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mrzim Jun 22, 2009 12:37 pm

The fee isn't charged separately to the credit card, but to the Sign & Sail Account. I was recently on a Carnival Cruise and there was a 3% fee on Casino transaction posted to the Sign & Sail. Make sure you check your cruise account summary.

bestbet33 Jun 22, 2009 6:01 pm


Originally Posted by mrzim (Post 11949525)
The fee isn't charged separately to the credit card, but to the Sign & Sail Account. I was recently on a Carnival Cruise and there was a 3% fee on Casino transaction posted to the Sign & Sail. Make sure you check your cruise account summary.

I went through every line of carnival folio and even added up the expenses on my own and compared it to that what was charges to my AMEX. There was no transaction charge. Because you were making me a little nervous I did some investigative work and went to the 'Ocean Players' website (this is the casino that is onboard Carnival and its subsidiaries). Anywho, it says this:


Question: Can I use my onboard account to get funds in the casino?
Answer:

Yes, you can use the onboard account card (room card) the cruise line gives you to purchase chips or tokens in the casino. There may be a small fee for the service and a limit on the amount of funds you can take per day or per cruise. There is no charge at the slot machines for using your onboard account card to access funds. Please consult the casino staff onboard for details.
http://www.oceanplayersclub.com/Abou...AQ.aspx#Ques38

So it looks like there is a charge for taking out chips, but not on slots (which I used). I would have been surprised if there was a charge because every time you slid your card through the maching it said "Withdraw from onboard account - NO CHARGE".

Max M Jun 25, 2009 9:24 pm


Originally Posted by bmvaughn (Post 11944988)
You could always hit a local bank branch before catching your flight :)

True, but some of us still bank at local non-mega banks and credit unions without branches all of the country that offer a higher level of service and higher interest rates than the mega-banks. Thus those without a branch in the port city, before flying out, would have to deal with the hassle of probably paying a fee to exchange the cash into a cashiers or travelers check.

bmvaughn Jun 25, 2009 10:13 pm


Originally Posted by Max M (Post 11971311)
True, but some of us still bank at local non-mega banks and credit unions without branches all of the country that offer a higher level of service and higher interest rates than the mega-banks. Thus those without a branch in the port city, before flying out, would have to deal with the hassle of probably paying a fee to exchange the cash into a cashiers or travelers check.

Now you see the logic behind having an extra account at a mega-bank that you don't use as a primary ;)

verse99 Jun 26, 2009 3:13 pm

On my 3 night Mexico Cruise they had casino night.

a drink cost $ 3.50 + mandatory tip and you got a $ 5 casino chip that had to be wagered once.

I bought 1000 Cocktails. The servers were happy since it added up a few hundred $$'s in tips. I got tons of miles on that crusie.

bestbet33 Jun 27, 2009 1:58 am


Originally Posted by verse99 (Post 11975094)
On my 3 night Mexico Cruise they had casino night.

a drink cost $ 3.50 + mandatory tip and you got a $ 5 casino chip that had to be wagered once.

I bought 1000 Cocktails. The servers were happy since it added up a few hundred $$'s in tips. I got tons of miles on that crusie.

That's all good and nice, but how did your $5000 wager go in the casino if you don't mind me asking? Also, how many of those cocktails did you drink?

PS. The tip is not mandatory for drinks (unless it was for this particular promo). Even though it adds it automatically, you can can tell your server a different amount while you're ordering. Not that I have done this.

dickieducker Jun 27, 2009 3:27 am

i've been doing this on NCL for a while. no charge for adding it to a shipboard account, you can add $2000 per day to your account, and they'll give you it in cash (for use in their slots). put the cash in the safe, rinse and repeat.

just be wary of adverse action from your CC's, particularly in the current climate.

deepbluesky Jul 12, 2009 6:23 am

First, great story verse99!

