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brenc3 Feb 10, 2010 1:18 pm


Originally Posted by Supersonic Swinger (Post 13362745)
- Malaysian (supposedly they've been looking at SkyTeam, what a way to get back at them for JAL by bringing them into OW)

Sorry if this has been mentioned, but MH is slightly better picking at the moment since Garuda Indonesia is in the process of joining Skyteam. Not impossible that MH would join as well, but it would be nice if OW could make a move. Maybe some of AA's $1bn+ kicking around...?

kiwiandrew Feb 10, 2010 1:41 pm


Originally Posted by Supersonic Swinger (Post 13362745)
Me in post 33 of this thread - unfortunately in that earnings call he didn't mention any specific airlines.

My wish list (pure wishes) of new OW members would include:


- Jet or Kingfisher in India
- Hainan for some hubs in China

I would have thought Kingfisher is the more likely candidate as they are already on the Global Explorer fare .

Hainan I would think as a very good possibility - there was a rumour ( way back before the whole JL/Skyteam distraction ) that JL wanted to sponsor them into Oneworld .

ernestnywang Feb 10, 2010 2:31 pm

Air Berlin would indeed be a nice addition. Since Deutsche BA used to be an oneworld affilate, it is not a bad idea to get it back. Hainan would be nice, but, given their presence in HKG by controlling Hongkong Airlines and Hongkong Express, I doubt that Cathay would be happy about it.

CXBA Feb 10, 2010 2:53 pm


Originally Posted by ernestnywang (Post 13365920)
Air Berlin would indeed be a nice addition. Since Deutsche BA used to be an oneworld affilate, it is not a bad idea to get it back. Hainan would be nice, but, given their presence in HKG by controlling Hongkong Airlines and Hongkong Express, I doubt that Cathay would be happy about it.

HK Airlines and HK Express are minnows compared to CX and if memory serves me well, they are kind of LCCs serving a slew of destinations in mainland China I doubt KA notices them. Their only relevant contribution so far seems their attempts to cross CX airliners during landing/takeoff at HKIA :D

brenc3 Feb 10, 2010 5:20 pm

There was also a rumor at one point that Hainan was going to start service BOS-PEK or PVG (which would be the only service from BOS to Asia). It was reported in the paper but never materialized. Now that would be a nice addition to OW.

http://www.boston.com/news/world/asi...gan_and_china/
(clearly this never happened)

Dr. HFH Feb 10, 2010 9:11 pm


Originally Posted by brenc3 (Post 13367115)
There was also a rumor at one point that Hainan was going to start service BOS-PEK or PVG (which would be the only service from BOS to Asia). It was reported in the paper but never materialized. Now that would be a nice addition to OW.

Anytime that CX wants to add BOS-HKG service, that's fine with me.

Supersonic Swinger Feb 11, 2010 9:19 pm


Originally Posted by brenc3 (Post 13365334)
Sorry if this has been mentioned, but MH is slightly better picking at the moment since Garuda Indonesia is in the process of joining Skyteam. Not impossible that MH would join as well, but it would be nice if OW could make a move. Maybe some of AA's $1bn+ kicking around...?

As an option for SE Asia, MH would be a fantastic addition.

For what it's worth i.e. probably not too much, Wikipedia currently lists as possibles only:

- China Eastern (and thus Shanghai Airlines)
- Grand China Air
- Jet Airways
- Kingfisher Airways
- Westjet (!)

Himeno Feb 11, 2010 10:57 pm


Originally Posted by Supersonic Swinger (Post 13375191)
As an option for SE Asia, MH would be a fantastic addition.

For what it's worth i.e. probably not too much, Wikipedia currently lists as possibles only:

- China Eastern (and thus Shanghai Airlines)
- Grand China Air
- Jet Airways
- Kingfisher Airways
- Westjet (!)

It is wikipedia. People add and remove whatever they want.

Supersonic Swinger Feb 11, 2010 11:21 pm


Originally Posted by Himeno (Post 13375627)
It is wikipedia. People add and remove whatever they want.

Agreed, but I don't know of any other listing of potential new members.

If you can point me to somewhere that, using cited credible sources, lists Air Berlin, Alaska, China Eastern, Gol, Grand China Air, Kingfisher or Jet and Malaysian to join and South African, Korean or Asiana to leave their respective alliances for OW, I'd be more than happy to use that instead!

globalguy Feb 12, 2010 10:31 pm

I go to Bordeaux and getting there from DFW on OW is tough. Connex thru MAD causes a long layover; or you get into the LHR/LGW airport transfer in London, which no one does. Or you do the AA/AF interline via CDG. As alliances go, ST and SA have far better options to many European destinations.

toyotaboy95 Feb 12, 2010 11:57 pm


Originally Posted by Dr. HFH (Post 13368257)
Anytime that CX wants to add BOS-HKG service, that's fine with me.

+1. BOS really has a large HK and Taiwanese-backed Chinese population. Usually, choices to fly to HKG are BOS-JFK on AA and JFK-HKG on CX OR UA.

But...I don't think BOS has sufficient F/J demand for the 77A...:(

kebosabi Feb 13, 2010 3:33 pm


Originally Posted by globalguy (Post 13381972)
I go to Bordeaux and getting there from DFW on OW is tough. Connex thru MAD causes a long layover; or you get into the LHR/LGW airport transfer in London, which no one does. Or you do the AA/AF interline via CDG. As alliances go, ST and SA have far better options to many European destinations.

Have you tried using the often overlooked AA-codeshares with the French TGV? You might want to look into that option: AA to CDG, CDG to Bordeaux St Jean on TGV.

In my experience air-to-HSR actually gets there equally fast because there's less time involved in waiting for your connecting flight. Plus when you arrive, you're already in the heart of Bordeaux. ^

http://www.aa.com/i18n/aboutUs/codes...tners/SNCF.jsp

Gardyloo Feb 13, 2010 7:12 pm

Well it sounds like there will be a couple of ex-LHR AA/BA slots at BOS, so who knows...

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...plication.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...operation.html

globalguy Feb 13, 2010 10:47 pm

Hey, thanks kebosabi, I never thought of that. I have taken the TGV btw Bordeaux and Paris or Lille, moving back and forth, but never in conjunction with a flight.

kebosabi Feb 17, 2010 5:57 pm


Originally Posted by globalguy (Post 13386486)
Hey, thanks kebosabi, I never thought of that. I have taken the TGV btw Bordeaux and Paris or Lille, moving back and forth, but never in conjunction with a flight.

No problem. It's one of those "I didn't know that was an option" things partly because:

1. It never occurs to us Americans because we don't have any airports that have direct air-to-HSR option over here in the States (our intra-city passenger rail system is crap)

and

2. AA has a really outdated and inefficient marketing web page to tell the average flyer that such a codeshare even exists. One has to go to "About Us," "Alliances & Affiliates," "Other Alliances (Codeshare Partners)," scroll all the way down to "Deutsche Bahn (German Rail)" and "SNCF French Rail" :rolleyes:


But bottom line, AA codeshares with the French TGV out of CDG and the German ICE trains from FRA work really great. They really should push this more in ads because it puts more destinations on the map for AA.

And yes, you earn AA miles for taking that TGV leg ;)


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