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Baggage now 23kgs and not PC
Maybe old news, but I just bought a xCIRCxx and noticed the baggage is 2x23 kgs and not PC. Rules for xONEx are the same. I presume this is the latest enhancement?
Also noticed that all of Russia (east and west of the Urals) is "Europe" |
xCIRCxx does not involve the Americas, so PC does not apply. PC only applies to itineraries involving the Americas. I don't think there is any change to the rule.
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xCIRCxx contains America.
23kgx2 is a modified PCs, 2 pieces of 23kg instead of 32kg. http://www.oneworld.com/content/libr...rule_sheet.pdf says Two free pieces of 23 kilos each shall be permitted. Additional allowance may apply. Refer to individual carrier websites. Some airlines permit only 23kg x 2 for economy class. Almost(all ?) of airlines permits 32kg x 2 for business/first classes for amrican routes. So, a little complicated description is used. |
Originally Posted by ernestnywang
(Post 14279662)
xCIRCxx does not involve the Americas, so PC does not apply. PC only applies to itineraries involving the Americas. I don't think there is any change to the rule.
Originally Posted by OWE rules
Two free pieces of 23 kilos each shall be permitted. Additional allowances may
apply. Refer to individual carrier websites. Dave |
Originally Posted by ernestnywang
(Post 14279662)
xCIRCxx does not involve the Americas, so PC does not apply. PC only applies to itineraries involving the Americas. I don't think there is any change to the rule.
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OT.
Urals ref obviously planning for S7 joining oneworld. Also reference in section 4h of OWE Rules that you can only have two segments flying over the Urals. |
Originally Posted by Wasabi Tofu
(Post 14279774)
Some airlines permit only 23kg x 2 for economy class.
Almost(all ?) of airlines permits 32kg x 2 for business/first classes for amrican routes. So, a little complicated description is used. |
Originally Posted by DownUnderFlyer
(Post 14282854)
Indeed. This is likely to result in lots of discussions at check-in with the agent saying the ticket only says 23kg per bag and us saying that the airline website says 32kg per bag.
Dave |
Originally Posted by Dave Noble
(Post 14283426)
If you plan for that which is specified as being the allowance for the ticket , then no problems
Dave |
Oops...I mistakenly thought that OP means xONEWCx. Sorry...
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Originally Posted by DownUnderFlyer
(Post 14284472)
But the ticket says its 23kg or more depending on what some websites say which will lead to problems if you have a bag with 25kg.
If the specified ticketed allowance is 2 x 23Kg then there should be no problem as long as stay within 2 x 23Kg |
Originally Posted by Dave Noble
(Post 14286559)
If the specified ticketed allowance is 2 x 23Kg then there should be no problem as long as stay within 2 x 23Kg
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I speculate that this new rule was written for L class tickets. I suggest that there might be a later addition to cover an increased allowance for D and A classes.
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Originally Posted by DownUnderFlyer
(Post 14288720)
Sure, the trivial case will be the easyone . Its the more complicated ones which will cause the issues. Like always in life.
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Originally Posted by og
(Post 14288985)
I speculate that this new rule was written for L class tickets. I suggest that there might be a later addition to cover an increased allowance for D and A classes.
2x23Kg meets the lowest common deonominator. Anything beyond that is at airline discretion |
I find this new text far better than what had been defined recently.
For the last few years the rule was written: Baggage regulations - the piece system applies to passengers travelling on a oneworld Explorer fare. Baggage regulations Two free pieces of 23 kilos each shall be permitted. Additional allowances may apply. Refer to individual carrier websites. Oh, and by the way - it still is designating a "Piece System". |
Originally Posted by Dave Noble
(Post 14289110)
If you take luggage over the 23Kg or more than 3 pieces and you get charged excess baggage fees, then that's a risk you are taking yourself
The luggage allowance is still the same as it was before, the wording now just opens one more avenue for a discussion. |
Originally Posted by serfty
(Post 14289511)
As posted, any allowance above that 2 x 23Kg would be generally segment based and a function of your travel class, your status (with the operating carrier) and any other factor as denoted by the operating carrier.
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Originally Posted by DownUnderFlyer
(Post 14291012)
Any weight per bag restriction has always been segment based so this has not changed.
In fact nothing really has changed, except for the 23Kg being indicated. (And possibly the mention of 2 PCS, although this was generally the default in any case) |
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