Dec 31, 2018, 2:35 am
Last edit by: Tokyoite
SITI ticketing restrictions lifted as on 7/15/2019.
Can now once again ticket on your favorite OTA!
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Sorry for the long length post.
The full fare rules for XNN0N4CE just for future reference. 150 USD cancel and generous change rules at 100 USD only will come into play in case of disputes with OTAs. (as per the previous RGN fare?)
Can now once again ticket on your favorite OTA!
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Sorry for the long length post.
The full fare rules for XNN0N4CE just for future reference. 150 USD cancel and generous change rules at 100 USD only will come into play in case of disputes with OTAs. (as per the previous RGN fare?)
Fare rules & restrictions
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JAL (JL) XNN0N4CE RGN to LAXGeneral notesBUSINESS EXCURSION FARES X Between AREA 3 and AREA 1 FOR ROUND TRIP FARES TICKETING CODE - XNN0NOCECategory 4: Flight restrictionsIF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN MYANMAR AND THAILAND THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY JL FLIGHT OPERATED BY PG ANY PG FLIGHT OPERATED BY PG ANY UB FLIGHT OPERATED BY UB. AND IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN BKK AND JAPAN THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY JL FLIGHT OPERATED BY JL. AND IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN JAPAN AND AREA 1 THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY JL FLIGHT OPERATED BY JL ANY JL FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA. AND IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN AREA 1 THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY JL FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA ANY JL FLIGHT OPERATED BY AS ANY JL FLIGHT OPERATED BY B6 ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA. IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN MYANMAR AND MALAYSIA THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY JL FLIGHT OPERATED BY MH ANY MH FLIGHT OPERATED BY MH. AND IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN KUL AND JAPAN THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY JL FLIGHT OPERATED BY JL. AND IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN JAPAN AND AREA 1 THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY JL FLIGHT OPERATED BY JL ANY JL FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA. AND IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN AREA 1 THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY JL FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA ANY JL FLIGHT OPERATED BY AS ANY JL FLIGHT OPERATED BY B6 ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA.Category 5: Advanced reservation/ticketing restrictionsRESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR ALL SECTORS. WHEN RESERVATIONS ARE MADE AT LEAST 29 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 7 DAYS AFTER RESERVATIONS ARE MADE. NOTE - DIFFERENCE COULD EXIST BETWEEN FARE RULE AND TICKETING TIME LIMIT IN PNR. THE MOST RESTRICTIVE DATE PREVAILS. RESERVATIONS ARE CANCELLED AUTOMATICALLY ON THE DATE OF TICKETING TIME LIMIT NO MATTER THE STATUS IS. OR - RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR ALL SECTORS. WHEN RESERVATIONS ARE MADE AT LEAST 8 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 3 DAYS AFTER RESERVATIONS ARE MADE. NOTE - DIFFERENCE COULD EXIST BETWEEN FARE RULE AND TICKETING TIME LIMIT IN PNR. THE MOST RESTRICTIVE DATE PREVAILS. RESERVATIONS ARE CANCELLED AUTOMATICALLY ON THE DATE OF TICKETING TIME LIMIT NO MATTER THE STATUS IS. OR - RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR ALL SECTORS. TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 1 DAY AFTER RESERVATIONS ARE MADE. NOTE - DIFFERENCE COULD EXIST BETWEEN FARE RULE AND TICKETING TIME LIMIT IN PNR. THE MOST RESTRICTIVE DATE PREVAILS. RESERVATIONS ARE CANCELLED AUTOMATICALLY ON THE DATE OF TICKETING TIME LIMIT NO MATTER THE STATUS IS.Category 7: Maximum stay requirementsTRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN 12 MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.Category 8: Stopover restrictions3 STOPOVERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION AT USD 100.00 EACH 1 IN MALAYSIA/THAILAND 1 IN JAPAN 1 IN THE UNITED STATES/CANADA. CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY.Category 9: Transfer restrictions3 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION FREE 1 FREE IN BKK/KUL IN EACH DIRECTION 1 FREE IN JAPAN IN EACH DIRECTION 1 FREE IN CANADA/THE UNITED STATES IN EACH DIRECTION FARE BREAK AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT.Category 10: CombinabilityAPPLICABLE ADD-ON CONSTRUCTION IS ADDRESSED IN MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS - CATEGORY 23. END-ON-END END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED. VALIDATE ALL FARE COMPONENTS. SIDE TRIPS NOT PERMITTED. END-ON-END NOTE - WHEN MORE THAN ONE FARE COMPONENT ARE CHANGED THE HIGHEST PENALTY OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS WITHIN THE JOURNEY APPLIES. PROVIDED - COMBINATIONS ARE FOR