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Old Dec 31, 2018, 2:35 am
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SITI ticketing restrictions lifted as on 7/15/2019.
Can now once again ticket on your favorite OTA!
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Sorry for the long length post.
The full fare rules for XNN0N4CE just for future reference. 150 USD cancel and generous change rules at 100 USD only will come into play in case of disputes with OTAs. (as per the previous RGN fare?)
Fare rules & restrictions
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JAL (JL) XNN0N4CE RGN to LAXGeneral notesBUSINESS EXCURSION FARES X Between AREA 3 and AREA 1 FOR ROUND TRIP FARES TICKETING CODE - XNN0NOCECategory 4: Flight restrictionsIF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN MYANMAR AND THAILAND THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY JL FLIGHT OPERATED BY PG ANY PG FLIGHT OPERATED BY PG ANY UB FLIGHT OPERATED BY UB. AND IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN BKK AND JAPAN THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY JL FLIGHT OPERATED BY JL. AND IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN JAPAN AND AREA 1 THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY JL FLIGHT OPERATED BY JL ANY JL FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA. AND IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN AREA 1 THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY JL FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA ANY JL FLIGHT OPERATED BY AS ANY JL FLIGHT OPERATED BY B6 ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA. IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN MYANMAR AND MALAYSIA THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY JL FLIGHT OPERATED BY MH ANY MH FLIGHT OPERATED BY MH. AND IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN KUL AND JAPAN THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY JL FLIGHT OPERATED BY JL. AND IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN JAPAN AND AREA 1 THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY JL FLIGHT OPERATED BY JL ANY JL FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA. AND IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN AREA 1 THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY JL FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA ANY JL FLIGHT OPERATED BY AS ANY JL FLIGHT OPERATED BY B6 ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA.Category 5: Advanced reservation/ticketing restrictionsRESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR ALL SECTORS. WHEN RESERVATIONS ARE MADE AT LEAST 29 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 7 DAYS AFTER RESERVATIONS ARE MADE. NOTE - DIFFERENCE COULD EXIST BETWEEN FARE RULE AND TICKETING TIME LIMIT IN PNR. THE MOST RESTRICTIVE DATE PREVAILS. RESERVATIONS ARE CANCELLED AUTOMATICALLY ON THE DATE OF TICKETING TIME LIMIT NO MATTER THE STATUS IS. OR - RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR ALL SECTORS. WHEN RESERVATIONS ARE MADE AT LEAST 8 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 3 DAYS AFTER RESERVATIONS ARE MADE. NOTE - DIFFERENCE COULD EXIST BETWEEN FARE RULE AND TICKETING TIME LIMIT IN PNR. THE MOST RESTRICTIVE DATE PREVAILS. RESERVATIONS ARE CANCELLED AUTOMATICALLY ON THE DATE OF TICKETING TIME LIMIT NO MATTER THE STATUS IS. OR - RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR ALL SECTORS. TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 1 DAY AFTER RESERVATIONS ARE MADE. NOTE - DIFFERENCE COULD EXIST BETWEEN FARE RULE AND TICKETING TIME LIMIT IN PNR. THE MOST RESTRICTIVE DATE PREVAILS. RESERVATIONS ARE CANCELLED AUTOMATICALLY ON THE DATE OF TICKETING TIME LIMIT NO MATTER THE STATUS IS.Category 7: Maximum stay requirementsTRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN 12 MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.Category 8: Stopover restrictions3 STOPOVERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION AT USD 100.00 EACH 1 IN MALAYSIA/THAILAND 1 IN JAPAN 1 IN THE UNITED STATES/CANADA. CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY.Category 9: Transfer restrictions3 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION FREE 1 FREE IN BKK/KUL IN EACH DIRECTION 1 FREE IN JAPAN IN EACH DIRECTION 1 FREE IN CANADA/THE UNITED STATES IN EACH DIRECTION FARE BREAK AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT.Category 10: CombinabilityAPPLICABLE ADD-ON CONSTRUCTION IS ADDRESSED IN MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS - CATEGORY 23. END-ON-END END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED. VALIDATE ALL FARE COMPONENTS. SIDE TRIPS NOT PERMITTED. END-ON-END NOTE - WHEN MORE THAN ONE FARE COMPONENT ARE CHANGED THE HIGHEST PENALTY OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS WITHIN THE JOURNEY APPLIES. PROVIDED - COMBINATIONS ARE FOR CARRIER JL/NU OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS -TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS. A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS PERMITTED. ROUND TRIPS CIRCLE TRIPS. OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS NOTE - IF COMBINING FARES HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS EACH FARE COMPONENT CONDITIONS WILL APPLY EXCEPT RESERVATION / TICKETING RULE / MINIMUM STAY / MAXIMUM STAY / CANCELLATIONS RULE. WHEN MORE THAN ONE FARE COMPONENT ARE CHANGED THE HIGHEST PENALTY OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS WITHIN THE JOURNEY APPLIES. --------------------------------------------- PROVIDED - COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER JL BETWEEN MYANMAR/AREA 1 IN RULE 6551 IN TARIFF IPRP - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA PACIFIC.Category 14: Travel restrictionsVALID FOR TRAVEL COMMENCING ON/AFTER 12DEC 18.Category 15: Sales restrictionsTICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/AFTER 12DEC 18.Category 15: Sales restrictionsTICKETS MUST BE ISSUED BY ELECTRONIC TICKETING. TICKETS MAY NOT BE SOLD IN BRAZIL. TICKETS MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN AREA 1/AREA 2/AREA 3.Category 16: PenaltiesCANCELLATIONS
 BEFORE DEPARTURE CHARGE USD 150.00 FOR CANCEL/REFUND.
