How to MR without really trying?
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How to MR without really trying?
I am doing my third MR this coming weekend, and I have a few questions for the professionals.
My itinerary is:
Paid $490, including the use of a 10% off coupon.
Question #1. My outbound flight has a stop and a plane change in ORD, and I am getting jobbed on the "direct flight" mileage bit. I have read that if I can get another flight to ORD with a different flight number, they will credit me for the two flights instead of just the faux SEA-LHR route. With such a cheap S class ticket, what is my best strategy to get united to do this?
Question #2. Somewhat related to question 1, but .bomb is showing only 4 open seats for the initial SEA-ORD leg of the flight. Seatcounter shows more availability than that, but who really knows. If that is not possible, what are the odds of trying to get a VDB with a refund/credit towards future flights and credit for miles flown on the itinerary in lieu of VDB compensation? That would, in essence, make it a MR without really flying or spending money...if they would go for it.
If anyone has a creative ideas on how to solve either problem, please let me know.
Thanks!
My itinerary is:
Fri, Feb 29, 2008 - SEA to MUC
United 0958
Depart: SEA 08:10 AM
Arrive: LHR 05:55 AM
Next day
Mar 1 1-stop
11h 28m
Plane change
4,801 miles traveled
Booking class: S
Flight: Confirmed 16A, 26A
<<< connecting to >>>
United 9228
Operated by: Deutsche Lufthansa Ag
Depart: LHR 09:35 AM
Arrive: MUC 12:20 PM Non-stop
1h 45m
Airbus A321
590 miles traveled
Booking class: S
Flight: Confirmed N/A
Sun, Mar 02, 2008 - MUC to SEA
United 8855
Operated by: Deutsche Lufthansa Ag
Depart: MUC 09:00 AM
Arrive: ORD 12:00 PM Non-stop
10h
Airbus A330-300
4,535 miles traveled
Booking class: S
Flight: Confirmed 37K
<<< connecting to >>>
United 0575
Depart: ORD 03:00 PM
Arrive: SEA 05:28 PM Non-stop
4h 28m
Boeing 757-200
1,721 miles traveled
Booking class: S
Flight: Confirmed 16F
United 0958
Depart: SEA 08:10 AM
Arrive: LHR 05:55 AM
Next day
Mar 1 1-stop
11h 28m
Plane change
4,801 miles traveled
Booking class: S
Flight: Confirmed 16A, 26A
<<< connecting to >>>
United 9228
Operated by: Deutsche Lufthansa Ag
Depart: LHR 09:35 AM
Arrive: MUC 12:20 PM Non-stop
1h 45m
Airbus A321
590 miles traveled
Booking class: S
Flight: Confirmed N/A
Sun, Mar 02, 2008 - MUC to SEA
United 8855
Operated by: Deutsche Lufthansa Ag
Depart: MUC 09:00 AM
Arrive: ORD 12:00 PM Non-stop
10h
Airbus A330-300
4,535 miles traveled
Booking class: S
Flight: Confirmed 37K
<<< connecting to >>>
United 0575
Depart: ORD 03:00 PM
Arrive: SEA 05:28 PM Non-stop
4h 28m
Boeing 757-200
1,721 miles traveled
Booking class: S
Flight: Confirmed 16F
Question #1. My outbound flight has a stop and a plane change in ORD, and I am getting jobbed on the "direct flight" mileage bit. I have read that if I can get another flight to ORD with a different flight number, they will credit me for the two flights instead of just the faux SEA-LHR route. With such a cheap S class ticket, what is my best strategy to get united to do this?
Question #2. Somewhat related to question 1, but .bomb is showing only 4 open seats for the initial SEA-ORD leg of the flight. Seatcounter shows more availability than that, but who really knows. If that is not possible, what are the odds of trying to get a VDB with a refund/credit towards future flights and credit for miles flown on the itinerary in lieu of VDB compensation? That would, in essence, make it a MR without really flying or spending money...if they would go for it.
If anyone has a creative ideas on how to solve either problem, please let me know.
Thanks!
Last edited by marinersdave; Feb 24, 2008 at 10:24 pm
#2




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If you want to get to the airport very early, there is UA 1210 that leaves SEA for ORD at 6:35. You might get there and try to go standby on that flight, which would likely give you the credit for the two separate legs.
The KVS tool is showing quite a bit of availability for the SEA-ORD leg that you are currently booked on. I'm not sure where you are seeing the 4 open seats, but if you are looking at seat maps, those are notoriously misleading.
If you were in a VDB situation, I think the best they would offer would be a certificate good for a free flight later, or a "$ off" coupon. I have never run across anyone offering a refund.
I think you could have some good success with the early standby to get you the full miles credit, and that is likely as good as you will do with this itinerary.
The KVS tool is showing quite a bit of availability for the SEA-ORD leg that you are currently booked on. I'm not sure where you are seeing the 4 open seats, but if you are looking at seat maps, those are notoriously misleading.
If you were in a VDB situation, I think the best they would offer would be a certificate good for a free flight later, or a "$ off" coupon. I have never run across anyone offering a refund.
I think you could have some good success with the early standby to get you the full miles credit, and that is likely as good as you will do with this itinerary.
#3
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I think you're right. I'll get there super early and try for that flight or try to get routed through the 6am to DEN or SFO to ORD. Is it possible to get on standby lists via phone before the day of the departure, or is that a gate-only-on-the-day-of-departure function?
And yes, I was using the notoriously misleading seat maps.
And yes, I was using the notoriously misleading seat maps.
Last edited by marinersdave; Feb 24, 2008 at 8:00 pm
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To narrow your chances down I would ask the CI agent friendly how the loads look like, maybe even check with EF beforehand.
If evertything is full you might have the chance for a VDB. Not sure if on national routes, but on my ORD-FRA last week I took a cash check of 400$ ^
If evertything is full you might have the chance for a VDB. Not sure if on national routes, but on my ORD-FRA last week I took a cash check of 400$ ^
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You would either just go to the airport early, or United does have a "confirmed standby" offering, described here. I don't use that, so I don't know that much about the details, other than it costs $50 for general members. I don't know if your 1P status gives you a discount or anything - the details may be in the referenced thread.
If there are still seats being sold in the cheap fare buckets, you might just not pay the fee and hang out at the gate for an old-fashioned standby. As a 1P, you should have pretty good priority.
#6
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The United timetables show the following options for SEA-ORD the morning of 2/29:
So, I plan on showing up super early and with a little 1P luck and a very friendly CI agent, hopefully I can route to ORD on something other than my original "direct" flight.
6:00am UA696 to DEN, then 244 to ORD
6:00am UA31 to SFO, then 134 to ORD
6:35am UA1210 non-stop to ORD
7:02am UA5787 to ODX, then 722 to ORD
6:00am UA31 to SFO, then 134 to ORD
6:35am UA1210 non-stop to ORD
7:02am UA5787 to ODX, then 722 to ORD
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You can get on the standby list with OLCI. However, not sure if it will be possible on this type of itinerary (international, plus a single flight number).
#9
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Thanks for the ideas.