CARRIER JL/NU OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS -TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS. A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS PERMITTED. ROUND TRIPS CIRCLE TRIPS. OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS NOTE - IF COMBINING FARES HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS EACH FARE COMPONENT CONDITIONS WILL APPLY EXCEPT RESERVATION / TICKETING RULE / MINIMUM STAY / MAXIMUM STAY / CANCELLATIONS RULE. WHEN MORE THAN ONE FARE COMPONENT ARE CHANGED THE HIGHEST PENALTY OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS WITHIN THE JOURNEY APPLIES. --------------------------------------------- PROVIDED - COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER JL BETWEEN MYANMAR/AREA 1 IN RULE 6551 IN TARIFF IPRP - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA PACIFIC.Category 14: Travel restrictionsVALID FOR TRAVEL COMMENCING ON/AFTER 12DEC 18.Category 15: Sales restrictionsTICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/AFTER 12DEC 18.Category 15: Sales restrictionsTICKETS MUST BE ISSUED BY ELECTRONIC TICKETING. TICKETS MAY NOT BE SOLD IN BRAZIL. TICKETS MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN AREA 1/AREA 2/AREA 3.Category 16: PenaltiesCANCELLATIONS BEFORE DEPARTURE CHARGE USD 150.00 FOR CANCEL/REFUND. NOTE - IN CASE OF NO SHOW - CANCELLATION CHARGE USD 300.00 APPLIES. CHILD DISCOUNT APPLIES FREE FOR INFANT NOT OCCUPYING SEAT AFTER DEPARTURE TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE. CHANGES ANY TIME CHARGE USD 100.00 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION. NOTE - A.CHANGE FEE APPLIES FOR EACH RESERVATION CHANGE. PROVIDED THAT REBOOKING/REROUTING MUST BE MADE NOT LATER THAN THE DEPARTURE TIME OF ORIGINAL RESERVED FLIGHT. IN CASE OF NO SHOW - CHANGE FEE USD 250.00 APPLIES. -------- CHILD DISCOUNT APPLIES FREE FOR INFANT NOT OCCUPYING SEAT -------- B.RESERVATION AND TICKET ADJUSTMENTS MUST BE MADE AT THE SAME TIME. WAITLIST CONDITION OF NEW FARE APPLIES. C.WHEN NEW ITINERARY RESULTS IN A HIGHER FARE THE DIFFERENCE WILL BE COLLECTED. WHEN NEW ITINERARY RESULTS IN A LOWER FARE THE DIFFERENCE WILL BE REFUNDED. D.CHANGE TO APPLICABLE JL FARE IS PERMITTED. CHANGE TO LOWER RBD IS NOT PERMITTED. FARE ADJUSTMENT AND APPLICABLE CHANGE FEE APPLY IF ANY. E.WHEN ONLY ONE FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED - THE PENALTY FEE OF THE CHANGED FARE COMPONENT APPLIES. WHEN MORE THAN ONE FARE COMPONENT IS BEING CHANGED - THE HIGHEST PENALTY FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS WITHIN THE JOURNEY APPLIES. ---------------Category 17: HIP exceptionsTHE HIGHER INTERMEDIATE POINT RULE DOES NOT APPLY FOR STOPOVERS. NOTE - NO HIP/CTM CHECKS APPLIED.Category 18: EndorsementsTHE ORIGINAL AND THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED - NONEND/FEE ON RFND - AND - FEE ON CHG - IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX.Category 19: DiscountsACCOMPANIED CHILD 2-11 - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF THE FARE. TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND PERCENT OF DISCOUNT OR - INFANT UNDER 2 WITHOUT A SEAT - CHARGE 10 PERCENT OF THE FARE. TICKET DESIGNATOR - IN AND PERCENT OF DISCOUNT OR - INFANT UNDER 2 WITH A SEAT - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF THE FARE. TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND PERCENT OF DISCOUNT OR - UNACCOMPANIED CHILD UNDER 12 - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF THE FARE. TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND PERCENT OF DISCOUNT.Category 20: Tour DiscountsNOTE - DISCOUNTS APPLY. INFORMATION IS NOT AVAILABLE AT THIS TIME...CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS.Category 21: Agent DiscountsNOTE - DISCOUNTS APPLY. INFORMATION IS NOT AVAILABLE AT THIS TIME. CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS.Category 22: Other DiscountsNOTE - DISCOUNTS APPLY. INFORMATION IS NOT AVAILABLE AT THIS TIME. CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS.Category 31: Voluntary changesTHE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS - SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS. OR - SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS. OR - SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS. OR - SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS. OR - SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS. OR - SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS. OR - SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS. IN THE EVENT OF CHANGES TO TICKETED FLIGHTS BEFORE DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT - APPLIES WITHIN TKT VALIDITY CHARGE USD 100.00 FOR REISSUE OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS -/CATEGORY 19 DISCOUNTS APPLY- NO FEE FOR INFANTS W/O SEAT AND REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FLIGHT COUPON 2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 3. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 4. JL X- FARE FAMILY IS USED 5. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 6. WHEN SAME FARE USED - ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET EXCEPT ADV RES-TKTG - OTHERWISE ALL PROVISIONS MUST BE MET 7. