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Originally Posted by HIDDY
(Post 17064447)
LH are welcome to buy TAP. I don't see the IAG interest in them being a serious one despite my earlier tongue in cheek comment.
All they can offer IAG is lot of routes to Brazil mainly used by the leisure market and nowt much else. |
Originally Posted by ByrdluvsAWACO
(Post 17164344)
If LATAM definitely stays in OW, I just don't see how the EU will approve of IAG buying TP. It will give OW and insane amount of pricing power from the Iberian peninsula to S America. Combining AA, LATAM, IB and TP would be nearly monopolistic.
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Slightly adjusting the topic:
What does the provision of the Chilean government's approval that requires LAN and TAM to open their FF programs to other airlines mean for oneworld? If smaller rivals participate in the program, would they be treated as oneworld affiliates? Is this provision meaningful or can LATAM make up whatever participation requirements and conditions they want, effectively closing the program to outside airlines? Sorry, I haven't seen a good explanation of the provision, since my Spanish is quite poor and my vague notion of what something says in Portuguese is based on its similarity to Spanish. |
Originally Posted by CXBA
(Post 17164584)
but if they are bought by LH this would increase their already unhealthy stranglehold they have in CE market, although I doubt the clowns running EU antitrust would give more than a cursory glance.
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Originally Posted by Ambraciot
(Post 17328449)
Slightly adjusting the topic:
What does the provision of the Chilean government's approval that requires LAN and TAM to open their FF programs to other airlines mean for oneworld? In theory, G3 could take advantage of it, but I suspect the Brazilian govt would have something to say about that. Based on stated routes like MVD-SCL, Pluna (PU) could make such a request.
Originally Posted by Ambraciot
(Post 17328449)
If smaller rivals participate in the program, would they be treated as oneworld affiliates?
Participating in LANPass and being an affiliate are two different things. For instance, OpenSkies(EC) participates in BAEC, but is not a OW affiliate member.
Originally Posted by Ambraciot
(Post 17328449)
Is this provision meaningful or can LATAM make up whatever participation requirements and conditions they want, effectively closing the program to outside airlines?
If ... an airline ... ask to participate in the Frequent Flyer Program of Latam, the latter shall extend for five years all those benefits. " Based on that, I would imagine that LA has little ability to restrict participation of any airline that qualifies under the stated provision. |
Now approved by Brazil
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-16191762
Latin America's biggest airline LATAM is approved ... The merger of two major Latin American airlines has been approved, creating the largest carrier in the region. Brazil's anti-trust authorities said they approved the merger of the Brazilian airline TAM with Chile's LAN, first proposed in 2010. ... |
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Originally Posted by 31dany
(Post 17630973)
This should be interesting...
Brazil's body also set some conditions, including a reduction in the number of flights between Sao Paulo and Santiago and that the two airlines join a single international body. Happy Travels. |
Originally Posted by NDFan
(Post 17631023)
Expect some heavy lobbying from Oneworld and Star. Hopefully the fact that LAN has been part of Oneworld much longer than TAM has been part of Star, will swing them our way. Happy Travels. Odds are very much in favor of LATAM going to OW, IMO. ^ |
Originally Posted by Paulchili
(Post 17632243)
It also stated that it has to be a different Alliance from Taca/Avianca (currently in *A). I can't see *A kicking out Taca in hopes of getting LATAM.
Odds are very much in favor of LATAM going to OW, IMO. ^ LATAM would be more valuable than Taca/Avianca for either alliance. I hope OW is able to get/keep them, it would be a HUGE blow to OW if LATAM left. |
Originally Posted by NDFan
(Post 17631023)
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Expect some heavy lobbying from Oneworld and Star. Hopefully the fact that LAN has been part of Oneworld much longer than TAM has been part of Star, will swing them our way. ...
Originally Posted by Paulchili
(Post 17632243)
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Odds are very much in favor of LATAM going to OW, IMO. ^
Originally Posted by rajuabju
(Post 17634556)
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I hope OW is able to get/keep them, it would be a HUGE blow to OW if LATAM left. To summarise, LA & TAM now has three separate options: A. Cancel the Merger or B. Join oneworld C. Join Skyteam Either A or C are extremely unlikely. |
Originally Posted by serfty
(Post 17636274)
See September posts after the Chilean decision from this thread (#26 and #28).
To summarise, LA & TAM now has three separate options: A. Cancel the Merger or B. Join oneworld C. Join Skyteam Either A or C are extremely unlikely. |
Gol is on its way to skyteam.
TACA/Aviance will be in Star. Latam is mostly likely to stay in oneworld. But TAP would be in a tricky situation. |
Originally Posted by chongcao
(Post 17643413)
Gol is on its way to skyteam.
So I don't see how Argentna would allow both of them to be in the same alliance (unless Argentina doesn't care about such things the way their neighbor countries do). |
Originally Posted by sdsearch
(Post 17647756)
As is Aerolinas Argentinas (AR), which si the only other major airlne in Argentina besides LAN. (Both have subsidiaries for intra-Argentina flights.)
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