be convenient). For that, I planned to get a local BA co-branded CC.

But I don't think I'd ever make BA elite status for its 4 BA metals requisite. Same seems to apply for AA (although I read that rule is ignored by AA)? Since it sounds a waste for me to put all the miles where I'll never make elite, and given the 4 flights rule by BA and AA, CX MPC seems to be the only bet to elite? Originally I was thinking to accumulate AsiaMiles only when using the miles credit card.

Currently I do have a complimentary MPC membership with my AMEX card, but not sure if it's worthwhile to put the miles just for the status. Or how should I split between MPC and the other two? CX reward tables seem to be very stringent when compared to BA and AA.

I'm trying to figure out what's the best way to do this or are there some other ways/combinations that I could explore? Thanks in advance!

I'm moving this to the relevant "sticky" thread.

Gardyloo
Oneworld moderator

armagebedar Jul 31, 2013 5:40 pm


Originally Posted by Cokezero81 (Post 21159694)
(1) What is your home airport? (SFO, SCL, London LHR, HKG, Singapore SIN etc.)
Reply: Tokyo (NRT or HND)
(2) How many miles do you usually fly each year &amp; in what class? (&lt;25K, 25k-50k, &gt;50k)
Reply: 25-50k, Y
(3) What types of fares do you usually buy ? ( First, Business, Economy etc.)
Reply: Economy
(4) Can you choose your airlines and/or, class of service?. Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
Reply: Yes. Both, but mainly pleasure.
(5) Which routes do you fly most often (US Domestic, Transpacific, Kangaroo, in Asia etc)
Reply: Tokyo to Europe and Tokyo to Australia.
(6) Do you have FFP status of any kind of OW or other airline at present? What is it? (AA Executive Platinum, QF Gold, UA 1K, LAN Comodoro, etc)
Reply: Member of JAL's FFP, but no status yet I don't think.
(7) What is most important to you in a FFP? (upgrades on travel, priority services when flying the airline, extra baggage allowance, good award redemption rates, better award access, free - discounted lounge access, etc.)
Reply: (i) Good award redemption rates and then (ii) upgrades on travel.
(8) Preferred Airlines
Reply: Qantas, JAL, BA

Thanks!

If you are a resident of Japan and can get a credit card, I would shoot for JAL Global Club (JGC) status. Qualify once (50K FOPs), and as long as you hold the card you'll have OW Sapphire status. The JAL forum has more information.

AddictedTraveller Jul 31, 2013 8:56 pm

Hi All, trying to get my other better half signed up for a Oneworld FFP.

(1) What is your home airport? (SFO, SCL, London LHR, HKG, Singapore SIN etc.)
Reply: SIN
(2) How many miles do you usually fly each year &amp; in what class? (&lt;25K, 25k-50k, &gt;50k)
Reply: 25-50k, Y
(3) What types of fares do you usually buy ? ( First, Business, Economy etc.)
Reply: Economy
(4) Can you choose your airlines and/or, class of service?. Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
Reply: Yes. Both, but mainly pleasure.
(5) Which routes do you fly most often (US Domestic, Transpacific, Kangaroo, in Asia etc)
Reply: SIN - LHR + intra Asia
(6) Do you have FFP status of any kind of OW or other airline at present? What is it? (AA Executive Platinum, QF Gold, UA 1K, LAN Comodoro, etc)
Reply: None
(7) What is most important to you in a FFP? (upgrades on travel, priority services when flying the airline, extra baggage allowance, good award redemption rates, better award access, free - discounted lounge access, etc.)
Reply: (i) Good award redemption rates
(8) Preferred Airlines
Reply: BA, Malaysia, Cathay

Boraxo Aug 1, 2013 6:53 pm

Should I go for status on BA, or simply credit miles to AA where I am unlikely to hit 25k EQP/EQM?

(1) What is your home airport?
Reply: SFO

(2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class?
Reply: <25k on OW

(3) What types of fares do you usually buy ?
Reply: Business for work, Economy for pleasure.