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FLIGHT COUPON 2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 3. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 4. JL D- FARE FAMILY IS USED 5. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 6. WHEN SAME FARE USED - ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET EXCEPT ADV RES-TKTG - OTHERWISE ALL PROVISIONS MUST BE MET 7. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FLIGHT COUPON 2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 3. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 4. JL C- FARE FAMILY IS USED 5. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 6. WHEN SAME FARE USED - ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET EXCEPT ADV RES-TKTG - OTHERWISE ALL PROVISIONS MUST BE MET 7. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FLIGHT COUPON 2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 3. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 4. JL J- FARE FAMILY AND ANY FARE TYPE EXCEPT BU IS USED 5. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 6. WHEN SAME FARE USED - ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET EXCEPT ADV RES-TKTG - OTHERWISE ALL PROVISIONS MUST BE MET 7. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FLIGHT COUPON 2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 3. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 4. JL A- FARE FAMILY IS USED 5. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 6. WHEN SAME FARE USED - ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET EXCEPT ADV RES-TKTG - OTHERWISE ALL PROVISIONS MUST BE MET 7. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FLIGHT COUPON 2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 3. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 4. JL F- FARE FAMILY AND FARE TYPE FU IS USED 5. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 6. NEW TKT HAS EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN PREVIOUS TKT 7. WHEN SAME FARE USED - ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET EXCEPT ADV RES-TKTG - OTHERWISE ALL PROVISIONS MUST BE MET 8. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FLIGHT COUPON 2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 3. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 4. JL J- FARE FAMILY AND FARE TYPE BU IS USED 5. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 6. NEW TKT HAS EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN PREVIOUS TKT 7. WHEN SAME FARE USED - ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET EXCEPT ADV RES-TKTG - OTHERWISE ALL PROVISIONS MUST BE MET 8. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT TODAY PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 3. JL X- FARE FAMILY IS USED 4. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT TODAY PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 3. JL D- FARE FAMILY IS USED 4. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT TODAY PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 3. JL C- FARE FAMILY IS USED 4. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT TODAY PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 3. JL J- FARE FAMILY AND ANY FARE TYPE EXCEPT BU IS USED 4. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT TODAY PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 3. JL A- FARE FAMILY IS USED 4. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT TODAY PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 3. JL F- FARE FAMILY AND FARE TYPE FU IS USED 4. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 5. NEW TKT HAS EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN PREVIOUS TKT 6. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT TODAY PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 3. JL J- FARE FAMILY AND FARE TYPE BU IS USED 4. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 5. NEW TKT HAS EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN PREVIOUS TKT 6. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT REFUND VIA ORIGINAL FORM OF PAYMENT ENDORSEMENT BOX- NEW ENDORSEMENTS. OR - BEFORE DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT - APPLIES WITHIN TKT VALIDITY CHARGE USD 250.00 FOR REISSUE OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS -/CATEGORY 19 DISCOUNTS APPLY- NO FEE FOR INFANTS W/O SEAT AND REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT TODAY PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. CHANGE IS AFTER ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 3. JL X- FARE FAMILY IS USED 4. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT TODAY PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. CHANGE IS AFTER ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 3. JL D- FARE FAMILY IS USED 4. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT TODAY PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. CHANGE IS AFTER ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 3. JL C- FARE FAMILY IS USED 4. