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bombayhog Dec 11, 2009 1:39 pm

PBS Version of FF Documentary - Invitation to Join Debate
 
Hi all. Some of you may have already seen my documentary "Frequent Flyer", linked to in my signature. I thought you might be interested to know, since it's a movie revolving around FT, that there's now a shorter version (13 minutes or so) up on the PBS Frontline/World website, here:

http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/ro...feet_freq.html

Quite aside from the shameless self-promotion, the reason I'm mentioning it here is that most of the comments on there so far are from people who feel that our miles-collecting hobby is highly damaging to the environment. I personally tend to think that it's easy to beat up on airplanes without seeing the complexity of the situation. I'm totally open to debate on this, so I'd love to have some FTers go over there and join in the discussion, however you might feel on the issue. I suppose what I'm thinking is that the typical PBS audience (with exceptions of course) is going to be a bit one-sided on this, and maybe we could get some people who actually do mileage runs and the like to liven up the discussion a bit. So this is my invitation to everyone here to check out this new version and let me (and the world) know what you think.

And thanks for all the support so far!

Dilemma Dec 11, 2009 2:10 pm

Love the video! I also posted in support of our hobby. We'll see if my comment is one of those selected to be posted.

Short hair Francis Dec 11, 2009 5:06 pm

Well, I posted too give one more insight from the flyertalk side of things. I said your frequent flyer documentary and "Up in the air" was the most influencial visual ff thing this year. Keep up the good work!

b1513 Dec 11, 2009 5:44 pm

Great video. Thanks for sharing.

dhammer53 Dec 11, 2009 7:19 pm


Originally Posted by bombayhog (Post 12968833)
there's now a shorter version (13 minutes or so)


Nooooooooooo The original is 20 minutes of pure bliss, not to mention many of us love the music.

MrHalliday Dec 11, 2009 10:33 pm

Seriously, very nice work !

This could help to explain ourselves to others.
Except we already know that is futile.

All those nasty comments; the same morality hijack
that follows all good fare mistakes or hotel "deals".

Might as well give up showing this to anyone ouside our world.
We are the bottom feeders. :eek:

Now I'm going back and watch the longer version.
Can't get enough. :D

RedSox Dec 12, 2009 12:01 am

Saw the video earlier last month. Nicely done. Posted some comments, that will never see the light of day over there. But I feel better for it.

Astrophsx Dec 12, 2009 5:26 am

I really enjoyed watching the original video and thank you for creating it. The part where Randy talks about how having miles gives you freedom is very true!

Knowing that I could could book a first class flight to visit another country on a whim is an awesome feeling to have! You can tell people the things you will do to earn miles and they will most likely think you are crazy.... and then they will ask you if they can get a free ticket to fly somewhere!

bombayhog Dec 12, 2009 11:39 am

Thanks a lot everyone, your comments mean a lot to me!

By the way if you make a comment on the PBS site, I don't think they're screening out anything apart from the usual crazy stuff and SPAM, so your comments should make it up there. And if they don't, I will take it up with them.

PTravel Dec 12, 2009 12:12 pm

I just watched the 20-minute version. What excellent work! Of course, the subject matter is appealing to me, but as an artistic piece I thought this was work of the highest quality! I'm curious -- what did you shoot it with?

bombayhog Dec 12, 2009 12:17 pm


Originally Posted by PTravel (Post 12973469)
I just watched the 20-minute version. What excellent work! Of course, the subject matter is appealing to me, but as an artistic piece I thought this was work of the highest quality! I'm curious -- what did you shoot it with?

Thanks PTravel. Shot it on two different Panasonic HD cameras which record onto P2 cards instead of tape, one compact and ideal for inside airplanes and solo shoots (the HVX-170), and the other quite large, with a great lens, for shooting airfields and interviews (the HPX500).

MrHalliday Dec 12, 2009 12:27 pm

How strong do anti-aviation environmentalists express themselves?
....watch the 1-minute video "plane truth" at the link below:

http://thelifebrowser.independentmin...com/32454.html

benzguy80 Dec 13, 2009 9:07 am

this video is well done, kudos Gordon!

I just shared the link with the AAngels at the AUS club as well as family and friends

the AAngels were enthusiastic over the PR aspects. maybe some of the rest (fam & friends) will at least understand a bit about the motivation behind my quest for EXP and the perqs

[writing this while chilling at AUS club, waiting to fly to BOS via DFW, upgraded on both segs]

TrueBlueFlyer Dec 13, 2009 2:07 pm

great job man!

putongo Dec 13, 2009 2:19 pm

Thanks for the great documentary. Good to know I'm not the only one obsessed by miles!!!


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