(4) Can you choose your airlines and/or, class of service?. Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
Reply: Not reallly given route structure. Generally fly QF within Australia, BA within UK/Europe, AS to Hawaii/Mexico.

(5) Which routes do you fly most often
Reply: See #4.

(6) Do you have FFP status of any kind of OW or other airline at present? What is it?
Reply: AA Plat (will exp 2/2014), UA 1K. BA Bronze expired 3/2013

(7) What is most important to you in a FFP? (upgrades on travel, priority services when flying the airline, extra baggage allowance, good award redemption rates, better award access, free - discounted lounge access, etc.)
Reply: Lounge access on economy tix, upgrades, priority checkin/security

(8) Preferred Airlines
Reply: BA,QF,AS but would consider AA where it makes sense (SFO-ORD/JFK/MIA)

Mwenenzi Aug 2, 2013 1:12 am


Originally Posted by Boraxo (Post 21199695)
Should I go for status on BA, or simply credit miles to AA where I am unlikely to hit 25k EQP/EQM?

(1) What is your home airport?
Reply: SFO
<snip>
(7) What is most important to you in a FFP? (upgrades on travel, priority services when flying the airline, extra baggage allowance, good award redemption rates, better award access, free - discounted lounge access, etc.)
Reply: Lounge access on economy tix, upgrades, priority checkin/security

(8) Preferred Airlines
Reply: BA, QF, AS but would consider AA where it makes sense (SFO-ORD/JFK/MIA)


Lounge access on economy tix,

Gold & plat status with QF will get you lounge access including in the USA
Equivalent status with AA will not get USA domestic lounge acess
No ideas about BA lounges
Considering the QF earn/burn just buying an annual or 90 day AA lounge membership for cash may be better

Upgrades
The general rule is you can only upgrade a flight marketed (flight number) and operated (metal) by the airline of your freq flyer programe (no codeshares). However as is the way with FFP's there are some (expensive) exceptions with AA/BA.
For USA domestic upgrades AA is the best by far

Anyone living in the USA would be crazy have QF as their main FFP: rewards have high points & high cash surcharges. International upgrades hard to get (lottery). Look at post 412 in this thread. However for some people flying business or first class status can be earned quickly (need 4 QF flights)

jeremyah Aug 8, 2013 5:45 pm

Best One World Frequent flyer program from flying out of Sweden
 
Hey guys,

New to the forum and glad to be onboard!

So my job requires me to fly alot over the world and i have recently signed up to Lufthansas Miles and More program to cover all my Star Alliance flights. Now im looking into cover the One World flights. My first choice was Finnair, but it seems to be quite high rates on using award miles for upgrades and such. So im debating on maybe switching to British Airways instead. Not sure tho! Its quite hard to give much information, since i fly alot and its all over the place pretty much. Im also new to all this frequent flyer deal, so im hoping to get help from the pro's!

So im pretty much wondering what you guys think is the best One World program?


Best,


Jeremy

SeriouslyLost Aug 8, 2013 6:09 pm

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tpsman Aug 8, 2013 7:10 pm

I have been United 1K for the past few years, but with the USAir/AA merger and their leaving Star Alliance for OneWorld, I have to reconsider. All of my miles are with United...

(1) What is your home airport?
Reply: PHX

(2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class?
Reply: Between 100K and 200K, 90% on UA or Star Alliance

(3) What types of fares do you usually buy ?
Reply: Business when travelling internationally, economy when domestic

(4) Can you choose your airlines and/or, class of service?. Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
Reply: Yes I can typically choose the airline. Class of service depends on destination. Most of my travel is for work.

(5) Which routes do you fly most often
Reply: PHX-HKG 4 or 5 times annually. PHX-LHR/FRA 1-2 times annually. PHX-SJC/DFW/MSP/LAX/AUS/??? (Pick one) 10-20 times annually

(6) Do you have FFP status of any kind of OW or other airline at present? What is it?
Reply: UA 1K

(7) What is most important to you in a FFP? (upgrades on travel, priority services when flying the airline, extra baggage allowance, good award redemption rates, better award access, free - discounted lounge access, etc.)
Reply: In order of importance to me: Priority check in, upgrades, award access and rates, lounge access

(8) Preferred Airlines
Reply: Relatively open. I am usually more concerned with upgrades/priority/good service/hardware on the long international legs. Makes me think Cathay?