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT TODAY PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. CHANGE IS AFTER ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 3. JL J- FARE FAMILY AND ANY FARE TYPE EXCEPT BU IS USED 4. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT TODAY PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. CHANGE IS AFTER ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 3. JL A- FARE FAMILY IS USED 4. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT TODAY PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. CHANGE IS AFTER ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 3. JL F- FARE FAMILY AND FARE TYPE FU IS USED 4. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 5. NEW TKT HAS EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN PREVIOUS TKT 6. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT TODAY PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. CHANGE IS AFTER ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 3. JL J- FARE FAMILY AND FARE TYPE BU IS USED 4. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 5. NEW TKT HAS EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN PREVIOUS TKT 6. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT REFUND VIA ORIGINAL FORM OF PAYMENT ENDORSEMENT BOX- NEW ENDORSEMENTS. OR - AFTER DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT - APPLIES WITHIN TKT VALIDITY CHARGE USD 100.00 FOR REISSUE OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS -/CATEGORY 19 DISCOUNTS APPLY- NO FEE FOR INFANTS W/O SEAT AND REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 3. JL X- FARE FAMILY IS USED 4. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 5. WHEN SAME FARE USED - ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET EXCEPT ADV RES-TKTG - OTHERWISE ALL PROVISIONS MUST BE MET 6. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 3. JL D- FARE FAMILY IS USED 4. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 5. WHEN SAME FARE USED - ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET EXCEPT ADV RES-TKTG - OTHERWISE ALL PROVISIONS MUST BE MET 6. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 3. JL C- FARE FAMILY IS USED 4. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 5. WHEN SAME FARE USED - ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET EXCEPT ADV RES-TKTG - OTHERWISE ALL PROVISIONS MUST BE MET 6. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 3. JL J- FARE FAMILY AND ANY FARE TYPE EXCEPT BU IS USED 4. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 5. WHEN SAME FARE USED - ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET EXCEPT ADV RES-TKTG - OTHERWISE ALL PROVISIONS MUST BE MET 6. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 3. JL A- FARE FAMILY IS USED 4. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 5. WHEN SAME FARE USED - ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET EXCEPT ADV RES-TKTG - OTHERWISE ALL PROVISIONS MUST BE MET 6. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 3. JL F- FARE FAMILY AND FARE TYPE FU IS USED 4. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 5. NEW TKT HAS EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN PREVIOUS TKT 6. WHEN SAME FARE USED - ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET EXCEPT ADV RES-TKTG - OTHERWISE ALL PROVISIONS MUST BE MET 7. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 3. JL J- FARE FAMILY AND FARE TYPE BU IS USED 4. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 5. NEW TKT HAS EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN PREVIOUS TKT 6. WHEN SAME FARE USED - ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET EXCEPT ADV RES-TKTG - OTHERWISE ALL PROVISIONS MUST BE MET 7. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT REFUND VIA ORIGINAL FORM OF PAYMENT ENDORSEMENT BOX- NEW ENDORSEMENTS. OR - AFTER DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT - APPLIES WITHIN TKT VALIDITY CHARGE USD 250.00 FOR REISSUE OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS -/CATEGORY 19 DISCOUNTS APPLY- NO FEE FOR INFANTS W/O SEAT AND REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. CHANGE IS AFTER ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 3. JL X- FARE FAMILY IS USED 4. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 5. WHEN SAME FARE USED - ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET EXCEPT ADV RES-TKTG - OTHERWISE ALL PROVISIONS MUST BE MET 6. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. CHANGE IS AFTER ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 3. JL D- FARE FAMILY IS USED 4. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 5. WHEN SAME FARE USED - ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET EXCEPT ADV RES-TKTG - OTHERWISE ALL PROVISIONS MUST BE MET 6. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. CHANGE IS AFTER ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 3. JL C- FARE FAMILY IS USED 4. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 5. WHEN SAME FARE USED - ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET EXCEPT ADV RES-TKTG - OTHERWISE ALL PROVISIONS MUST BE MET 6. