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Liar Aug 2, 2012 10:48 am


Originally Posted by Mile-a-holic (Post 19046297)
So I sympathize: we couldn't afford a honeymoon and our first few anniversaries were within driving distance, so I really applaud your travel hacking approach. But a few questions:

1) Are you sure she'd agree that Hawaii is the best use of 130k miles? Or, would she prefer a different destination?
2) If you're carrying balances on other cards, will it mean you'll be stressed about other costs while in Hawaii? Would she/you rather go in a year when you can perhaps afford to splurge on a helicopter tour, or hop between the islands, buy a special souvenir, etc?

Is she the type that enjoys planning trips? Would she love spending two or three nights in a very upscale hotel (on points of course!) nearby for anniversary two, with the present being "let's plan a trip together anywhere for next year using miles and points?"

It's just food for thought - Hawaii is spectacular, and can be done relatively inexpensively if you rent a house or condo surprisingly. But if you're staying at a hotel, you want to be able to enjoy the pool and not be worried about the cost of ordering a drink or food, or skip things that you really want to do (whale watches, etc).

Yes totally agree. have those questions answered first :)

love2ft Aug 2, 2012 11:00 am

Good luck, OP in reaching your goal. You've received some great advice on this thread from all the posters.

I agree with the poster that asked how your wife feels about this trip. Mr. love2ft and I are finally going to Hawaii too...for our 10th anniversary and I'm okay with that. It may have taken us longer to get there, but now we don't have to worry about going into debt for a vacation nor do we have to pass up on any experiences/shopping while we're on our trip. Staycations are great when you're with the right person!

As you're new to the "game", make sure you pay down your debt as others have advised and avoid getting into new debt while you chase the miles/points. It's very easy to charge things "for the points", but your credit is more important than anything else!

squeakr Aug 2, 2012 11:23 am

I'm a little confused...seriously...
 
Now i only use miles/points for upgrades, not for tickets so I don't konw the world of reward tix at all.
BUT if you are spending 2-3000 /month on a CC, couldn't you save a couple of months worth and buy two C tickets?

mnscout Aug 2, 2012 10:34 pm


Originally Posted by squeakr (Post 19047588)
Now i only use miles/points for upgrades, not for tickets so I don't konw the world of reward tix at all.
BUT if you are spending 2-3000 /month on a CC, couldn't you save a couple of months worth and buy two C tickets?

The point is to buy stuff you need anyway.

sharka Aug 3, 2012 3:10 pm


Originally Posted by Jesperss (Post 19041772)
I went through the same thing a year ago.

I added my wife as an AU to three cards (using her SSN) with a long credit history and within a few months she had a score of 740. ^

Not sure about this as putting anyone as an AU will not affect their credit score. The person responsible for the AU is still the primary user. Thats why whenever you want to add an AU all the CC company wants is their name. I've never been asked for even the SS # for any AU and its the SS# thats needed to track one's credit history. Only having a joint CC acct where both are responsible will affect the other persons credit.

AlohaDaveKennedy Aug 3, 2012 3:19 pm

But me and my SO worry about going into debt for vacation all the time. What credit cards do we need to get? How much do we need to spend to get our miles and points? And what will we pull from our bag of tricks to manufacture the spend. Oh, it keeps us up half the night, all that worrying. And then it is the airlines and banks turn to worry.:D


Originally Posted by love2ft (Post 19047422)
... now we don't have to worry about going into debt for a vacation...


mnscout Aug 3, 2012 7:16 pm


Originally Posted by sharka (Post 19055053)
Not sure about this as putting anyone as an AU will not affect their credit score. The person responsible for the AU is still the primary user. Thats why whenever you want to add an AU all the CC company wants is their name. I've never been asked for even the SS # for any AU and its the SS# thats needed to track one's credit history. Only having a joint CC acct where both are responsible will affect the other persons credit.

