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Jimgotkp Oct 29, 2009 1:53 pm

Most Prestigious FF Card/Level
 
I was wondering which FF card/level would be the most prestigious/hardest to obtain/be? This is just out of plain curiosity.

aacharya Oct 29, 2009 1:56 pm


Originally Posted by Jimgotkp (Post 12732912)
I was wondering which FF card/level would be the most prestigious/hardest to obtain/be? This is just out of plain curiosity.

I think you have to lump into two categories:

Lifetime levels (Million Miler, etc)

Annual levels (CO*, United GS, etc)

What you probably are looking after are the CO* and United GS-type levels.
CO*'s are pretty impressive to me (they are almost automatically CO Plats).

WBurcham Oct 29, 2009 2:52 pm

Delta has an Executive Partner level with VIP handling & lots of irregular operation assistance along with significant upgrade priority.

Happy Oct 29, 2009 3:39 pm

AA has Concierge Key, probably similar to United's GS.

mbreuer Oct 29, 2009 3:57 pm

I believe that CO has a Chairman's card - been discussed occasionally.

In general, the *most* prestigious is probably by definition one that we know nothing about :)

Janus Oct 29, 2009 4:47 pm

Many airlines give their current/former execs crazy perks like unlimited FC seats for X years after leaving company.

Evan! Oct 29, 2009 5:24 pm

Delta has an invitation-only level called Executive Partner (called EP on FT). There is no published criteria for membership. From browsing the DL forum I understand an invitation is hand delivered but I'm not sure if that's just folklore. With the new Diamond Level with DL I'm not sure if EP will continue but since it is supposedly based on revenue and not miles flown I suspect it will stay and will continue to be a secretive club.

halothane Oct 29, 2009 5:42 pm


Originally Posted by Happy (Post 12733593)
AA has Concierge Key, probably similar to United's GS.

Concierge Key is not quite the same as Global Service.

SFflyer123 Oct 29, 2009 11:55 pm


Originally Posted by halothane (Post 12734239)
Concierge Key is not quite the same as Global Service.

Which one is better?

goback Oct 30, 2009 3:15 am

QF has Chairman's Lounge. But it seems to be dolled out to every politician in the country - so I'm not sure I'd like to be in that special lounge. I believe that the perks are good - over and above QF's highest level of Platinum.

Aldebaran Oct 30, 2009 5:02 am


Originally Posted by aacharya (Post 12732944)
I think you have to lump into two categories:

Lifetime levels (Million Miler, etc)

Annual levels (CO*, United GS, etc)

What you probably are looking after are the CO* and United GS-type levels.
CO*'s are pretty impressive to me (they are almost automatically CO Plats).

In my opinion one of the hardest to obtain, based on annual levels and not on revenue or "by invitation only" is the Lufthansa HON Circle. You need to accrue 600.000 HON qualifying miles in two years.

halothane Oct 30, 2009 11:43 am


Originally Posted by SFflyer123 (Post 12735732)
Which one is better?

One Mile at at Time

Read the post written by luckycoins about Concierge Key vs. Global Service.



Halothane

Jimgotkp Oct 30, 2009 3:46 pm

Wow. This was all very interesting. Thanks for all your input guys :)

Seated in First Oct 30, 2009 4:47 pm

BA Premier - not even attainable by flying but controlling ca. £2m p.a. in revenue to BA. Around 1200 members worldwide and membership must be approved by the BOD.

gleff Oct 30, 2009 6:00 pm

Here in the US there's UA UGS, AA Concierge Key, Delta Executive Partner.. all more interesting than CO *.

I'd say my favorite status is Avis Chairman.

DaDaDan Oct 31, 2009 7:31 am


Originally Posted by Aldebaran (Post 12736316)
In my opinion one of the hardest to obtain, based on annual levels and not on revenue or "by invitation only" is the Lufthansa HON Circle. You need to accrue 600.000 HON qualifying miles in two years.

This is the one I was going to name. Some of the published benefits are pretty crazy. In Frankfurt, you can check in at the First Class terminal, which is nice and all, but then you proceed outside where a chauffer drives you across in a Mercedes or Porche directly to the aircraft for boarding, which is awesome.

http://www.miles-and-more.com/online...l=en&cid=10001

http://www.honcircle.com/tour/index_e.html

ctownflyer Nov 1, 2009 11:35 am


Originally Posted by gleff (Post 12740168)
I'd say my favorite status is Avis Chairman.

+1

GadgetFreak Nov 1, 2009 7:18 pm

No one has mentioned Costco General Member.

mahasamatman Nov 1, 2009 8:20 pm

Any card on Virgin Galactic would be the most prestigious.

GadgetFreak Nov 1, 2009 8:25 pm

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Originally Posted by mahasamatman
Any card on Virgin Galactic would be the most prestigious.

You are of course correct.

Janus Nov 1, 2009 8:43 pm


Originally Posted by mahasamatman (Post 12750362)
Any card on Virgin Galactic would be the most prestigious.

Is that earned based on segments or miles? :P

alanh Nov 1, 2009 9:59 pm

Virgin Galactic is probably the only program that offers only round-the-world trips.:D

mahasamatman Nov 1, 2009 10:02 pm


Originally Posted by alanh (Post 12750798)
Virgin Galactic is probably the only program that offers only round-the-world trips.

Maybe in the distant future, but the current spacecraft is sub-orbital - just up and down.

alanh Nov 1, 2009 10:07 pm

Well, so much for that mileage run idea. Thanks.

icydog Nov 2, 2009 8:42 am


Originally Posted by aacharya (Post 12732944)
I think you have to lump into two categories:

Lifetime levels (Million Miler, etc)

Annual levels (CO*, United GS, etc)

What you probably are looking after are the CO* and United GS-type levels.
CO*'s are pretty impressive to me (they are almost automatically CO Plats).


