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yuel Sep 16, 2021 1:32 pm

Daily getaways 2021
 
It’s coming October 7

Daily Getaways (ustravel.org)

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GUWonder Sep 18, 2021 6:46 am

I guess I should expect to see some of the same travel suppliers this time around as last time. Just curious if they will be more miserly and/or fewer offerings this time than last time.

Hopefully I can get some value out of the hotel programs’ offers again.

manually Sep 20, 2021 4:48 pm


Originally Posted by GUWonder (Post 33577610)
I guess I should expect to see some of the same travel suppliers this time around as last time. Just curious if they will be more miserly and/or fewer offerings this time than last time.

Hopefully I can get some value out of the hotel programs’ offers again.

I think the hotels need people and the offers will be more generous this time around... I hope...

GUWonder Sep 22, 2021 1:59 am

Here were the 2019 participating brands:

Alamo Rent-a-Car
Avis Car Rental
Best Western International
Caesars Entertainment
Choice Hotels International
Expedia
Accor Hotels
Hertz Rent-a-Car
Hilton Hotels and Resorts
Hyatt Hotels and Resorts
InterContinental Hotel Group
Las Vegas Sands Corporation
Loews Hotels and Resorts
Marriott International
MGM Resorts International
Omni Resorts and Hotels
SeaWorld Parks and Entertainment
Universal Parks and Resorts
Wyndham Hotels & Resorts

I assume most of those were lined up for the cancelled 2020 promotion.

Since the offer previews don’t seem set to show up until October 4th, and as the sales go live on October 7th, it seems to me that they are scrambling for participating companies and/or to get staff to work on having everything ready to go for this 2021 promotion. Probably hit with extraordinary marketing and tech resource constraints due to changes that hit during and from the pandemic — not only from the promotion runners but also their promotion partners.

Note that the previous preview offers date was showing as September 27th.

GUWonder Sep 29, 2021 2:33 am

They still have the offer preview date set for October 4th; and the actual sales starting date is still showing as set for October 7th.

pinniped Sep 29, 2021 8:01 am

I recall some of the IC and OMNI offers in the past weren't too bad. They were nice because it didn't matter if you were already a high elite in their programs or not - they were just really good deals on weekend stays at various hotels. I don't really have a use for OMNI points but I know in some places they have really good hotels.

Hilton points are worth so much less than they once were, those offers are going to have to be adjusted quite a bit. Frankly, I probably wouldn't buy Hilton unless it's Free Night certificates with easily-understood terms and conditions. (Exclusions such as a fixed list of properties or fixed dates that I can place a value on.)

I'm pivoting to Hyatt in 2022 so for the first time I'll be interested in what they have to offer.

The Vegas and Orlando deals always seemed pretty overpriced to me, but it's possible I was missing something there. The only time I go to either of those is for conferences where I just accept the conference hotel and rate - I don't really shop those markets for great deals.

GUWonder Sep 29, 2021 2:24 pm


Originally Posted by pinniped (Post 33605262)
I'm pivoting to Hyatt in 2022 so for the first time I'll be interested in what they have to offer.

The Hyatt packages on sale previously have been so few in number that the chances of picking them up by manual selection has been extremely challenging even for the trained screen jockeys to land. My bet is that it won’t be much easier to get them this year, as the miles and points blogosphere will be all over these.

GUWonder Oct 4, 2021 5:22 am

In less than 99 minutes, the preview offers are scheduled to show up on the site. Hopefully there are no delays this time.

sxpsxpsxp Oct 4, 2021 8:24 am

The previews are up through the 15th. No offers showing for days after that. Nothing particularly spectacular as far as I can tell, but obviously everyone values these things differently.

250k HH for $1,250... Just for fun (since I'm planning a London trip), I looked up a DoubleTree in London that charges 50k/night. So that 250k gets me 6 nights if I'm elite. Or I can pay $1,896 for those same 6 nights.

GUWonder Oct 4, 2021 11:10 am

Not many Hyatt packages for sale. I’ll try my luck, but I doubt I’ll have much success there.

Glad to see Choice in at about the same level as prior years.

manually Oct 4, 2021 11:57 am

Pretty weak choices this time. I was thinking they would want travel.

pinniped Oct 4, 2021 12:10 pm

The Hyatt points deals have a positive expected value for most normal uses. Not enough for me to lose sleep if I don't get one, but they're decent deals.

None of the other points deals are that attractive. 0.5c for HH points? Uhhh, nope.

