Originally Posted by UA Fan (Post 13621979)

Whats DW?

Originally Posted by eponymous_coward (Post 13621733)

That's nice, but for some people, WN is perfectly acceptable for domestic travel, and they get more than enough miles to get travel outside the US as well.

FWIW, I find RR to be a very nice place to bank rental car/hotel airline awards. It's easy to get $50 of RR value back with a hotel room and car rental over a weekend. 50/100/150 miles at a click doesn't move the needle much compared to 1-2 RR credits.

Originally Posted by alhcfp (Post 13619687)

I am looking for a nice way to explain to a Kettle why "I can't just use miles to go to LAS"

How can they understand that:

1) Spending $300 for AUS-DFW-LAS (3,000 EQM) is a bad use of $$$ I
would use on MR.

2) I won't use MR funds until AA offers fare sales and DBLEQM to bounce
back after an FA Strike.

3) I will not use 25,000 miles for a $300 tkt, because:
a) I won't sit in coach and its not worth 50k for FC
b) Chances are milesaver is not available and I won't pay double
c) I only use miles on a 3-1 cost if I have no other choice- . ie: AUS- PTY $500 tkt (ow) = 15k miles
d) I need 100,000 BIS EQM miles to requalify EXP.
e) If I burn miles I prefer 10:1 spend, such as 100k miles for $10,000
J or F ticket.

3) You (mr / ms Kettle) telling me how to use miles is like me telling Donald Trump how to renegotiate a real estate loan.

PS- and I want to say it NICELY!!!

Originally Posted by alhcfp (Post 13620222)

If I really wanted to go to LAS, I would buy tkt. When I said something along lines of; "Its NOT worth the $$$ to go" then the "why not use miles" statement was made.

We have all been there. We have a different monetary value on miles then the Kettles.

Just looking for nice, maybe even cute way of explaining.

Originally Posted by tenn_ace (Post 13620053)

Calling someone kettle is usually not a good starter for a discussion, no?

Originally Posted by bniu (Post 13622929)

you got a point but my main beef with RR would be that the credits expire one year after issue (not sure if you can extend once) and I don't like the fact that there's nothing i can do to stave off expiration whereas airline miles I can essentially keep forever by having activity every few months. Also my travel patters are extremely sporadic, I can fly 50K miles one year, not fly at all the next two, then fly 80K miles another year and then nothing. I think AA's lifetime benefit will help me the most, then i don't have to worry about maintaining status, achieving it is no problem for me, it's maintaining it that i can't seem to do very well...

Originally Posted by maggersmagoo (Post 13626787)

What is a Kettle? If I have to ask I'm sure it means I am one.

Originally Posted by maggersmagoo (Post 13626787)

What is a Kettle? If I have to ask I'm sure it means I am one.

Originally Posted by WRCSolberg (Post 13619902)

I hope I don't sound this conceited when I converse with the lowly peasents....

Originally Posted by ArizonaGuy (Post 13629679)

Reference to Ma and Pa Kettle. In FlyerTalk parlance, it's a bit derogatory and refers to highly infrequent travelers,

Originally Posted by bniu (Post 13622929)

http://bodybuilderspro.info/pictures...818/random.gifyou got a point but my main beef with RR would be that the credits expire one year after issue (not sure if you can extend once) and I don't like the fact that there's nothing i can do to stave off expiration whereas airline miles I can essentially keep forever by having activity every few months. Also my travel patters are extremely sporadic, I can fly 50K miles one year, not fly at all the next two, then fly 80K miles another year and then nothing. I think AA's lifetime benefit will help me the most, then i don't have to worry about maintaining status, achieving it is no problem for me, it's maintaining it that i can't seem to do very well...

Originally Posted by Gamecock (Post 13632357)

If I may be so bold to build on what you wrote:



who tend to gum up the system for the rest of us.
They usually carry overweight suitcases, wander into elite security lines and will run up to board while First Class and/or elites are boarding.

Inevitably they will board the plane with a BP for 34A and stop at row 1, and look at their BP, just to confirm that 34A in not in the front. They repeat the process every 2-3 rows.

Originally Posted by CruzinAway (Post 13634354)

From what you have written, I believe I have gleaned what is happening here:

Just tell your in-laws (The Kettles) you don't want to go to Vegas with them.

You don't want to use money, miles, certificates, coupons or any other means of payment. You just don't want to go.

Originally Posted by Gamecock (Post 13632357)

If I may be so bold to build on what you wrote:



who tend to gum up the system for the rest of us.
They usually carry overweight suitcases, wander into elite security lines and will run up to board while First Class and/or elites are boarding.

Inevitably they will board the plane with a BP for 34A and stop at row 1, and look at their BP, just to confirm that 34A in not in the front. They repeat the process every 2-3 rows.