Next, it would be good to hear more experiences from people about this strategy - it seems there are conflicting messages. I'm going on an NCL repositioning cruise soon, and I'm encouraged by dixieducker's report to check out the current situation over there.

mecabq Jul 12, 2009 7:26 am


Originally Posted by verse99 (Post 11975094)
On my 3 night Mexico Cruise they had casino night.

a drink cost $ 3.50 + mandatory tip and you got a $ 5 casino chip that had to be wagered once.

I bought 1000 Cocktails. The servers were happy since it added up a few hundred $$'s in tips. I got tons of miles on that crusie.

This is nice idea, but only if you were planning to gamble almost $5,000 anyway (or drink 1000 drinks), as you would be expected, mathematically, to lose a majority of the gambling money.

deepbluesky Jul 12, 2009 8:03 am


Originally Posted by mecabq (Post 12052767)
This is nice idea, but only if you were planning to gamble almost $5,000 anyway (or drink 1000 drinks), as you would be expected, mathematically, to lose a majority of the gambling money.

That's true - I originally assumed that the chips could be cashed in (most can), but the poster noted that they had to be wagered once. I wouldn't do that myself.

THE TRAVELER Jul 12, 2009 9:58 am

Have done it for years............
 
NOW THAT THE CAT IS OUT OF THE BAG YOU CAN BELIEVE THAT THE CARD COMPANIES AND THE CRUISE LINES WILL PUT A STOP TO IT. WHAT AMAZES ME IS WHEN YOU FIND A SOFT SPOT MOST PEOPLE ADVERTISE IT AND THEN ONE LOOSES THE LOOPHOLE. I WAS DOING THIS BEFORE MOST OF YOU WERE BORN, NOW FOR SURE THE CRUISE LINES WILL PUT A STOP TO IT. OR LIKE WAS MENTIONED CHARGE THE 3%.

THE PERSON THAT EXPOSED THIS SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF HIMSELF.:mad:

Curious_George Jul 12, 2009 9:01 pm

Flyertalk is about sharing information. Also please don't yell.

verse99 Jul 12, 2009 9:52 pm


Originally Posted by bestbet33 (Post 11977043)
That's all good and nice, but how did your $5000 wager go in the casino if you don't mind me asking? Also, how many of those cocktails did you drink?

PS. The tip is not mandatory for drinks (unless it was for this particular promo). Even though it adds it automatically, you can can tell your server a different amount while you're ordering. Not that I have done this.

I did ok THAT night and actually came out ahead. It's a huge advantage in any casino to buy chips at around 20% off.

You are right I should have put automatic instead of required tip.

The actual cocktail was nasty, but the wait staff did not have me or my friends pay for any drink we wanted THAT NIGHT from the menu, so I had quite a few beers.

Some people have IM me. Here are more details:

This was Carnival

The chips were match play.

I had to play one real chip and 1 promotional chip and I could play the promotinonal chip until they lost.

The first dealer took the promotional chip on a push and didn't let it play again. I spoke with the pit boss and he let me play them until I lost.

Also they cut me off at 1K drinks as I wanted to order another 1K..... Supposedly they ran out of promo chips.

verse99 Jul 12, 2009 9:55 pm


Originally Posted by mecabq (Post 12052767)
This is nice idea, but only if you were planning to gamble almost $5,000 anyway (or drink 1000 drinks), as you would be expected, mathematically, to lose a majority of the gambling money.

Black Jack only has a small house advantage. If the player has a 10% advantage (-20% off promotional chips that need to be wagered with 1 real chip) this is HUGE and you are mathematically guaranteed to come out ahead.

StrandedinSC Jul 13, 2009 1:13 am


Originally Posted by verse99 (Post 12055935)
Black Jack only has a small house advantage. If the player has a 10% advantage (-20% off promotional chips that need to be wagered with 1 real chip) this is HUGE and you are mathematically guaranteed to come out ahead.

Assuming you know basic strategy, of course..

Play like a donkey, and you can waste away even that huge advantage.


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