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Originally Posted by Long Zhiren
(Post 11459080)
US miles used to be easy to get with their cc offers, with first year annual fee waived. But the fee waiving seems to have disappeared.
$79 for 25k miles comes out to ~$400 for 125k miles, enough to get to much of the world first class. |
Whoa. Talk about a rock and a hard place. What a horrible choice. I guess I'd probably pick UA. Maybe I'd rather walk, though.
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Originally Posted by deant
(Post 11453104)
One problem I have with US is the high change fees they have on award travel.
Unless you are a Chairman's Preferred member you pay a $250 change fee for transatlantic or transpacific ticket changes. |
Originally Posted by honeytoes
(Post 11497036)
Even Chairman's Preferred members pay the change fees. I have been granted several "one-time" courtesy exemptions, but that is out of the norm.
http://www.usairways.com/awa/content...chairmans.aspx We waive the mileage redeposit fee of $150 ($250 for transatlantic/transpacific itineraries) for totally unused award tickets for our Chairman's Preferred members. |
Wow tough call - so many mediocre choices :(
I think the key questions for you are how you plan to accumulate miles and how you plan to spend them. If you will accumulate by flying domestic economy class on UA then you might prefer UA as your status will get you E+ seating and some other benefits at the airport. If you will accumulate by flying international (any class) you might be best off crediting to BMI as you will get some nice bonuses. However if you are flying UA and will hit 100k then you might appreciate the SWUs. If you will be redeeming for domestic flights within USA then UA is the best choice as redemption is usally pretty easy and much better than US. However if you will be redeeming for international business class travel then your best choice would be BMI, and to a lesser extend US. BMI (and US?) require fewer miles, but more importantly, neither appears to engage in the horrific *net blocking. I see no reason to credit miles to UA anymore until UA decides to honor its obligations to provide saver international business class awards on both UA and *A partners. |
Originally Posted by ArizonaGuy
(Post 11500400)
. . . US is unable to change a *A award without canceling the ticket and starting over. Well, they can if it's all US metal. . .
It was an issue to me in yesterday's case because all the remaining flights were no longer available in F and I didn't want to lose them. The agent said there was no need to impact them and proceeded to change the two flights I wanted changed. As with too many things on US, it's all about the agent you get. On the broader subject of US vs. UA, at the top tier, UA 1Ks have a significant advantage over US CPs in the ability to change award tickets without penalty. They're costly on US. As has been mentioned, redeposits are free, but with complicated itineraries, you're often waiting for one or two flights to become available and don't have the luxury of scrapping the entire trip and re-booking. On the other hand, the lack of restrictions on Star Alliance award tickets (specifically UA's StarNet filtering) and more flexible routings, without the mileage maximums, make it much easier to book those award tickets as a US elite. |
Thread resurrection
I really think this is a worthy discussion in light of the upcoming Continental/UA merger since after Sept 2011, UA vs US Air will be the only two choices for U.S.-based *A FFP's. Let's compare/contrast in terms of:
1) Earning potential via flights on original carrier 2) Earning potential via flights on alliance partners 3) Earning potential via non-flights (Shopping Portal, partners, etc.) 4) Award redemption on original carrier 5) Award redemption on *A partners 6) Low/Mid/High tier status benefits |
Originally Posted by pgary
(Post 11454933)
In my experience, U.S. Air miles are easier to use on Star Alliance international flights, but UAL miles are easier to get. I collect both whenever they are free or cheap.
If I get the CO card, I'll have ~68k miles that will go over to UA, but not sure I'll be able to earn many more on UA. |
I've had the UA for several years now, earning miles on the UMP Visa, flights (obv), hotels, occasional car rentals, and MP dining. And in the time I've had the card, I don't think I've ever redeemed on a UA flight. I've flown US a couple of times, and LH several times internationally. I went with UA primarily because of *A and I've been pretty satisfied with my redemption options.
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All things equal, UA is superior.
But, as always, this depends on which airport you're out of, route equipment, etc. Lastly, keep a close ear to the upcoming UA changes. |
Originally Posted by Long Zhiren
(Post 11460956)
Is this blocking new or is it just rare availability?
I've only tried once somewhat recently (fall of 2008) and had no problems--used US ff miles successfully to book UA SJC-ORD. For a second award seat on the same flights, I used UA ff miles. |
Originally Posted by leftpinky
(Post 16955771)
I tried booking a flight to India and needed to get back from East Asia (China, Japan, HK) as the lsat leg and Co.com showed tons of availability on UA/CO, but multiple US agents said they could not see it. We're talking about 2-3 flights a day over a 30 day period. I finally found something on singapore, but it was pretty darn hard. Has anyone else had this problem?
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Originally Posted by Brogan_
(Post 16953817)
All things equal, UA is superior.
But, as always, this depends on which airport you're out of, route equipment, etc. Lastly, keep a close ear to the upcoming UA changes. |
Originally Posted by Henry82
(Post 16952751)
I really think this is a worthy discussion in light of the upcoming Continental/UA merger since after Sept 2011, UA vs US Air will be the only two choices for U.S.-based *A FFP's. Let's compare/contrast in terms of:
1) Earning potential via flights on original carrier 2) Earning potential via flights on alliance partners 3) Earning potential via non-flights (Shopping Portal, partners, etc.) 4) Award redemption on original carrier 5) Award redemption on *A partners 6) Low/Mid/High tier status benefits |
One not so widely known benefit with US is that you can earn status miles on non-Star partners. I was pleasantly surprised to find I hit silver after a few QR flights.
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