It was pretty easy to pick United before. Priority with UA meant I got better service and upgrades on their hardware flying to HKG frequently. USAir as a code share partner let me earn miles domestically.

Now I'm not sure. Would any of the airlines in OW do a one-time status match? I'm about to book PHX-HKG, so that may offer some enticement.

rodsren Aug 8, 2013 8:58 pm

Best One World Frequent flyer program from flying out of Sweden
 
AA has 8 upgrades a year for 100k flyers. Only nod I know they can be used multiply continents , just has to be at or under 3 segments , whether they are 5,000 mile deep discount coach segments or fill fare domestic AA metal of 280 miles each( that say Mia-tap would almost certainly in they program get you upgrade 100 hours in advanced with no 500 mold segments ( which are $30 each). You can't best AA for upgrades , etc. finair? I don't think they can compete. Just my 2 cents. Best of luck and many safe travels!

pandaperth Aug 8, 2013 9:26 pm

Welcome to FT jeremyah

This sticky thread in the oneworld forum should get you started(and ignore what rodsren wrote - if you can even understand it ;))

Gardyloo Aug 8, 2013 9:32 pm

I'm moving this to the appropriate sticky thread. Welcome to FT!

Gardyloo
Oneworld moderator

wandering_fred Aug 9, 2013 6:48 am


Originally Posted by jeremyah (Post 21239704)
New to the forum and glad to be onboard!

So my job requires me to fly alot over the world and i have recently signed up to Lufthansas Miles and More program to cover all my Star Alliance flights. Now im looking into cover the One World flights. My first choice was Finnair, but it seems to be quite high rates on using award miles for upgrades and such. So im debating on maybe switching to British Airways instead. Not sure tho! Its quite hard to give much information, since i fly alot and its all over the place pretty much. Im also new to all this frequent flyer deal, so im hoping to get help from the pro's!

So im pretty much wondering what you guys think is the best One World program?

Welcome to FT Jeremy

At least at the moment I think the consensus would be AA has the best earn to burn ratio. I have had no major issues in obtaining award flights with AA or the other partners, though I tend to not book at the last minute.

The BA program is useful to upgrade BA flights but award flights run into fuel surcharge costs. The QF program is more expensive in both earned miles and surcharges for awards but easy to earn status if flying long haul business. The CX program may be harder to earn status but the higher level status members are treated very well. My opinion is award mileage costs there are middle to high, but as with BA upgrades are quite useful.

For the smaller OW members you would need to read (carefully) the relevant program website pages.

Happy wandering

Fred

LucyP Aug 9, 2013 3:59 pm

No one has ever answered this, so I'm going to add some more information and see if anyone can give me a suggestion.

Right now, I have around 20K miles on USAir. I presume that those miles will somehow end up in an AAdvantage account. I have an old AAdvantage account in which my miles have expired. I took big flight in early June, of which one short leg was on AA and one leg on JetBlue. Presumably I can get those miles into the AA account. Is that the best use of them? Is there any advantage to putting them into, say, the British Airways program (which I gather is the only one I can put miles into late, without having a pre-existing account)?

My husband and daughter don't have AAdvantage accounts, so I gather that their miles can only be put into a British Airways account. Am I right? Is there any point in doing so? Like me, they each have around 20K USAirways miles and nothing in any other program.


