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s0ssos May 12, 2022 3:54 pm

most fuel efficient large vehicle
 
Is the Pacifica hybrid the most fuel efficient large vehicle for a road-trip (that National has)?
I presume hybrid suvs dont have the same level of mpg, and sedans like the Ford Fusion have an awdully small trunk when they are a hybrid.
Trip with 4 adults, a wheelchair

m907 May 13, 2022 2:05 am

I can't think of another.

SinglePapa2 May 13, 2022 6:30 am


Originally Posted by s0ssos (Post 34244956)
Is the Pacifica hybrid the most fuel efficient large vehicle for a road-trip (that National has)?
I presume hybrid suvs dont have the same level of mpg, and sedans like the Ford Fusion have an awdully small trunk when they are a hybrid.
Trip with 4 adults, a wheelchair

how do you get a hybrid?

El_Chiflero May 13, 2022 2:47 pm

Tesla Model X. It doesn't need any gas at all. :D

m907 May 13, 2022 6:00 pm


Originally Posted by SinglePapa2 (Post 34246324)
how do you get a hybrid?

They do exist; about 20% of the Pacificas I've seen lately have been hybrids. I don't think you can reserve one, though.

The mpg difference is only marginal - maybe 2 mpg over the V6 if you're not plugging it in to get the extra 30 mile range.


Originally Posted by El_Chiflero (Post 34247662)
Tesla Model X. It doesn't need any gas at all. :D

But you'll pay the equivalent of $5-$7 per gallon to charge it (if you can even find a charger).

kxc262 May 13, 2022 6:57 pm


Originally Posted by m907 (Post 34248061)
But you'll pay the equivalent of $5-$7 per gallon to charge it (if you can even find a charger).

Tesla is free to charge through the Tesla Supercharger network if you rent through National/Enterprise.
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/32893006-post1027.html
https://www.enterprise.com/en/exotic...s/tesla-s.html

whitewave May 13, 2022 7:13 pm

Deleted, thank you.

s0ssos May 13, 2022 8:01 pm

I have gotten quite a few Chrysler Pacifica hybrids, can get 40 mpg.
A rav4 hybrid also has good mpg but I don't think National has it.

m907 May 14, 2022 1:21 am


Originally Posted by kxc262 (Post 34248157)
Tesla is free to charge through the Tesla Supercharger network if you rent through National/Enterprise.
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/32893006-post1027.html
https://www.enterprise.com/en/exotic...s/tesla-s.html

*If you can find a Tesla charger.

kxc262 May 14, 2022 7:51 am


Originally Posted by m907 (Post 34248723)
*If you can find a Tesla charger.

What makes you think there won't be any Superchargers around? Enterprise and National aren't renting these out in small rural towns anyways.

SinglePapa2 May 14, 2022 10:12 am

The mpg difference is only marginal - maybe 2 mpg over the V6 if you're not plugging it in to get the extra 30 mile range. [QUOTE=m907;34248061]

I'm clueless on anything non-gas; what kind of "plugging-in" would I require on straight-thru drive NY-Miami? (when the only desired interruption in driving would be to fuel-up)

m907 May 15, 2022 1:17 am


Originally Posted by kxc262 (Post 34249100)
What makes you think there won't be any Superchargers around? Enterprise and National aren't renting these out in small rural towns anyways.

If you only travel in large metro areas and don't mind waiting in line, I'm sure they work great for you.


Originally Posted by SinglePapa2 (Post 34249364)
​​​​​I'm clueless on anything non-gas; what kind of "plugging-in" would I require on straight-thru drive NY-Miami? (when the only desired interruption in driving would be to fuel-up)

None. It runs on gas but you can charge the battery to get an extra 30-40 miles of electric range.

Wiley May 15, 2022 5:01 pm

I do quite a few long road-trips. Not sure if this is your idea of “good” mileage, but I’ve been able to squeeze out 27 mpg on a Ford Expedition. You have to keep it in eco mode, use the throttle really gently, and keep your speed below 60. In the past, I’ve managed 30 mpg on the older Tahoe/Suburban with the cylinder shut off feature and almost all highway driving, but National doesn’t have any more of these since the new models came out

qs933 May 15, 2022 5:29 pm


Originally Posted by s0ssos (Post 34244956)
Is the Pacifica hybrid the most fuel efficient large vehicle for a road-trip (that National has)?
I presume hybrid suvs dont have the same level of mpg, and sedans like the Ford Fusion have an awdully small trunk when they are a hybrid.
Trip with 4 adults, a wheelchair

I haven't seen one personally in the fleet, but the 2021+ Toyota Sienna are all hybrids. No plugging in required and about 35 MPG. Enterprise/National has had Siennas in its fleet (I still see 2020 models actively being used locally), but I haven't seen a 2021 or 2022 yet.

I wouldn't expect to see a Highlander Hybrid or Venza in the fleet, but I own the latter. I'm averaging 41 MPG in mixed city/highway driving without doing anything special (mode set to "Normal," A/C on, etc.).

s0ssos May 15, 2022 9:14 pm


Originally Posted by qs933 (Post 34252554)
I haven't seen one personally in the fleet, but the 2021+ Toyota Sienna are all hybrids. No plugging in required and about 35 MPG. Enterprise/National has had Siennas in its fleet (I still see 2020 models actively being used locally), but I haven't seen a 2021 or 2022 yet.

I wouldn't expect to see a Highlander Hybrid or Venza in the fleet, but I own the latter. I'm averaging 41 MPG in mixed city/highway driving without doing anything special (mode set to "Normal," A/C on, etc.).

I feel National has all the lower trim Toyotas (except for the Rav4 Adventure which pops up every now and then). Camrys are SE. With a physical key you need to stick in to start the vehicle.
I did hear all newer Siennas are hybrids (Toyotas push to electrification) but I haven't seen a hybrid one yet.

How spacious is the Venza?


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