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Himeno Apr 2, 2010 10:23 pm
Distance?
 
I'm working out the distance for a mileage limited oneworld ticket. MileageMonkey and Great Circle Mapper are saying different things?

SYD-NRT-ngo-NRT-sin-per-MEL-cbr
MM says 13003 miles
GCM says 12987 mi
ticket limit is 13000. Which is more correct?

Kiwi Flyer Apr 2, 2010 10:27 pm
Call QFF and ask. The FFP is the arbitrator not some internet website.

JALPak Apr 3, 2010 10:06 pm
If they use IATA TPM (International Air Transport Association Ticketing Point Mileage). You can check it out on JAL website

https://www121.jal.co.jp/JmbWeb/JR/SectionMile_en.do

KVS Apr 3, 2010 10:39 pm
Originally Posted by Himeno (Post 13700980)
I'm working out the distance for a mileage limited oneworld ticket. MileageMonkey and Great Circle Mapper are saying different things?

SYD-NRT-ngo-NRT-sin-per-MEL-cbr
MM says 13003 miles
GCM says 12987 mi
ticket limit is 13000. Which is more correct?
The total official TPM for your routing is 12961 miles:

[KVS Availability Tool 5.4.2/Diamond - Reference: Maximum Permitted Mileage [MPM]: SYD-NRT-NGO-NRT-SIN-PER-MEL-CBR]
Code:
                                                               
***INTERMEDIATE CITY TRANSITED MORE THAN ONCE***               
CTY  DC  TPM  CUM  MPM  DC SUR  HGL  LWL  25M  XTRA     
SYD 3                                                         
TYO 3 EH  4859  4859  5835  EH  0M  976    0  7293    0     
NGO 3 EH  193  5052  5820  EH  0M  768    0  7275    0     
TYO 3 EH  193  5245  5835  EH  0M  590    0  7293    0     
SIN 3 EH  3312  8557  4694  EH EXC    0  2690  5867    0     
PER 3 EH  2431 10988  **MPM NOT AVAILABLE**                   
MEL 3 EH  1681 12669  **MPM NOT AVAILABLE**                   
CBR 3 EH  292 12961  **MPM NOT AVAILABLE**

JALPak Apr 3, 2010 11:22 pm
Originally Posted by KVS (Post 13705210)
The total official TPM for your routing is 12961 miles:

[KVS Availability Tool 5.4.2/Diamond - Reference: Maximum Permitted Mileage [MPM]: SYD-NRT-NGO-NRT-SIN-PER-MEL-CBR]
Code:
                                                               
***INTERMEDIATE CITY TRANSITED MORE THAN ONCE***               
CTY  DC  TPM  CUM  MPM  DC SUR  HGL  LWL  25M  XTRA     
SYD 3                                                         
TYO 3 EH  4859  4859  5835  EH  0M  976    0  7293    0     
NGO 3 EH  193  5052  5820  EH  0M  768    0  7275    0     
TYO 3 EH  193  5245  5835  EH  0M  590    0  7293    0     
SIN 3 EH  3312  8557  4694  EH EXC    0  2690  5867    0     
PER 3 EH  2431 10988  **MPM NOT AVAILABLE**                   
MEL 3 EH  1681 12669  **MPM NOT AVAILABLE**                   
CBR 3 EH  292 12961  **MPM NOT AVAILABLE**
Interesting...JAL's tool says 12,971!

I got
4,863 for SYD-TYO
1,670 for PER-MEL
309 for MEL-CBR

The rest are the same

moa999 Apr 3, 2010 11:44 pm
In terms of giving points, QFF is SIN-NRT at 3,334
(query if using city codes rather than airport codes makes a difference?)

JALPak Apr 4, 2010 1:15 am
Originally Posted by moa999 (Post 13705399)
In terms of giving points, QFF is SIN-NRT at 3,334
(query if using city codes rather than airport codes makes a difference?)
For TPM, city codes are used not airports'

Kiwi Flyer Apr 4, 2010 3:17 am
QFF has its own mileage figures. The only definitive answer is by calling them.

DownUnderFlyer Apr 4, 2010 6:34 am
Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer (Post 13705785)
QFF has its own mileage figures. The only definitive answer is by calling them.
Correct. They consider MIA-ORD to be more than 1200 miles even so many tools show them to be below the threshold.

Dave Noble Apr 4, 2010 12:40 pm
Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer (Post 13700997)
Call QFF and ask. The FFP is the arbitrator not some internet website.
Are you sure that the OP wants to use miles for the booking rather than purchasing , say, a 13k Circle Asia and South West Pacific ticket? If it is the latter there are other purchasing locations other than QF and JL's tool of 12,971 would seem that could be purchased from JL or even purchase via the AA ATW desk ( as I have arranged for the Asia tickets for some friends )

Himeno Apr 5, 2010 4:03 am
Originally Posted by Dave Noble (Post 13707622)
... rather than purchasing , say, a 13k Circle Asia and South West Pacific ticket?
That's right.


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