Originally Posted by LucyP (Post 21126456)
Questions
For members asking for information please help people to assist you, can you provide:
(1) What is your home airport? (SFO, SCL, London LHR, HKG, Singapore SIN etc.)
Reply: RDU
(2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class? (<25K, 25k-50k, >50k) <50K,
Reply: usually <25k, occasionally 25-50k
(3) What types of fares do you usually buy ? ( First, Business, Economy etc.)
Reply: Economy
(4) Can you choose your airlines and/or, class of service? Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
Reply: Can choose airlines but usually not class of service. Travel for both work and pleasure.
(5) Which routes do you fly most often (US Domestic, Transpacific, Kangaroo, in Asia etc)
Reply: US Domestic, recent Transpacific travel and hoping for more.
(6) Do you have FFP status of any kind of OW or other airline at present? What is it? (AA Executive Platinum, QF Gold, UA 1K, LAN Comodoro, etc)
Reply: None. Entirely new to the idea of using FF miles.
(7) What is most important to you in a FFP? (upgrades on travel, priority services when flying the airline, extra baggage allowance, good award redemption rates, better award access, free - discounted lounge access, etc.)
Reply: Good award redemption rates, maybe free/discounted lounge access.
(8) Preferred Airlines
Reply:


bhomburg Aug 10, 2013 6:03 am

You cannot credit JetBlue flights to BAEC at all, and even AAdvantage lets you credit only certain routes (check here), so, short of opening a TrueBlue account and putting them in there (they let you credit flights back up to 90 days) these won't get you anything.

Seeing you're living in the US the US and fly mostly domestic, AA seems to be the logical choice. Although the BA program has its advantages (namely cheap redemptions on short AA domestic routes and the option of household accounts where you can pool miles for the family) if you want to attain status on BA they require four BA flights per year, which, unlike the same on AA, is enforced.

Those US miles will only transfer to AAdvantage when the FFPs merge. If your husband and child don't have AAdvantage accounts they surely will get one created when the program gets rolled over.

LucyP Aug 10, 2013 10:10 am

Thank you so much for your help. Is there any advantage to opening a TrueBlue account and putting the miles in it?

bhomburg Aug 10, 2013 10:38 pm

Well, you cannot put them to use any other way. Their points don't expire, so even when you're an infrequent traveler on them they'll continue to add up for that reward flight one day :)

exc Aug 12, 2013 9:15 pm

Hey guys, as Aeropesos devalue and I've gotten enough for my RTW trip (even after the stupid fare increase), I've decided to start flying the cheapest airline rather than be loyal to S*

Looking for a good Oneworld program to join

Questions
For members asking for information please help people to assist you, can you provide:
(1) What is your home airport? (SFO, SCL, London LHR, HKG, Singapore SIN etc.)
Reply: YYZ (Toronto, Canada), fly frequently to HKG/NRT

(2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class? (<25K, 25k-50k, >50k)
Reply: 25k-50k

(3) What types of fares do you usually buy ? ( First, Business, Economy etc.)
Reply: economy, sometimes (seldomly) business

(4) Can you choose your airlines and/or, class of service?. Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
Reply: Yes, pleasure almost exclusively

(5) Which routes do you fly most often (US Domestic, Transpacific, Kangaroo, in Asia etc)
Reply: To Asia and North America domestic

(6) Do you have FFP status of any kind of OW or other airline at present? What is it? (AA Executive Platinum, QF Gold, UA 1K, LAN Comodoro, etc)
Reply: Air Canada Elite 35k

(7) What is most important to you in a FFP? (upgrades on travel, priority services when flying the airline, extra baggage allowance, good award redemption rates, better award access, free - discounted lounge access, etc.)
Reply: Upgrades/priority service would be nice

(8) Preferred Airlines
Reply: I've only had experience with Cathay, which I enjoyed.

wandering_fred Aug 12, 2013 10:28 pm

@exc

Unless your North American flying is in the really discount fare classes that will never credit (from AA) to CX, I would be very tempted with the CX program. While benefits as a CX Silver are limited mainly to CX flights, those benefits are superior to most of the other entry elite level status of the OneWorld alliance.