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. CHANGE IS AFTER ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 3. JL J- FARE FAMILY AND ANY FARE TYPE EXCEPT BU IS USED 4. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 5. WHEN SAME FARE USED - ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET EXCEPT ADV RES-TKTG - OTHERWISE ALL PROVISIONS MUST BE MET 6. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. CHANGE IS AFTER ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 3. JL A- FARE FAMILY IS USED 4. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 5. WHEN SAME FARE USED - ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET EXCEPT ADV RES-TKTG - OTHERWISE ALL PROVISIONS MUST BE MET 6. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. CHANGE IS AFTER ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 3. JL F- FARE FAMILY AND FARE TYPE FU IS USED 4. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 5. NEW TKT HAS EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN PREVIOUS TKT 6. WHEN SAME FARE USED - ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET EXCEPT ADV RES-TKTG - OTHERWISE ALL PROVISIONS MUST BE MET 7. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. CHANGE IS AFTER ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 3. JL J- FARE FAMILY AND FARE TYPE BU IS USED 4. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 5. NEW TKT HAS EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN PREVIOUS TKT 6. WHEN SAME FARE USED - ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET EXCEPT ADV RES-TKTG - OTHERWISE ALL PROVISIONS MUST BE MET 7. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT REFUND VIA ORIGINAL FORM OF PAYMENT ENDORSEMENT BOX- NEW ENDORSEMENTS.Category 33: Voluntary cancellationsREFER TO PENALTIES CATEGORY 16Category 50: ApplicationSTANDARD X APPLICATION CLASS OF SERVICE THESE FARES APPLY FOR BUSINESS CLASS SERVICE. TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION THIS RULE GOVERNS ROUND-TRIP FARES. FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE CAN BE USED TO CREATE ROUND-TRIP/CIRCLE-TRIP/OPEN-JAW JOURNEYS. CAPACITY LIMITATIONS THE CARRIER SHALL LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PASSENGERS CARRIED ON ANY ONE FLIGHT AT FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE AND SUCH FARES WILL NOT NECESSARILY BE AVAILABLE ON ALL FLIGHTS. THE NUMBER OF SEATS WHICH THE CARRIER SHALL MAKE AVAILABLE ON A GIVEN FLIGHT WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE CARRIERS BEST JUDGMENT
[PREM FARE GONE] JAL: RGN-SAN/LAX/SFO/DFW/ORD/etc from $2k USD Biz (Going Fast)
Jul 18, 2019, 4:20 pm
#181
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Unio Europaea
Programs: BA GGL, AS, Hertz Cirque Présidentielle
Posts: 1,445
I positioned DMK-RGN on Thai Lion Air this morning. At check-in in the rep asked me for my tourist visa, which I showed and she checked me in. In retrospect I wish I had just shown her the onward flight itinerary and seen if she let me check-in. That's the one part of this that remains murky. I suspect YMMV with airline representatives letting you check-in without a visa.
Jul 18, 2019, 5:06 pm
#183
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Tokyo
Programs: Marriott Plat, HH G,Hyatt E,*A Gold, OW Emerald.
Posts: 3,023
Unfortunately, the mini-respite we had this week is short lived.
The base fare has been doubled ( $752 each way to $ 1860 each way).
Seems JAL finally re-filed the fare again yester night.
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/AFTER 19JUL 19.
The base fare has been doubled ( $752 each way to $ 1860 each way).
Seems JAL finally re-filed the fare again yester night.
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/AFTER 19JUL 19.
Jul 18, 2019, 7:10 pm
#184
Join Date: Jun 2018
Programs: skymiles
Posts: 41
Priceline and expedia still quoting me $1877 to lax but ita quoting fares higher so act fast, from SGN to RGN you aint gonna beat $152 RT on Vietnam Air, anybody via BKK be advised airport change, free shuttle from 5AM to ~1AM BKK-DMK takes an hour and must show itinerary, convenient luxury $60+ Amari Don Meung at DMK via skybridge or $20 Don Meung Hotel is basic, walk across skybridge to Amari Don Meung then taxi about 40 Baht ($1.50) from in front of Amari to Don Meung hotel, have printout name and directions in Thai for taxi, insist on meter or taxi will want 200 Baht, taxi from airport stand without crossing the bridge over freeway adds 50 Baht airport fee and needs 3 mile detour south to turn around
UPDATE - now Expedia shows $8K JFK/$7K LAX
UPDATE - now Expedia shows $8K JFK/$7K LAX
Last edited by wholenoni; Jul 18, 2019 at 11:20 pm Reason: update
Jul 19, 2019, 1:04 pm
#186
Join Date: Jan 2000
Programs: Free agent
Posts: 1,296
As a point of reference that travel agent at Columbus sent me this email on the 18th
"I would like to kindly follow up!
Because I've been informed from Japan Airlines (JL) that the fare from RGN to USA will be increased from tomorrow (19thJul'19)"
I thought they were trying to pressure me to buy, guess not. My waiting ended up costing me $400 but I did get 5x points through the AmEx portal, so I guess that is something.
"I would like to kindly follow up!
