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opus17 Jan 22, 2001 7:45 pm

Even more annoying than infants in First Class
 
There is a very nice thread going on about infants in First Class. Now, I really dislike infants near me in a plane, but upon some reflection, I realized that they are only one of many annoyances. So I have made a complete list of things that annoy me in First Class.
  • People flying in First Class for the first time and making a spectacle of themselves.
  • Anyone who mentions their FF status to a flight attendant.
  • People who speak so loudly I can hear their conversations.
  • People who speak so softly that I can’t eavesdrop on their conversations.
  • People with bare feet.
  • Couples who kiss or make out. I am very open minded, so I hate them if they are hetero or if they are two men. I’ll get back to two women after I think about it for a while.
  • Any person who paid less for their fare than I.
  • Any person who disagrees with me on political issues.
  • People who want to watch the movie and make me close the shade.
  • People who keep the shade open when I want to watch the movie.
  • I’m still thinking about the two women.
  • The bozo in the seat in front of me who reclines in my face.
  • The bozo in the seat in back of me who complains when I recline in his face.
  • The bozo next to me who won’t shut up.
  • The unfriendly bozo next to me who won’t say anything.
  • People who snore.
  • People who use the airplane phone and say "Guess where I am?"
  • People who get a gift bottle of wine when I get nothing,
  • and infants.

Other than that, everyone is OK, but I do wish the airlines would fax me the passenger list for my approval.

dlword Jan 22, 2001 8:15 pm

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2 Many Miles Jan 22, 2001 8:19 pm

You forgot

o Anyone sitting in an Aisle seat if I'm forced to sit in a window

o Anyone who ordered the meal I want when there isn't any left for me

o Anyone who looks happy

o Anyone who's sick

o Anyone who talks loudly enough that I can eavesdrop if the conversation is boring

As for making out/ kissing, that doesn't bother me too much. It's the oral sex that gets on my nerves.


ozstamps Jan 22, 2001 8:55 pm


It's the oral sex that gets on my nerves.
Speaking as a male, gets on all our nerves doesn't it? http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

snake Jan 22, 2001 9:05 pm

Some people just don't have enough to complain about!!! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/rolleyes.gif

dallasflyer Jan 22, 2001 9:07 pm

lol

orix Jan 22, 2001 9:10 pm

People who are bare foot and use the lavatory. Has any guy tryed to pee during a bumpy ride?

onedog Jan 22, 2001 9:32 pm

ROTFLMAO

I think all of these are also valid in C as well as in Y http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif


Originally posted by orix:
People who are bare foot and use the lavatory. Has any guy tryed to pee during a bumpy ride?
Barefoot? YECK http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/frown.gif


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ozstamps Jan 22, 2001 9:42 pm

Whilst the debate here is at such a cultural high, and such a politically incorrect level, here is the prefect juncture to post a small excerpt from:

http://www.planebusiness.com/ubb/For...ML/000062.html

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It goes without saying that your baby will poop massively on the plane. This must have something to do with atmospheric pressure because it never fails. Each year, more baby poop is produced on airplanes than in all of Portugal. Fortunately, most planes have a little changing shelf in the bathroom, which is the perfect size for a baby, provided that it is a baby gerbil. For human babies, you have to use the seat, which then must be burned when the plane lands. The only really practical place to change a baby on an airplane would be on the wing, but of course you can't take the baby out there. The other passengers would never let you back inside.
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GG Jan 22, 2001 10:01 pm

Then there's:

People who can afford to pay more than I can for their fare.

People who just want to show off their equipment. (Well, if it's sufficiently interesting... )



TravelManKen Jan 23, 2001 1:04 am

- Sitting next to the old bald guy, when there's a fine female one row up and 2 seats over.
- When that same old guy gets drunk
- When the drunk old guy insists on telling me that he knows a lot of "colored" people just like me
- When that same, old, drunk, redneck, racist guy tells me that his "best friend growing up was black"

Oops I'm sorry, I didn't mean to bore all of you with the details of my last trip to Munich from San Francisco http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

wigstheone Jan 23, 2001 7:56 am

Anyone who wheels/carries on luggage that they otherwise cannot handle, whether because they are too short, small, old, weak or inept, or because they have packed their entire bullion collection, and then expects that I should stop whatever I may be doing in order that I should get up and help them stow everything in the otherwise unreachable overhead bins.

dholloway Jan 23, 2001 8:04 am

Something my mother taught me a long time ago when I was potty-training was to sit down on the toilet when I had to slash. That way you don't whiz on your leg or on the floor when the room is moving or spinning, whatever the reason for balance instability.