+1. However, one has to remember that having a joint account is a big no-no in this... well, hobby.:D

rcross23 Aug 3, 2012 9:17 pm


Originally Posted by mnscout (Post 19056194)
+1. However, one has to remember that having a joint account is a big no-no in this... well, hobby.:D

Could you clarify this statement? As a newbie here, as well as recently engaged, it would be great if you could explain what you mean. Are you referring to joint bank accounts? Joint CCs? What is your reasoning? Thanks!

mnscout Aug 3, 2012 10:54 pm


Originally Posted by rcross23 (Post 19056587)
Could you clarify this statement? As a newbie here, as well as recently engaged, it would be great if you could explain what you mean. Are you referring to joint bank accounts? Joint CCs? What is your reasoning? Thanks!

LOL, it's very easy, really. A joint CC account equals one sign up bonus. Two separate CC accounts equal 2 sign up bonuses. Nothing against joint bank accounts, though. Go crazy!:D

peggster Aug 4, 2012 7:55 am


Originally Posted by sharka (Post 19055053)
Not sure about this as putting anyone as an AU will not affect their credit score. The person responsible for the AU is still the primary user. Thats why whenever you want to add an AU all the CC company wants is their name. I've never been asked for even the SS # for any AU and its the SS# thats needed to track one's credit history. Only having a joint CC acct where both are responsible will affect the other persons credit.

Interesting. My parents recently added me as an authorized user on their Amex account. Amex asked for my SS#, and the account is now appearing on my credit report, showing me as an authorized user. Maybe this is a YMMV thing?

Father-of-3 Aug 4, 2012 8:33 pm

Newbie in a Predicament
 
I've PM'd you some good stuff that I don't want to post and get yelled at to hush...

sharka Aug 6, 2012 10:04 am


Originally Posted by peggster (Post 19058121)
Interesting. My parents recently added me as an authorized user on their Amex account. Amex asked for my SS#, and the account is now appearing on my credit report, showing me as an authorized user. Maybe this is a YMMV thing?

Then yes, in your case it was YMMV.
Myself and many others have added AU to our CC accts and never once was even asked for the AU social #.
I've added AU's to amex cards (for promotions of course) and Amex never ask for SS#, just the persons name.
If the cc company did ask for the AU SS# then I could see that as a reason why it would affect the AU's credit report.

GoGreen Aug 6, 2012 1:23 pm


Originally Posted by sharka (Post 19068909)
Then yes, in your case it was YMMV.
Myself and many others have added AU to our CC accts and never once was even asked for the AU social #.
I've added AU's to amex cards (for promotions of course) and Amex never ask for SS#, just the persons name.
If the cc company did ask for the AU SS# then I could see that as a reason why it would affect the AU's credit report.

Hmmm, as I recall, AMEX does ask for the ss number of the proposed authorized user, at least for those I've requested in the past couple of months. However most recently (last week) when I asked to have an AU put on a card, an explanatory pop-up popped up next to the ss number block (which was next to the name of the proposed new AU) and said "put in your ss number." Therefore I put in my own ss number. However for the first time ever, the AU was not immediately approved, it said I had to call. When I called the only question they asked was where to mail the new card. Who knows?

I am also an AU on a lot of cards and they do show up on my credit report, but as AU, so I don't think they affect me much. I know it's better not to be an AU but I do it because I have to meet the minimum spend on my spouse's cards. There is no hard pull for AU.

sharka Aug 6, 2012 2:37 pm


Originally Posted by GoGreen (Post 19070322)
I am also an AU on a lot of cards and they do show up on my credit report, but as AU, so I don't think they affect me much. I know it's better not to be an AU but I do it because I have to meet the minimum spend on my spouse's cards. There is no hard pull for AU.

I've also been an AU on many cards (for promotion bonus miles/points when they add AU to cards). It never affected my score at all. I was put as an AU on several family member's cards (5) all at the same time. Think it was the Chase UA Mileage card. My Score never changed at all for the next 3 months, then score dropped 3pts a month later but thats only because I had cancelled a card.

sharka Aug 6, 2012 2:42 pm


Originally Posted by GoGreen (Post 19070322)
. However most recently (last week) when I asked to have an AU put on a card, an explanatory pop-up popped up next to the ss number block (which was next to the name of the proposed new AU) and said "put in your ss number." Therefore I put in my own ss number. .



Asking to put in your own SS# for an AU maybe just a new way to update their computer system to ensure you are the one getting the bill as the primary user is responsible.


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