The OMNI and Accor deals look better than anything else.

lkar Oct 4, 2021 12:16 pm

So, there are 16 total Hyatt packages? What the heck?

lkar Oct 4, 2021 12:26 pm


Originally Posted by sxpsxpsxp (Post 33617793)
The previews are up through the 15th. No offers showing for days after that. Nothing particularly spectacular as far as I can tell, but obviously everyone values these things differently.

250k HH for $1,250... Just for fun (since I'm planning a London trip), I looked up a DoubleTree in London that charges 50k/night. So that 250k gets me 6 nights if I'm elite. Or I can pay $1,896 for those same 6 nights.

With a planned stay in mind, .5 cents for Hilton points is pretty good, especially for 5 nights or more if there is availability. Just remember though that cash stays earn points at a pretty good rate depending on elite level. So, in your situation, a gold member would actually earn around 30,000 points on the cash stay, which would translate to about $150 back in points. Still a good deal but should be considered.

pinniped Oct 4, 2021 1:25 pm

The key is the planned stay. HH points have been in a straight line of devaluation for at least a decade. (Maybe longer - there have been multiple big structural changes to the program over the years, none good for the members.) Vastly worse than the gradual category creep of more stable programs like Hyatt, SPG, and Marriott.

It's getting harder and harder to find 0.5 cpp options with Hilton. If you do find one, lock it in when the points hit your account.

GUWonder Oct 4, 2021 3:07 pm


Originally Posted by lkar (Post 33618397)
So, there are 16 total Hyatt packages? What the heck?

This seems like a far smaller number of packages from Hyatt than in the prior years with Hyatt packages.

Maybe Hyatt will have a second offer round this time?

With 16 packages, I assume my chance of landing one the traditional way is as follows: basically zero.

I will try to max out on Choice.

allbrosca Oct 4, 2021 3:22 pm

Interesting that 2 of the 4 Accor Daily Getaways are for Ovation reward certificates for rooms that are stated not to be available for redemption on the Ovation Reward site. The Daily Getaway for the Fairmont El San Juan is for an Ovation Certificate said to be redeemable for a 1 BR suite and the one for the Fairmont Century Plaza is for a Gold Room. On the Ovation Reward site the Fairmont El San Juan Ovation Certificates are stated not to be redeemable for suites and the Century Plaza Ovation Certificates are not redeemable for Gold Rooms..

pinniped Oct 4, 2021 3:32 pm


Originally Posted by allbrosca (Post 33618973)
Interesting that 2 of the 4 Accor Daily Getaways are for Ovation reward certificates for rooms that are stated not to be available for redemption on the Ovation Reward site. The Daily Getaway for the Fairmont El San Juan is for an Ovation Certificate said to be redeemable for a 1 BR suite and the one for the Fairmont Century Plaza is for a Gold Room. On the Ovation Reward site the Fairmont El San Juan Ovation Certificates are stated not to be redeemable for suites and the Century Plaza Ovation Certificates are not redeemable for Gold Rooms..

Are the Ovation Certificates generally easy to redeem? (e.g., if a suite is available you can use it) The $1000 for 4 in either New York or DC were the most interesting ones to me, provided they aren't subject to tight capacity control.

hedoman Oct 4, 2021 4:24 pm

Just like in real life. Hyatt solid, Hilton....no way.

hailstorm Oct 4, 2021 5:32 pm

Hyatt offer doesn't feel as lucrative as previous years. 50000 points would get me two nights at the Grand Hyatt Tokyo, but I could book two nights now quite a bit cheaper than the $660 that the points would cost.

hedoman Oct 4, 2021 6:27 pm

There is no end to finding examples like your Tokyo story. Whatever Hyatt is selling points for today with their big bonus, Daily Getaways is quite a bit less. No so for Hilton.

hailstorm Oct 4, 2021 6:51 pm

Doesn't really matter how much of a bonus they are selling points for if the end result is a stay that is still more expensive than booking a paid rate.

lkar Oct 4, 2021 7:09 pm


Originally Posted by hailstorm (Post 33619418)
Doesn't really matter how much of a bonus they are selling points for if the end result is a stay that is still more expensive than booking a paid rate.

All depends on your needs. I am looking at nights in Paris where the choice is between almost 800 euros or 30,000 points. You can still get outsized value using Hyatt points but again buying points speculatively without a planned stay is risky.

nsx Oct 4, 2021 7:22 pm


Originally Posted by GUWonder (Post 33618232)
Not many Hyatt packages for sale. I’ll try my luck, but I doubt I’ll have much success there.