Works wonders in the plane lav as well as at the homes of friends.

I still wouldn't go into the lav shoeless as not many other people follow this sensible and sanitary rule.

Library Dragon Jan 23, 2001 8:06 am

LOL

I have to second the carryon. Leave the washing machine at home.

afang Jan 23, 2001 9:49 am

With all these ppl in mind, I have one more for ya'll

A person who is so friendly to his/her other seat mate you would think they know each other but they don't, and then when the other person sleeps, he/she won't speak to me at all.


ontheroad Jan 23, 2001 11:30 am

A couple more:

- People who use their laptop to work while I am playing games.

- People who use their laptop to play games while I am working.



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jamflyer Jan 23, 2001 11:39 am

Did I post this? What about the two women making... oh well, fortget it.

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jamflyer Jan 23, 2001 11:48 am


Originally posted by TravelManKen:
- Sitting next to the old bald guy, when there's a fine female one row up and 2 seats over.
- When that same old guy gets drunk
- When the drunk old guy insists on telling me that he knows a lot of "colored" people just like me
- When that same, old, drunk, redneck, racist guy tells me that his "best friend growing up was black"

Oops I'm sorry, I didn't mean to bore all of you with the details of my last trip to Munich from San Francisco http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

I sat next to this guy last week!!!


richard Jan 23, 2001 11:55 am

people who put their enormous bag of elephants under their seat and my seat without asking, just assuming it's okay with me to go on a 5 hour flight in first class with their junk under my feet.

Adman Jan 23, 2001 3:11 pm

...and people who glare at me they find themselves sitting near my perfectly behaved infant!

elektrik Jan 23, 2001 3:30 pm


Originally posted by GG:
People who just want to show off their equipment. (Well, if it's sufficiently interesting... )
Does this go along with the oral sex complaint?

E


0524 Jan 23, 2001 4:16 pm

Opus17, you're hired to write the comedy intros to my speeches. Good stuff.

Warrenlm Jan 23, 2001 6:51 pm

How about BOTH Opus17 and Jon Toner?

Posted by Jon Toner:
I didn't get upgraded on a NW codeshare MDW-MSP, so I was in NW coach. But I didn't want to start another thread. I also have a question.
I ran to catch my plane, and discovered NW won't let you carry-on two bags. I hate that! CO let's you carry on two, even on a ERJ. I like that. It was an A320. Very quiet. Almost too quiet. I liked that. The chairs were blue and both narrow AND close together. I hate that. The seats were cloth, but not a nice cloth like silk, but a coarse cloth. I hate that. And there was some sitting in the middle seat. I hate that. He was oozing into my seat too. We had to armrest-wrestle. I hate that. NW serves PEPSI products instead of Coke. I hate that. I had 7-Up. I like that. They just poured me a drink in a cup, but didn't leave the can. I hate that. The cup was cracked and the soda spilled out. I hate that. The FA gave me a napkin, but not another cup. Apprently they have a strict 1-cup-per-passenger policy. I hate that. CO doesn't have that policy. I like that. The FA finally gave me another cup when the napkin wouldn't absorb any more soda. But she DIDN'T GIVE ME MORE 7-UP! I HATE THAT. The flight was smooth. I like that. But I was sitting in Row 22 and it took forever to get off the plane. I hate that. I'd hurt my foot in MDW, so couldn't run well. I hate that. I got FC on my MSP-OMA trip. I like that. FC was almost empty. I love that. I got to watch them de-ice the plane out the window. I like that. They had a really futuristic looking machine, like a telephone repair truck, but the cherry-picker was completely enclosed. It had all kinds of nozzles sticking out the front, so looked like a weapon out of Star Wars. I liked that movie. The special effects at the time were incredible. I remember a lot of people saw that movie dozens of times. Almost like a religous experience. I remember people camping out in front of the box office when The Empire Strikes Back came out. I didn't like that movie as much, but I know other people who did. I guess it depends on your taste in movies. Raiders of the Lost Ark was pretty cool. Harrison Ford was in all 3 movies I just mentioned. He was also in Air Force One, and he's on a plane. I didn't see that movie. I heard it was good. I hope to see it someday. But my question is, does the President get Frequent Flier Miles on Air Force One? Where can he redeem them? And where would he upgrade to with them? Sorry, that's three questions.

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opus17 Jan 23, 2001 7:05 pm

Jon Toner's stuff is funnier than mine. I hate that.

Jon Toner Jan 23, 2001 8:58 pm

Opus:
I disagree. You post some really hysterical stuff.