I don't know what the CO* card is. I have the Presidential Plus card but it doesn't get me any extra miles. Is it something you earn or something you pay for? Thanks..

dkelly1110 Nov 2, 2009 9:14 am


Originally Posted by icydog (Post 12752591)
I don't know what the CO* card is. I have the Presidential Plus card but it doesn't get me any extra miles. Is it something you earn or something you pay for? Thanks..

It is not a card, but a designation that one attains by generating considerable revenue for the airline.

icydog Nov 2, 2009 12:22 pm


Originally Posted by dkelly1110 (Post 12752789)
It is not a card, but a designation that one attains by generating considerable revenue for the airline.

As in a corporate travel agent who would significantly affect the CO bottom line by only buying CO tickets for their personnel. Is that what you mean?

mbreuer Nov 2, 2009 12:27 pm


Originally Posted by icydog (Post 12754183)
As in a corporate travel agent who would significantly affect the CO bottom line by only buying CO tickets for their personnel. Is that what you mean?

Lots of discussions in the CO forum... basically, it's a notation attached to those customers who bring in some defined percentage of revenue over some defined period of time. No card, but does show on the flight manifest.

bodory Nov 3, 2009 9:53 am


Originally Posted by Aldebaran (Post 12736316)
In my opinion one of the hardest to obtain, based on annual levels and not on revenue or "by invitation only" is the Lufthansa HON Circle. You need to accrue 600.000 HON qualifying miles in two years.

I second that. You could also add SQ Solitaire PPS Club card.

As of by-invitation only for European airlines you have (to name a few) :
- AF/KL : Club 2000 / Skipper
- BA : Premier

The latter being much more exclusive and providing many more benefits than the former. There are 12,000 Club 2000 members for instance... far from the 2000 initial members of the "Club", even if KL Skippers have being integrated since the merger of FFPs

Kiwi Flyer Nov 3, 2009 10:09 am

As well as the above, many (most) airlines have unpublished status levels with additional benefits over the highest publicised FF tier.

mahasamatman Nov 3, 2009 2:27 pm


Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer (Post 12759730)
many (most) airlines have unpublished status levels with additional benefits over the highest publicised FF tier.

Maybe a detail, but aren't most of those granted and administered outside the FF programs, and therefore outside the rules? I know UA's GS is.

JerryFF Nov 3, 2009 2:35 pm

I've seen another designation from United on the account status of several well known CEO's - the letters "VIP". I have no idea what that gets them and how it relates to other designations such as GS.

pinniped Nov 3, 2009 3:11 pm

OK, all of the big airlines have basically the same thing: a super-exclusive VIP club with members invited for reasons other than simply EQM.

Of the EQM-based levels only, I think LH HON is probably the best published tier I've ever seen.

babunny Nov 30, 2009 9:35 am


Originally Posted by Seated in First (Post 12739828)
BA Premier - not even attainable by flying but controlling ca. £2m p.a. in revenue to BA. Around 1200 members worldwide and membership must be approved by the BOD.

I have to back you up on this. The Premier Card in the top. The group of people who have the card worldwide is under 800. Not even revenue now gets you in the club now.

GadgetFreak Nov 30, 2009 9:54 am

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Originally Posted by babunny

Originally Posted by Seated in First (Post 12739828)
BA Premier - not even attainable by flying but controlling ca. £2m p.a. in revenue to BA. Around 1200 members worldwide and membership must be approved by the BOD.

I have to back you up on this. The Premier Card in the top. The group of people who have the card worldwide is under 800. Not even revenue now gets you in the club now.

Well why is it prestigious? If I print up a card for GadgetFreaks frequent flyers and hand 4 out at strip clubs is that more prestigious since there are less than 800? The whole thing seems random and silly to me.

mybagfits Dec 1, 2009 12:19 pm

Does US Airways have anything?
 
When I still had Chairmans Pref I sat next to someone who had been given CP for life. Fly several million miles. Not sure they do anything anymore for million mile flyers. Heck, Cust Serv can't even look up how many you've flown and tell us to check our statements. I'm getting close but no one at the airline can say for sure

Diplomatico Dec 1, 2009 3:40 pm


Originally Posted by GadgetFreak (Post 12899677)
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Well why is it prestigious? If I print up a card for GadgetFreaks frequent flyers and hand 4 out at strip clubs is that more prestigious since there are less than 800? The whole thing seems random and silly to me.

And I thank you for mine. Who are the other three? :D

meFIRST Dec 2, 2009 9:39 pm

Seriously IMHO

US Based
AA Concierge Key
UA Global Services
DL Exec Partner
CO STAR hr & CO Chairman Circle

Europe

BA Premier Card
LH HON Circle
AF Club 2000
KLM Skipper

Asia
SQ PPS & PPS Solitaire

Most of these are revenue based and or VIP courtesy.

meFIRST Dec 2, 2009 9:57 pm


Originally Posted by icydog (Post 12752591)
I don't know what the CO* card is. I have the Presidential Plus card but it doesn't get me any extra miles. Is it something you earn or something you pay for? Thanks..

You don't get a card. it's a designation on the co system - the agents can see this and often go out of there way to be a BIG help, esp at IAH.
Not all CO* are plats, just like not all UA GS's are 1Ks .

It's revenue based.

BobbySteel Dec 3, 2009 8:57 am


Originally Posted by GadgetFreak (Post 12899677)
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Well why is it prestigious? If I print up a card for GadgetFreaks frequent flyers and hand 4 out at strip clubs is that more prestigious since there are less than 800? The whole thing seems random and silly to me.

It's perfectly British though to create a private super-secret members-only club for the sake of doing so. The perks of BA Premier aren't much given the exclusivity, if you believe things you read here.


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