Hyatt points will not arrive in time to avoid the upcoming devaluation for Peak night redemption.

hailstorm Oct 4, 2021 7:44 pm


Originally Posted by lkar (Post 33619449)
All depends on your needs. I am looking at nights in Paris where the choice is between almost 800 euros or 30,000 points. You can still get outsized value using Hyatt points but again buying points speculatively without a planned stay is risky.

That is true. My observation is dependant on my own needs, and everyone should crunch the numbers for their own needs before deciding on this purchase (the eminent introduction of flexible pricing for points reservations should be kept in mind as well!)

One area where the purchase might make sense for me is using points for upgrading a paid stay to a suite, but availability for that is very spotty.

pinniped Oct 4, 2021 10:06 pm

In the current system, I can get around 2 cents per point on pretty basic Hyatt redemptions.

Don't follow the Hyatt forum close enough to know exactly how bad the coming devaluation is expected to be.

With the entire hotel industry mostly eliminating soft product and even basic things like food at the hotels, I'm moving more and more leisure stays to Airbnb / VRBO / Booking.com. I'm hesitant to go out and voluntarily acquire new hotel points. I have a million HH and 500k Marriott to burn down before they become worthless. I'm going to flip 2022 business stays to Hyatt but probably won't aggressively pursue points beyond the stays and using the credit card for stays.

GUWonder Oct 5, 2021 2:54 am


Originally Posted by nsx (Post 33619471)
Hyatt points will not arrive in time to avoid the upcoming devaluation for Peak night redemption.

I’ve considered that possibility. I have some potential use to use them to save some bucks this year and early next, and that is despite the upcoming Hyatt set up to fleece customers with its customer-unfriendly new award pricing scheme that it had said it would finally launch this month.

smilee Oct 5, 2021 9:19 pm


Originally Posted by nsx (Post 33619471)
Hyatt points will not arrive in time to avoid the upcoming devaluation for Peak night redemption.

Even so the handful of packages will be scooped up by bots in 0.0002 seconds so that makes it even more useless.

For most other point sales, I think you can usually find them on sale anyhow for the same price. So why bother staking out a spot at your computer at exactly 1pm....

I do not understand all the hype around daily getaways. If you want points buy them when they are on sale. For the Hyatt ones, you not likely to get them. As well, they will be worth even less later this month, so you would do better to buy at the current slightly higher price today, then to purchase the cheaper ones that will be worth less tomorrow when the Hyatt peak pricing goes into effect in a couple of weeks.

oliver2002 Oct 6, 2021 8:20 am

The 3 nights in a suite at the Venetian for 650$ is interesting...

yuel Oct 6, 2021 6:55 pm

I am just glad the Marriott gift cards are back, but very limited amounts

GUWonder Oct 7, 2021 3:26 pm

Hilton points still available for sale. No surprise there.

yerffej201 Oct 8, 2021 11:04 am

the hyatt sale was so damn stupid. site crashed

puchong Oct 8, 2021 12:08 pm

Overall a very poor list of offers

platbrownguy Oct 8, 2021 12:27 pm

I was able to snag 80k Hyatt somehow. Website kept crashing but I refreshed one of the tabs and it asked me for my Hyatt #. Been trying to get in for years, it's a great deal :tu:

sggolf Oct 10, 2021 4:04 pm

IHG is selling 2500 miles for $12...

Yellowjj Oct 12, 2021 7:11 pm

How long do points from these packages take to post?

GUWonder Oct 12, 2021 7:56 pm


Originally Posted by Yellowjj (Post 33639680)
How long do points from these packages take to post?

I expect to see all of my purchased Choice package points post before Halloween, if not even within 10 days or less.

Going back to the 2019 thread(s) about Daily Getaways offerings can be taken as a guide for how long it took previously.

GUWonder Oct 15, 2021 9:16 am

These transactions made using Chase cards come across as this:


Description US TRAVEL ASSOC
Also known as
US TRAVEL ASSOC
Merchant type
Civic, social and fraternal associations
Method
Online, mail or phone
.......
Category
Gifts & donations
Just a bit of background for those trying to figure out which bank card to use when buying these offers.

Ilove2fly Oct 18, 2021 1:02 pm

I just bought some Hilton points. How long does it take for it to show up? The redemption details shows 3-4 weeks. Does it truly take that long?

yuel Oct 18, 2021 3:55 pm


Originally Posted by Ilove2fly (Post 33655038)
I just bought some Hilton points. How long does it take for it to show up? The redemption details shows 3-4 weeks. Does it truly take that long?

Never bought hilton, but choice points show up in a few hours.


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