And a couple of times in the chatroom when you were on a roll, I kept wondering if there was a two drink minimum.

My pet peeve - the person who, when finding out I work with computers, proceeds to either ask advice what to buy, or tells me all about their nephew/brother/uncle/etc. who knows all about them.

From now on when people ask what I do for a living, I'm going to say I'm flying in to do site selection for a new chemical waste dump and ask if there are open fields near where they live.

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"I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own."

ozstamps Jan 23, 2001 9:15 pm

Tell them you work the the IRS. That is a real conversation strangler. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

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SeoulGold Jan 23, 2001 10:06 pm


Originally posted by wigstheone:
Anyone who wheels/carries on luggage that they otherwise cannot handle, whether because they are too short, small, old, weak or inept, or because they have packed their entire bullion collection, and then expects that I should stop whatever I may be doing in order that I should get up and help them stow everything in the otherwise unreachable overhead bins.
Unless it is the fine female sitting one row up and 2 seats over...
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif


belle3388 Jan 23, 2001 11:13 pm

on or off the plane....

people who pull their mouths open to one side, showing those deep cavities and ask how much to fix those... my husband hates that..
one guy proudly told him just to save himself from future pain, suffering and high dental costs, had all his teeth pulled and now been wearing upper and lower dentures for years... my husband really really hates that...
unless he is sitting next to one, now my husband rarely tells strangers he is a dentist...

Spider Jan 24, 2001 6:06 am

This is one hysterical thread!!! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/cool.gif

BoSoxFan45 Jan 24, 2001 9:06 am

Anyone who finds out I'm a plaintiff's class action attorney and proceeds to tell me a long story about how they did something stupid, or stupidly invested in a stock with lousy fundamentals and lost 5 dollars and ends with the rhetorical question: "So that'd be a great case, right?"

Or says "So you chase ambulances, right."

Or (and ANY lawyer, doctor, dentist, or any person with any appreciable skills knows this) asks you for professional advice.

Or sitting next to any politician, of any ilk.

I second the carry-on comment.

People who wait until the aisle is completely clear in front of them for 40 feet before making any move to pack up their stuff, which they have strewn about their seating area, thus making everyone else wait for another 3 minutes.

Turbulence.

Weather or any other delays. Hell, why can't they just beam us there?

People who have INCREDIBLY LOUD cell phone conversations while sitting at the gate. invariably, these same people speak of something important they are doing, and then tell the person they are talking to, "I'm on a flight from ____ to _____/ Yeah, I guess! I really have to go now!"- Thus trying to make themselves seem important to a) the person they are talking to, and b) the people around them.

The idiot (5'10" 320)who, on a full flight, in coach sitting next to me, who told me (6'2", 245) "This just isn't going to work", after his elbow kept spilling over into my ribcage (I actually fit- barely in a coach seat). I then told him "I guess we'll both have to diet" to which he responded by glaring at me, pushing the call button and berating the FA for seating the two of us next to one another.

People who are obviously really sick and who sit next to me.

Yankee fans.

The segment of NW employees that have completed the "How to hate your customers and treat them like they killed your first-born child" course.

Drunk NW pilots.

Any passenger who makes obviously unwanted advances towards anyone else on the plane.

W.



[This message has been edited by BoSoxFan45 (edited 01-24-2001).]

DelrayChris Jan 24, 2001 9:14 am

Even more annoying than crying, screaming infants in First Class, are the people sitting in First Class who think they are better than the rest of the people on the plane http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

Also, to add to the above, are the FA's who work First Class, who think they are better than the rest of the people on the plane http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

Not all people, or FA's, are like this, of course.. But they are out there..

AZ_MISMAN Jan 24, 2001 3:44 pm


Originally posted by Jon Toner:

My pet peeve - the person who, when finding out I work with computers, proceeds to either ask advice what to buy, or tells me all about their nephew/brother/uncle/etc. who knows all about them.

From now on when people ask what I do for a living, I'm going to say I'm flying in to do site selection for a new chemical waste dump and ask if there are open fields near where they live.


Good one, Jon. I'll have to remember that as I a) work with computers, and b) work for a major US bank. They proceed to tell me how there computer is screwed up, and I must be responsible for the time in 1974 that the bank overdrew their account by a dollar that cause a lot of embarrassment.



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RichG Jan 24, 2001 4:15 pm

People trailing wheeled bags behind them who don't have back-up lights and an alarm.

People who stop in the aisle to have a conversation and won't move until you practically yell EXCUSE ME in their ear or poke them.