Because I've been informed from Japan Airlines (JL) that the fare from RGN to USA will be increased from tomorrow (19thJul'19)"
I thought they were trying to pressure me to buy, guess not. My waiting ended up costing me $400 but I did get 5x points through the AmEx portal, so I guess that is something.
Jul 20, 2019, 7:34 pm
#188
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Tokyo
Programs: Marriott Plat, HH G,Hyatt E,*A Gold, OW Emerald.
Posts: 3,023
Some visa information for those considering buying this fare.
This morning I positioned to Yangon to start the outbound part of RGN-BKK-NRT-NYC-LAX-BOS-NRT-BKK-RGN.
The Myanmar eVisa website implies that a transit visa-on-arrival for onward international flights departing within 24 hours is possible, but it doesn't explicitly state as much.
I decided to test the idea.
As backup in case it didn't work, I applied for in advance and was approved for a regular tourist visa (which is good for entry any time within 90 days, so I will use it on the return leg). $50 application fee.
I positioned DMK-RGN on Thai Lion Air this morning. At check-in in the rep asked me for my tourist visa, which I showed and she checked me in. In retrospect I wish I had just shown her the onward flight itinerary and seen if she let me check-in. That's the one part of this that remains murky. I suspect YMMV with airline representatives letting you check-in without a visa.
On arrival in RGN this morning I first tried to go through at the Transit Door (which had two staff members present, although the door was closed). That would have been the best case scenario, because I could have just hung out in the airside lounge till my evening flight. No dice. They shooed me away towards immigration in care of an airline rep.
I showed the rep my printed onward itinerary with a flight leaving this evening (I didn't mention the tourist visa), which seemed to give her pause. She conferred with several other people including the visa-on-arrival desk and came back with the visa-on-arrival application form. Needed 1 passport photo, the printed confirmation and itinerary of my onward flight, the application form, and $20 cash application fee.
There are passport photo machines next to the visa-on-arrival desk that take USD 1s and 5s, but I had some extra passport photos with me so didn't test them. There are no ATMs or money exchange before immigration, and the desk only accepts USD, so make sure to have cash.
Filled out the form and they put a full-page sticker transit visa valid for today only in my passport (make sure you have the whole empty page).
Main Takeaway: It is possible to cut visa costs for this fare from $100 down to $40. (Or from $50 to $20 if you accidentally miss that last flight back to RGN).
I think transit visa-on-arrival should also be okay for next-day flights as long as they are within 24 hours of the arrival flight, but I can't say for sure.
Unfortunately now sitting in a coffee shop by the check-in counters for 6 hours until check-in opens for my evening flight. (They charge 1000MMK/1.5GB for wifi out here, although it's free in the airside lounge).
Forgive me for being a little ramble-y. I'm trying to pass the time. I spent 3 days here last time, so I don't think another 6 hours in the city will do anything for me.
Love you, bye
edit: for enhanced woke-ness
This morning I positioned to Yangon to start the outbound part of RGN-BKK-NRT-NYC-LAX-BOS-NRT-BKK-RGN.
The Myanmar eVisa website implies that a transit visa-on-arrival for onward international flights departing within 24 hours is possible, but it doesn't explicitly state as much.
I decided to test the idea.
As backup in case it didn't work, I applied for in advance and was approved for a regular tourist visa (which is good for entry any time within 90 days, so I will use it on the return leg). $50 application fee.
I positioned DMK-RGN on Thai Lion Air this morning. At check-in in the rep asked me for my tourist visa, which I showed and she checked me in. In retrospect I wish I had just shown her the onward flight itinerary and seen if she let me check-in. That's the one part of this that remains murky. I suspect YMMV with airline representatives letting you check-in without a visa.
On arrival in RGN this morning I first tried to go through at the Transit Door (which had two staff members present, although the door was closed). That would have been the best case scenario, because I could have just hung out in the airside lounge till my evening flight. No dice. They shooed me away towards immigration in care of an airline rep.
I showed the rep my printed onward itinerary with a flight leaving this evening (I didn't mention the tourist visa), which seemed to give her pause. She conferred with several other people including the visa-on-arrival desk and came back with the visa-on-arrival application form. Needed 1 passport photo, the printed confirmation and itinerary of my onward flight, the application form, and $20 cash application fee.
There are passport photo machines next to the visa-on-arrival desk that take USD 1s and 5s, but I had some extra passport photos with me so didn't test them. There are no ATMs or money exchange before immigration, and the desk only accepts USD, so make sure to have cash.
Filled out the form and they put a full-page sticker transit visa valid for today only in my passport (make sure you have the whole empty page).
