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Originally Posted by benzemalyonnais
(Post 18937245)
The spreadsheet would give the products reasonable values - like $10 not 50$ for lounge access.
I had lounge visits which - admittedly - had a "reasonable" value of $5 (typical price of a soft drink at a European airport). But I had others, which saved me full meal - perhaps $25. And occasionally, I spend a full day in the lounge, because I travel often in or to countries with poor flight connections. Working in a lounge then saves me, apart from food and drinks throughout the day, perhaps the equivalent of a day stay in a air-conditioned hotel room - this can easily amount to $200 ... and if you consider the value of the work I can charge to my customers you can almost add another zero ... So what is the "reasonable" value? 5, 25, 200 or 2000 ? |
Yes - I didn't count in my analysis either the cost savings of free wifi or the amount of work I was able to get done in lounges which was worth a lot more.
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Originally Posted by NYTA
(Post 18939617)
Yes - I didn't count in my analysis either the cost savings of free wifi or the amount of work I was able to get done in lounges which was worth a lot more.
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Where is there a shower at the skyclub?
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Originally Posted by NYTA
(Post 18939950)
Where is there a shower at the skyclub?
The main SC at DTW has a couple showers (which is the airport I land at on redeyes). Their locator tells you what SC's have showers: http://www.delta.com/traveling_check...ions/index.jsp I will be flying to London tomorrow night and due to my status with Delta will have one hour use of Yotel when I land Weds morning as well so I can at least shower and change after clearing customs. I know some airlines also have arrival lounges in international cities with showers. |
It depends on how much and how far you travel.
I've had 60K miles in about 2.5 months one year. Believe me, not having to wait in the TSA line, is a life saver. Not having to wait till the end to board a plane means I won't have to gate check my luggage. I had a co-worker once who gate checked his small suitcase and somehow they forgot to put it on the plane. Not a great thing when you are a business person traveling for work and you don't have your clothes. As far as First class vs economy, sometimes it's night and day. I can sleep, I can recline. I can relax. I might get free meals. I get treated better. Many times nobody sits next to me. I rarely sit next to screaming kids. When you fly multiple times per week and some of your flights are 5+ hours, it is worth it believe me. |
The no gate-checking is critical - I have had "Roadshows" with clients where we are in 3-4 cities in a 24 hour period and getting my carry-on luggage lost would be very problematic.
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Originally Posted by NYTA
(Post 18939950)
Where is there a shower at the skyclub?
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I think it's overrated among the current FT population -- many of whom are here for credit card offers, hotel status, etc. I certainly survive without status and while it would be nice, I don't go out of my way to get it because I don't fly enough to make it worthwhile and because of that I would rather save the cash by flying the cheapest fares.
If I were to fly enough and not have to spend too much more on fares to get elite status with one airline (or possibly get matched or a trial offer that would make it worth my time/money) I would probably stick with that one airline despite fares costing a little more. As it is now, I usually end up booking Southwest because it doesn't have change/cancellation and bag fees. The hundreds I save doing this pay for those upgrades where I really want the comfort. I might miss out on some international F redemption opportunities but it's so much faster and cheaper to earn miles through credit cards and other promos that again the money saved is more worth it to me. |
Originally Posted by NYTA
(Post 18939950)
Where is there a shower at the skyclub?
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Originally Posted by mgchan
(Post 18950442)
I think it's overrated among the current FT population -- many of whom are here for credit card offers, hotel status, etc. I certainly survive without status and while it would be nice, I don't go out of my way to get it because I don't fly enough to make it worthwhile and because of that I would rather save the cash by flying the cheapest fares.
If I were to fly enough and not have to spend too much more on fares to get elite status with one airline (or possibly get matched or a trial offer that would make it worth my time/money) I would probably stick with that one airline despite fares costing a little more. As it is now, I usually end up booking Southwest because it doesn't have change/cancellation and bag fees. The hundreds I save doing this pay for those upgrades where I really want the comfort. I might miss out on some international F redemption opportunities but it's so much faster and cheaper to earn miles through credit cards and other promos that again the money saved is more worth it to me. I also like taking advantage of all the promos that I can, and also understand how to get points from a non FF perspective, but I end up doing both when I am in Canada. Change fees are usually paid for by employer, however.
Originally Posted by tentseller
(Post 18950544)
JFK ATL DTW NRT are one's that I have showered in.
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Originally Posted by GuyverII
(Post 18930298)
Nothing super-special about elite status, just makes the bus trip a bit more bearable.
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Originally Posted by tentseller
(Post 18950544)
JFK ATL DTW NRT are one's that I have showered in.
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Originally Posted by NYTA
(Post 18952517)
Probably all airside - the problem is usually when I need a shower it's when I'm arriving from somewhere overseas and since I have to go through customs first, I likely can't get back in for those, with the exception of the Terminal 4 shower at JFK which is landside but isn't a DL club.
I plan to do just that tomorrow. |
I have done that at the Virgin arrivals lounge in London and it's great.
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