Is there a website or other source that shows fare classes and miles?
#1
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Join Date: Jul 2019
Posts: 90
Is there a website or other source that shows fare classes and miles?
Hi everyone,
new to the vigorous status game, planning ahead for possibly making a run or two toward the end of the year to get over the hump for United platinum. In the course of planning this out, I’ve been monitoring deal sites for star alliance partners to try to make use of that loophole where you can earn disproportionate PQP on cheap long-haul partner flights.
But… it’s freaking impossible to figure out what earnings will be. The mileage plus partner PQP earnings are based on mileage earned, which in turn is based on fare class and distance. But like *none* of the star alliance airlines seem to provide this information anywhere reasonably accessible while shopping for flights. It’s either buried or only accessible right before you click pay on the credit card maybe? At best, all I’m ever able to find before actually buying a ticket or coming right up to it is some marketing name for a fare that doesn’t indicate the actual fare class, and then use google to find the number of air miles to guess at what the airline will count as the distance. But this is hardly reliable if one is looking to make a run.
So how do people manage this? Do any of the aggregators (Expedia, orbitz, kayak, credit card portals, etc etc etc) provide this information? Is there some trick? Do you literally just have to buy the ticket and cancel if it turns out to be some crap earning (at least until the bank puts a fraud flag on your card for buying and cancelling dozens of tickets in a day)?
new to the vigorous status game, planning ahead for possibly making a run or two toward the end of the year to get over the hump for United platinum. In the course of planning this out, I’ve been monitoring deal sites for star alliance partners to try to make use of that loophole where you can earn disproportionate PQP on cheap long-haul partner flights.
But… it’s freaking impossible to figure out what earnings will be. The mileage plus partner PQP earnings are based on mileage earned, which in turn is based on fare class and distance. But like *none* of the star alliance airlines seem to provide this information anywhere reasonably accessible while shopping for flights. It’s either buried or only accessible right before you click pay on the credit card maybe? At best, all I’m ever able to find before actually buying a ticket or coming right up to it is some marketing name for a fare that doesn’t indicate the actual fare class, and then use google to find the number of air miles to guess at what the airline will count as the distance. But this is hardly reliable if one is looking to make a run.
So how do people manage this? Do any of the aggregators (Expedia, orbitz, kayak, credit card portals, etc etc etc) provide this information? Is there some trick? Do you literally just have to buy the ticket and cancel if it turns out to be some crap earning (at least until the bank puts a fraud flag on your card for buying and cancelling dozens of tickets in a day)?
#2




Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 426
United platinum in worthless (as compared to Gold).
Once you figure out booking class (https://oldmatrix.itasoftware.com/ or https://matrix.itasoftware.com/), go to https://pqp.economiles.com/
Once you figure out booking class (https://oldmatrix.itasoftware.com/ or https://matrix.itasoftware.com/), go to https://pqp.economiles.com/
#3
Original Poster




Join Date: Jul 2019
Posts: 90
Thank you! Curious why you say platinum is worthless? I'll make gold pretty easily this year, but platinum will be a stretch... mostly interested in platinum for the real chance at upgrades but if I'm thinking about it wrong...
#4




Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 426
Read elsewhere about real chances for an upgrade and how many competitors you have to beat on the way (often 1K competitors). There are several places or blogs describing it (or even here on FT). If you mean those 40 points, it is a joke, not a bonus.