Main Takeaway: It is possible to cut visa costs for this fare from $100 down to $40. (Or from $50 to $20 if you accidentally miss that last flight back to RGN).
I think transit visa-on-arrival should also be okay for next-day flights as long as they are within 24 hours of the arrival flight, but I can't say for sure.
Unfortunately now sitting in a coffee shop by the check-in counters for 6 hours until check-in opens for my evening flight. (They charge 1000MMK/1.5GB for wifi out here, although it's free in the airside lounge).
Forgive me for being a little ramble-y. I'm trying to pass the time. I spent 3 days here last time, so I don't think another 6 hours in the city will do anything for me.
Love you, bye
edit: for enhanced woke-ness
5 straight days of flying to do RGN-BKK-HND-JFK-LAX-BOS-NRT-BKK-hop off (last flight to RGN is 8 hours later, so that I can skip this last leg)
2 questions:
Was there a reason given for being refused use of the transit door/gate? Just curious, though I suspect that there are no transit ticketing facilities, so likely that they want all pax to get boarding passes/verify passes on the land side. just a thought.
I also have 6 hours (12pm-6pm) of waiting in RGN, and wondering how to kill time. Wifi - thought of buying the cheapest SIM card and surviving with it.
Last time I was in RGN was March this year (on my first RGN ticket), but I had baked in 2 days of waiting so I could tour Yangon and the pagoda (as per my TR), so this time I am not even interested in going into the city.
Jul 20, 2019, 10:41 pm
#189
Join Date: Mar 2019
Programs: American Airlines
Posts: 100
Currently enjoying the sun in Kuala Lumpur before starting my journey (second RGN ticket!!) tomorrow from RGN.
5 straight days of flying to do RGN-BKK-HND-JFK-LAX-BOS-NRT-BKK-hop off (last flight to RGN is 8 hours later, so that I can skip this last leg)
2 questions:
Was there a reason given for being refused use of the transit door/gate? Just curious, though I suspect that there are no transit ticketing facilities, so likely that they want all pax to get boarding passes/verify passes on the land side. just a thought.
I also have 6 hours (12pm-6pm) of waiting in RGN, and wondering how to kill time. Wifi - thought of buying the cheapest SIM card and surviving with it.
Last time I was in RGN was March this year (on my first RGN ticket), but I had baked in 2 days of waiting so I could tour Yangon and the pagoda (as per my TR), so this time I am not even interested in going into the city.
5 straight days of flying to do RGN-BKK-HND-JFK-LAX-BOS-NRT-BKK-hop off (last flight to RGN is 8 hours later, so that I can skip this last leg)
2 questions:
Was there a reason given for being refused use of the transit door/gate? Just curious, though I suspect that there are no transit ticketing facilities, so likely that they want all pax to get boarding passes/verify passes on the land side. just a thought.
I also have 6 hours (12pm-6pm) of waiting in RGN, and wondering how to kill time. Wifi - thought of buying the cheapest SIM card and surviving with it.
Last time I was in RGN was March this year (on my first RGN ticket), but I had baked in 2 days of waiting so I could tour Yangon and the pagoda (as per my TR), so this time I am not even interested in going into the city.
Jul 22, 2019, 2:26 pm
#190
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Unio Europaea
Programs: BA GGL, AS, Hertz Cirque Présidentielle
Posts: 1,445
I agree that in theory checking in shouldn't be a problem, but I vaguely remembering hearing others' experiences on here of some airline representatives not being familiar with various countries' transit visa policies and causing trouble at check-in. May I ask where you got the transit visa form? I couldn't find it online anywhere before I went.
Jul 24, 2019, 9:16 am
#191
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: USA
Posts: 53
Finished one leg of this journey back to the USA. On the return, has anyone just 'dropped' the last BKK-RGN segment on this route? I don't plan on going back to Yangon this time as I've already visited but want to stay in Bangkok. I imagine it wouldn't be hard just having them short check your bags to BKK as the layover is 9+ hours (can say you are grabbing a hotel room overnight or maybe they force you to grab your bags on the long layover) but wasn't sure if anyone has done this. TIA.
Jul 24, 2019, 9:30 am
#192
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: SIN, PIE
Programs: AA-EXP, SQ-PPS, Marriott PP
Posts: 210
Finished one leg of this journey back to the USA. On the return, has anyone just 'dropped' the last BKK-RGN segment on this route? I don't plan on going back to Yangon this time as I've already visited but want to stay in Bangkok. I imagine it wouldn't be hard just having them short check your bags to BKK as the layover is 9+ hours (can say you are grabbing a hotel room overnight or maybe they force you to grab your bags on the long layover) but wasn't sure if anyone has done this. TIA.