As with all things read the program notes on line (Asia Miles) before deciding
I haven't checked (recently) whether WestJet and/or Alaska will credit to CX. If they do, all the better

Happy wandering

Fred

Mwenenzi Aug 13, 2013 12:34 am


Originally Posted by wandering_fred (Post 21261841)
@exc
< snip >
I haven't checked (recently) whether WestJet and/or Alaska will credit to CX. If they do, all the better

The other to consider is Alaska: a good programe with many partners, including CX,AA & DL
http://www.alaskaair.com/content/mil...-overview.aspx

Upgrades
The general rule is you can only upgrade a flight marketed (flight number) and operated (metal) by the airline of your freq flyer programe (no codeshares). However as is the way with FFP's there are some (expensive) exceptions with AA/BA ffp's.

Deinonychus Aug 13, 2013 12:41 pm

(1) What is your home airport? (SFO, SCL, London LHR, HKG, Singapore SIN etc.)
LAX, SNA, ONT, LGB. Any airport in that area.
(2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class? (<25K, 25k-50k, >50k)
It depends. I don't really fly that much, so usually <25K. Might go into the 25K-50K range if our family decides to travel internationally.
(3) What types of fares do you usually buy ? ( First, Business, Economy etc.)
Economy
(4) Can you choose your airlines and/or, class of service?. Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
Yes, I can choose any airline or class of service as long as I can afford it. I travel for pleasure.
(5) Which routes do you fly most often (US Domestic, Transpacific, Kangaroo, in Asia etc)
Domestic
(6) Do you have FFP status of any kind of OW or other airline at present? What is it? (AA Executive Platinum, QF Gold, UA 1K, LAN Comodoro, etc)
No
(7) What is most important to you in a FFP? (upgrades on travel, priority services when flying the airline, extra baggage allowance, good award redemption rates, better award access, free - discounted lounge access, etc.)
Upgrades, redemption rates. Wouldn't mind lounge access and priority services.
(8) Preferred Airlines
None

bhomburg Aug 13, 2013 4:04 pm

I deduct from this you're a family travelling together. I'd look at BAEC; they have a unique pooling feature called "household account" where your whole family can pool miles. Also, they give 100% mileage on all AA booking classes, and, since their redemption is distance-based, using them for (short) domestic redemptions is a good value; better than AA.

Deinonychus Aug 13, 2013 8:01 pm

@bhomburg

Would you say that AA would be second best?

bhomburg Aug 14, 2013 6:57 am

Yes. Being a member in the FFP of your "home" airline comes recommended most of the time, especially since you'll be flying AA most of all oneworld airlines. And AAdvantage is not a bad program at all.
Plus, as US residents, you have a lot of good non-flying AA mileage earning options with their co-branded credit cards (speaking of those, BA also offers CCs in the US - click - something I'd consider when choosing FFPs).
It's just that BA is a good choice for not-really-frequent flying families, especially when redeeming those Avios on non-BA flights where their ridiculous surcharges on award tickets aren't an issue.

Deinonychus Aug 15, 2013 7:28 pm

Thank you very much for your help, bhomburg! :)

rathin100 Aug 16, 2013 12:16 am

Recently moved and change decision point
 
I've recently moved to India... Been with BA in NYC and BKK these many years, now ill fly enough to get top status on a single alliance only and definitely not enough to make GGL on BA I will fly to London twice a year so will have 4 flights in BA but AA. Is out. Please advice on this basis and with following info

(1) home airport: DEL
(2) not sure. Internationally from today to 31 December ned to do DEL-HKG, DEL-PEK DEL-LON. DEL-MNL, DEL-SYD expect this pattern to continue next year as well WEstbound travel mainly to UK and US some brazil, some South Africa

Eastbound everywhere, really. Next year in particular to Australia.

(3) class :business


(4) can choose airline: yes

(5) routes: see above

(6) FFP. *gold and EK gold but will drop both these now

(7) FFP important for: lounge access, upgrades, priority services

Preferred airlines: I only really dislike AA among all the OW. I love MH, UL and CX, quite like QR and BA, am ok with IB, TAM QF Finnair and RJ. The rest I know not.

Thanks in advance for taking the time to advise me!

Kuki Aug 17, 2013 8:01 am

I was a long time AY+ member and changed a few years ago to BAEC, but haven't been totally satisfied with BA's redemption availability and some changes in their program. Is there a better FFP for me?

