Yup, you got it right!

Cept it would be a big PR problem for them... but wait, why should they care? Heck 90% of this is all virtual/online anyway! You cant hardly even TALK to most places anymore except by email. (Take SquareUp for example) and so they could care less if they fail in the PR sector. As long as the books looked good--and cooked!

The mistake fare clause is their friend. I aim to change that.

Look, anyone can put up an link to Rebtel offering X. If it doesn't comply with Rebtel's affiliate T&C that's on the site linking to Rebtel (NOT Rebtel). It's very likely that Rebtel knew nothing about this offer as soon as they were made aware of it they told freecause to cease and desist. If you want your 792 miles then your recourse is with freecause or USAirways NOT Rebtel. USAirways has parted ways with freecause so good luck with that.

Funny you should bring up that argument/scenario.

I am one of over 100 people involved in a very similar conundrum involving online retail shopping ads that were up and running for more than a couple of weeks as offerings on two airline sites serviced by FreeCause (FC). INterestingly, some reported that many purchases in fact had yielded miles and only when they began to buy more did things begin to fall off. The ultimate tally would be resulting in miles with a bunch more zeros at the end as compared with this RebTel deal, but the fact is that once the retailer started to wonder why people were actually buying the products they offered in the puiblic domain, they pulled it without recoruse. Some peoples miles have been taken back, and for the rest of the group, miles have failed to come to fruition.

First the retailer denied having ANY relationship at all with anything mileage-based. We discovered that not only had they, but also their parent company did and actually still does have such relationships, and we all have screenshots and even videos of the actions we took online.

Then the retailer stated that they think some 'rouge affiliate' must have done something without their knowledge. No one would tell us anything on who this rouge is, but it was nice to see how the blame was passed and WE had to do the chasing. Classic scam. Later, we discovered this rogue was in fact FreeCause. As the lies mounted, the game went on... We are all still fighting it.

The new problem has been that now that we are all suddenly put in the middle and are having to contact all these parties where in fact, our original relationship is and should only be with the retailer, not anyone else: Our relationship with retailer X is different than the relationship between retailer X and FC.

I am appalled--regardless of how I shopped or what my 'intent' may have been thought to be--that today's supposed businesses are stooping to such levels and pulling out when their ill-designed promos and ads actually come up for collection.

You should be helping us go after the RebTels of the world instead of telling us we are either fools for buying on these sites, schemers for just trying to get miles, or that we now need to be investigators or that we have to do all the hard work just to get things back from these online scammers.

Sure, it's JUST 792 miles and people could just drop it.

But think of it this way:

say there are 200 people out there who signed up and some paid for services. Say the 792 miles is valued at $10.

That's $2,000.

That's some peoples' one month of a mortgage.

Do you like it that this company and or FC has just ripped off a months' mortgage? That they get to pocket it and party off that money or its commission? That their services get exposed and used and even paid into by people like you and I, and that others may have now bought other products once the RebTel name got some free exposure because they got to get away with ripping off a bunch of mile hounds?

If you do, I think you work for them.

I don't work for them, but heck I'd send you $10 just to allow you to move on with life.

I am just not sure how I would be ok with 'moving on with my life' if I stop trying to get what is due to me. Are you saying I need to STOP trying to type stuff that pertains to many many offers out there that have been put forth to promise something but are bogus and potentially ripping people off? That my stopping this will somehow put YOU at ease? And if I do that you will send me $10?

Ok well first, please note this: I may have actually decided to never again shop online for miles at any website because it's just not worth it. But first I need to recoup all that is owed to me. Surely, assuming all my current claims are valid in anyone's eyes, you would agree I should work on that, right?

From actual purchases across several airline promos/portals and the like, working through Cartera and FreeCause shopping offers for which many people, self included, have documented solid proof of valid activity, that would come to something around 2 million miles owed to me alone. I know people who are owed far far more.

(things from purchases done online with various airline promos and mall portals from Spring to October--most of which began BEFORE we all knew what a Cartera or a FreeCause even was.)

Do some math on what those may be worth. Cartera's own law firm, for example, says they value a mile to be $0.03. So, US$ 0.03 x 2,000,000 = 60,000 U.S. dollars.

Send me THAT amount and then yes, I will stop. Oh wait, first pay all the other people who are waiting on the money or miles in their own plights, and then try to educate the rest of the masses on why no one should shop at these malls again. What I am 'wasting my time on' (stuff you do not need to read, btw) is my own choice to try and help people in this thread (which I remind you I didn't even partake in its offer and so I have nothing to gain or lose on this US Airways/RebTel gig) is possible help/assistance with how to get their miles due and aid in bringing down those that would scam them in the first place (FreeCause, for example) What I do may help and maybe it does not, but it is VERY MUCh related to all other things you see in many other threads that many FTers have been battling with that have to do with missing miles totaling in the millions.

PM me your info and we can PayPal. heck, I'll even let you pay with a CC so you can earn miles on the charge and I take the % hit.

same here, 2 requests and nothing