Aug 6, 2019, 10:47 am
#193
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Tokyo
Programs: Marriott Plat, HH G,Hyatt E,*A Gold, OW Emerald.
Posts: 3,023
Finished one leg of this journey back to the USA. On the return, has anyone just 'dropped' the last BKK-RGN segment on this route? I don't plan on going back to Yangon this time as I've already visited but want to stay in Bangkok. I imagine it wouldn't be hard just having them short check your bags to BKK as the layover is 9+ hours (can say you are grabbing a hotel room overnight or maybe they force you to grab your bags on the long layover) but wasn't sure if anyone has done this. TIA.
dont check in any bags!!!
in fact, pack carry on size roller board luggage + duffel bag/large backpack and you'll be fine with all the bags in the business cabin.
JAL USA contract check-in agents definitely won't short check your luggage only to BKK! (at least not in LAX! Seems the other outposts are more "empathetic")
Aug 7, 2019, 1:11 am
#194
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 28
Just finished one of these tickets flying RGN-KUL-TYO(stop)-NYC(stop)-LAX-SEA(stop)-TYO-BKK-RGN. A few observations for everyone here:
i. The RGN transfer process is a lot more efficient than expected. Because the airport is small, I went from my first positioning flight to the carousel within 20 minutes, and there was barely a line at immigration. I had 90-minute connections at RGN and I was able to make them after picking up my checked bags in both instances. Note that (a) I did not need a Visa to go through immigration and (b) I was in the front of the plane for both flights arriving in RGN.
ii. I was able to OLCI for my RGN-KUL-TYO segment. The first segment was marketed and operated by MH (RGN-KUL) and I could print out my boarding pass. However, I was unable to OLCI for the my last flight ex-RGN, probably because I was sitting on a LCC.
iii. RGN has a PP-accessible lounge with good wifi. Food selection is ok, but it's sufficient for killing time. I was able to use the lounge for at least 30 minutes during both connections (start and end) in RGN.
iv. Check-in agents at SEA were willing to short-check my bags to BKK. I had a 9-hour layover in BKK and requested to short-check them to check-in to a hotel.
v. The Bangkok Airways BKK-RGN segment is an all-economy plane with a very light load. If you want to exit the plane quickly, you should request for rows 2-5 as early as possible. Row 1 is reserved for PG elites. The gate agents will usually do some weight balancing at the day of the flight, so don't get yourself bumped to the back of the plane
This was one of my most enjoyable mileage runs in a while. The JAL SKY SUITE was amazing for both long-hauls, but they use the legacy 787 with recliner seats for the NRT-BKK segment. Would miss the heart-stopping connections at RGN!
i. The RGN transfer process is a lot more efficient than expected. Because the airport is small, I went from my first positioning flight to the carousel within 20 minutes, and there was barely a line at immigration. I had 90-minute connections at RGN and I was able to make them after picking up my checked bags in both instances. Note that (a) I did not need a Visa to go through immigration and (b) I was in the front of the plane for both flights arriving in RGN.
ii. I was able to OLCI for my RGN-KUL-TYO segment. The first segment was marketed and operated by MH (RGN-KUL) and I could print out my boarding pass. However, I was unable to OLCI for the my last flight ex-RGN, probably because I was sitting on a LCC.
iii. RGN has a PP-accessible lounge with good wifi. Food selection is ok, but it's sufficient for killing time. I was able to use the lounge for at least 30 minutes during both connections (start and end) in RGN.
iv. Check-in agents at SEA were willing to short-check my bags to BKK. I had a 9-hour layover in BKK and requested to short-check them to check-in to a hotel.
v. The Bangkok Airways BKK-RGN segment is an all-economy plane with a very light load. If you want to exit the plane quickly, you should request for rows 2-5 as early as possible. Row 1 is reserved for PG elites. The gate agents will usually do some weight balancing at the day of the flight, so don't get yourself bumped to the back of the plane
This was one of my most enjoyable mileage runs in a while. The JAL SKY SUITE was amazing for both long-hauls, but they use the legacy 787 with recliner seats for the NRT-BKK segment. Would miss the heart-stopping connections at RGN!
Aug 7, 2019, 3:24 am
#195
Join Date: May 2017
Location: SIN
Programs: AS MVPG75k, AA Plat
Posts: 741