(1) What is your home airport?
Reply: HEL

(2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class?
Reply: >50k

(3) What types of fares do you usually buy?
Reply: Economy in Europe and Business or First in long-haul flights

(4) Can you choose your airlines and/or, class of service?. Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
Reply: Yes and both

(5) Which routes do you fly most often?
Reply: + 10 flight per/year in Europe, 2 or 3 flights to North America (LAX, SFO, BOS, BGI or MIA) per/year, 1 or 2 flights to Middle East per/year and 2 or 3 flights to Asia (ICN, NRT, SIN, HKG or MNL) per/year

(6) Do you have FFP status of any kind of OW or other airline at present? What is it?
Reply: BA Silver

(7) What is most important to you in a FFP?
Reply: Lounge Access, Redemption rates and availability, Fast tracks, Upgrades and Extra baggage allowance

(8) Preferred Airlines?
Reply: None. Of course CX and Malaysian are always very good options ^

Edit: And it would be a BIG PLUS if American Express works with the FFP.

CdnSophia Aug 21, 2013 1:53 am

FFP Help - all over the place
 
Hello Flyertalk!

While I'm trying to get the online booking tool to work so I can purchase my LONE5, I realized it'd be a good idea to pick a FFP to join first!

Our intended route is (pending availability and success on the booking tool..)

AKL- HKG (CX)
HKG- KTM - HKG (KA)
HKG -JNB (CX)
JNB-CPT (BA)
CPT-LHR (BA)
LHR-IST (BA)
IST-AMM (RJ)
AMM-DME (RJ)
DME -MAD (IB)
MAD-GRU (IB)
GRU-LIM (LAN)
LIM-SCL (LAN)
SCL - IPC-SCL (LAN)
SCL-AKL (QF)


Questions:

(1) What is your home airport? YVR, Canada

(2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class? L class, mileage varies. YVR to HNL for simple holidays.

(3) What types of fares do you usually buy ? Economy

(4) Can you choose your airlines and/or, class of service? I can choose - usually fly the cheapest and/or most convenient times

(5) Which routes do you fly most often (US Domestic, Transpacific, Kangaroo, in Asia etc)
Reply: Canada and USA

(6) Do you have FFP status of any kind of OW or other airline at present? What is it? just signed up with Aeroplan

(7) What is most important to you in a FFP? (upgrades on travel, priority services when flying the airline, extra baggage allowance, good award redemption rates, better award access, free - discounted lounge access, etc.)
Reply: Upgrades, redemption/burn rates

(8) Preferred Airlines
Reply: Air Canada, but could be any carrier.


My initial thought was to go with AA since I've read a lot of good reviews of the program here. My concern is that AA doesn't seem to be the best point accumulator based on my flights above. Earning zero miles from the CX flights, .25 from BA, .3 from IB and .5 from QF seems like such a waste!

I'm wondering, would it be worthwhile to sign up for LA or CX to accumulate, then convert to AA when i'm ready to redeem?

Your advice would be much appreciated!

Thanks in advance!

Sophia

mdmm Sep 3, 2013 11:22 am

LX/LH*G moving to Australia
 
Hi guys,

looks like really great stuff you're doing here. Would love to get your thoughts on this: I have been a LX/LH Senator now for a couple of years now and am moving to Sydney for the next months/year.

Questions
(1) What is your home airport? (will be SYD)
(2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class? (~75K in 2013 so far, 50/50 Eco/Bus)
(3) What types of fares do you usually buy ? (50/50 Eco/Bus)
(4) Can you choose your airlines and/or, class of service?. Do you travel for work and/or pleasure? (Choose airlines yes, class depends on price, 70% work, 30% pleasure)
(5) Which routes do you fly most often (expecting mostly domestic Australia for work/SE Asia privately)
(6) Do you have FFP status of any kind of OW or other airline at present? What is it? (LX/LH Senator)
(7) What is most important to you in a FFP? (upgrades on travel, priority services e.g. boarding when flying the airline)
(8) Preferred Airlines (so far *A ;-))

*A is pretty irrelevant in Australia it appears, so I'm thinking of switching to oneworld for the time (SEN is safe for a while). I've got an MH flight in Z (Bus promo) in ~2 weeks to get there, return sometime in 2014 if that's good for a start/promo.