People who poke you to get past you without even trying to ask you first.

People who spend the whole flight crouching in the aisle talking to their seated friend so that everyone needing to get past to get to the lavatory has to be an acrobat.

People wearing enormous backpacks who manage to get absolutely each passenger in an aisle seat as they work their way to the last row.

KarenPercy Jan 24, 2001 9:56 pm

My personal fave was the middle aged bald guy with the overly madeup, obviously plastic surgery-enhanced girlfriend/trophy wife/well-paid call girl who sat next to me on a flight once from Chicago to Boston.
From the time they boarded she would not shut up about how she'd never flown in coach in her life! She couldn't believe they had no more seats left and how she thought she would rather die than be there.
She couldn't find a place to put her camel hair coat (described loudly), or her Louis Vuitton garment bag so she would put the coat in the overhead bin but was CONVINCED she would get oil or some muck on it.
Then she proceeded to talk about how crammed it was in coach and how she was getting claustrophobic and how she was going to take some pills to "take the edge off". Then ruffled through her pharmacology bag/purse and downed something with her wine she had ordered.
Her boyfriend/husband/john just looked incredibly pained the whole time and when she tried to shove some pills at him he said, and I quote: "I don't have an edge darling".
Ironically I was on a heavily reduced fare flying in coach and was reading a very funny book by Dominick Dunne about the excesses & eccentricities of the rich. I almost busted up loudly several times during her tirades. Instead I raised the book up & smiled from behind it.
When the meals came, she said, dripping with sarcasm, "Oh, I can't wait to see what a coach meal looks like" and when my special meal was delivered (not for dietary needs but because I think they're better....less mass production) they both said...."Well how did you get that?". I smiled sweetly and told them I called ahead.

I truly had never witnessed such snobbery in rare form, and I grew up near some pretty wealthy people in the Bay Area. Incredibly amusing & TOTALLY ANNOYING at the same time.

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PAUL PALMER Jan 26, 2001 5:37 am

Karen, that is a wonderful yarn. i'll certainly relate it to others. We call people like that "Sloanes". How wonderful to see her Coach virginity being so shamelessly and crassly lost. I'll share with you a tale that a charming AA FA told me in F BOS-ORD as it so happened. He went to take beverage orders from a couple seated in F. He gave his order, the wife made no reply. Three times the FA tried ending up gesturing as he thought that perhaps she did not speak english. At this point her husband interjected. "My wife does not speak to the Hired Help".

Most people who I have met who truly have money would no more say that (even if they thought it, which I sincerely doubt), and would never ever make such an exhibition of themselves as your example. I am staggered that given the richness of her new experience that she made bo comment on having to pay for drinks as I assume that the wine (sorry did not intend to pun!) was not free.

Spider Jan 26, 2001 7:53 am


Originally posted by PAUL PALMER:
At this point her husband interjected. "My wife does not speak to the Hired Help".
Some people really need to see their shrink more often. No wealthy, intelligent and educated person would speak to anyone in such a manner. Seems like a typical "rags to riches" story...

siliconengineer Jan 26, 2001 3:36 pm

In the vein of "Or (and ANY lawyer, doctor, dentist, or any person with any appreciable skills knows this) asks you for professional advice." and the posting about being asked computer advice, I must have been a severe disappointment to the professional golfer who sat next to me 3 years from SIN to TPE.

He told me his name, which not surprisingly did not ring a bell as the only golfing names I can only recognize are Arnold Palmer, Lee Trevino and maybe a couple of others. He then told me he had just played in a golf tournament in Malaysia and then we just chatted a couple of minutes on some inconsequentials. I then continued reading a newspaper and eventually got to the sports section. He noticed, pointed to a photograph, and said thats a photo of his buddy, the winner of the tournament. I didn't recognize that name either so just said something like thats nice.

I don't think we talked anymore http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif. I think he was really expecting me to ask him about golf, but at that time, I had yet to play my first golf game.

motnot Jan 26, 2001 9:09 pm

Still thinking about the two women, opus?

opus17 Jan 26, 2001 10:08 pm

mmmm... oh, yes, guess I am.

belle3388 Jan 26, 2001 11:08 pm

i read somewhere that some 'snob'celebrities DO NOT speak directly to the 'hired help', be that FAs, Chauffers, Hotel Managers...etc.
they speak through their assistants who are always by their side...
(some of them also specifically ask people not to look directly into their eyes! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/rolleyes.gif )
question: aren't the assistants also 'hired help'?



[This message has been edited by belle3388 (edited 01-26-2001).]


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