Any thoughts?

Cheers

Mwenenzi Sep 3, 2013 4:13 pm

Welcome to the forum and Australia

Originally Posted by mdmm (Post 21382328)
..Looks like really great stuff you're doing here. Would love to get your thoughts on this: I have been a LX/LH Senator now for a couple of years now and am moving to Sydney for the next months/year.

Questions
(1) What is your home airport? (will be SYD)
< snip >

Is Europe home for the long term ? (guessing based on your LX/LH Senator status)

If you are only going to live Australia for only a year QF is not you. So look at AA or even BA. AA has low miles for awards & no YQ, except in BA flights. QR is to join OneWorld soon (1st Oct?). But the details of the enhanced QR ffp with OW have not been published, but from the QR forum the ffp it is changing.

For upgrades the general rule is you can only upgrade a flight marketed (flight number) and operated (metal) by the airline of your freq flyer programe (no codeshares). QF upgrades are not confirmed until soon before the flight (a lottery). However as is the way with FFP's there are some (expensive) upgrade exceptions with AA/BA/IB with higher priced ecomony fares.

Toli Sep 4, 2013 2:35 am

Quick choice for an EU-Australia trip in C
 
Hello,

Haven't visited here in a while as I don't fly for work any more, only on my own dime which goes mostly to the low-cost carriers. Therefore I am a little out of touch with what's in right now (last time it was Aegean for quick status achievement).

My friend who is based in Germany is flying to Australia and back within a week or so, in C. He's not much into miles but I advised him not to let the miles from such a long trip be wasted

Thus my question - which OneWorld programme would be most useful to him in terms of redemption (which would put LH out of question - although I find their Worldshop awards, albeit overpriced, a tolerable way to burn miles). TK? A3? Status would be nice but I understand that he doesn't fly that often either to make use of it.

Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance.

wandering_fred Sep 4, 2013 3:29 am


Originally Posted by Toli (Post 21385949)
...
My friend who is based in Germany is flying to Australia and back within a week or so, in C. He's not much into miles but I advised him not to let the miles from such a long trip be wasted
Thus my question - which OneWorld programme would be most useful to him in terms of redemption ...

Any thoughts?
Thanks in advance.

Well, it depends on where your friend actually starts and ends the flight to Australia. LHR-SIN-SYD is just about 10K miles. Add a bit on the start and end...

I suspect that there won't be too much opposition to my suggestion that AA has the best OneWorld redemption terms. And the round trip in C/J should provide AA Gold (OW Ruby) status (about 30K EQP) with about 25K RDM to fly/upgrade. Maybe if CX/MH is the carrier being used I would look at their respective programs. But would need to calculate the expected miles (CX needs 30K credit - 24K in J for CX Silver)

Other thoughts?

Happy wandering

Fred

Toli Sep 5, 2013 1:49 am


Originally Posted by wandering_fred (Post 21386059)
Well, it depends on where your friend actually starts and ends the flight to Australia. LHR-SIN-SYD is just about 10K miles. Add a bit on the start and end...

I suspect that there won't be too much opposition to my suggestion that AA has the best OneWorld redemption terms. And the round trip in C/J should provide AA Gold (OW Ruby) status (about 30K EQP) with about 25K RDM to fly/upgrade. Maybe if CX/MH is the carrier being used I would look at their respective programs. But would need to calculate the expected miles (CX needs 30K credit - 24K in J for CX Silver)

Thank you for your thoughts Fred.

He would be starting in, and returning to, Germany (don't think he has the freedom to stick on segments). It appears that he'd fly QF or EK.

I understand that redeeming AA points on intra-European flights would not be too difficult? Do they still have a policy of low to no surcharges on awards?


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