 NOTE - IN CASE OF NO SHOW - CANCELLATION CHARGE USD 300.00 APPLIES.
 CHILD DISCOUNT APPLIES FREE FOR INFANT NOT OCCUPYING SEAT
 AFTER DEPARTURE TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE.
 CHANGES
 ANY TIME CHARGE USD 100.00 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION. NOTE -
 A.CHANGE FEE APPLIES FOR EACH RESERVATION CHANGE. PROVIDED THAT REBOOKING/REROUTING MUST BE MADE NOT LATER THAN THE DEPARTURE TIME OF ORIGINAL RESERVED FLIGHT.
 IN CASE OF NO SHOW - CHANGE FEE USD 250.00 APPLIES.
 -------- CHILD DISCOUNT APPLIES FREE FOR INFANT NOT OCCUPYING SEAT --------
 B.RESERVATION AND TICKET ADJUSTMENTS MUST BE MADE AT THE SAME TIME.
 WAITLIST CONDITION OF NEW FARE APPLIES.
 C.WHEN NEW ITINERARY RESULTS IN A HIGHER FARE THE DIFFERENCE WILL BE COLLECTED. WHEN NEW ITINERARY RESULTS IN A LOWER FARE THE DIFFERENCE WILL BE REFUNDED.
 D.CHANGE TO APPLICABLE JL FARE IS PERMITTED. CHANGE TO LOWER RBD IS NOT PERMITTED. FARE ADJUSTMENT AND APPLICABLE CHANGE FEE APPLY IF ANY.
 E.WHEN ONLY ONE FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED - THE PENALTY FEE OF THE CHANGED FARE COMPONENT APPLIES. WHEN MORE THAN ONE FARE COMPONENT IS BEING CHANGED - THE HIGHEST PENALTY FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS WITHIN THE JOURNEY APPLIES. ---------------Category 17: HIP exceptionsTHE HIGHER INTERMEDIATE POINT RULE DOES NOT APPLY FOR STOPOVERS. NOTE - NO HIP/CTM CHECKS APPLIED.Category 18: EndorsementsTHE ORIGINAL AND THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED - NONEND/FEE ON RFND - AND - FEE ON CHG - IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX.Category 19: DiscountsACCOMPANIED CHILD 2-11 - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF THE FARE. TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND PERCENT OF DISCOUNT OR - INFANT UNDER 2 WITHOUT A SEAT - CHARGE 10 PERCENT OF THE FARE. TICKET DESIGNATOR - IN AND PERCENT OF DISCOUNT OR - INFANT UNDER 2 WITH A SEAT - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF THE FARE. TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND PERCENT OF DISCOUNT OR - UNACCOMPANIED CHILD UNDER 12 - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF THE FARE. TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND PERCENT OF DISCOUNT.Category 20: Tour DiscountsNOTE - DISCOUNTS APPLY. INFORMATION IS NOT AVAILABLE AT THIS TIME...CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS.Category 21: Agent DiscountsNOTE - DISCOUNTS APPLY. INFORMATION IS NOT AVAILABLE AT THIS TIME. CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS.Category 22: Other DiscountsNOTE - DISCOUNTS APPLY. INFORMATION IS NOT AVAILABLE AT THIS TIME. CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS.Category 31: Voluntary changesTHE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS - SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS. OR - SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS. OR - SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS. OR - SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS. OR - SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS. OR - SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS. OR - SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS.
 IN THE EVENT OF CHANGES TO TICKETED FLIGHTS BEFORE DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT - APPLIES WITHIN TKT VALIDITY
 CHARGE USD 100.00 FOR REISSUE OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS -/CATEGORY 19 DISCOUNTS APPLY- NO FEE FOR INFANTS W/O SEAT
 AND
 REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
 1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FLIGHT COUPON
 2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC
 3. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT
 4. JL X- FARE FAMILY IS USED
 5. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF
 6. WHEN SAME FARE USED - ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET EXCEPT ADV RES-TKTG - OTHERWISE ALL PROVISIONS MUST BE MET
 7. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
 OR
 - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
 1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FLIGHT COUPON
 2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC
 3. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT
 4. JL D- FARE FAMILY IS USED 5. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF
 6. WHEN SAME FARE USED - ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET EXCEPT ADV RES-TKTG - OTHERWISE ALL PROVISIONS MUST BE MET
 7. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
 OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FLIGHT COUPON 2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 3. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 4. JL C- FARE FAMILY IS USED 5. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 6. WHEN SAME FARE USED - ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET EXCEPT ADV RES-TKTG - OTHERWISE ALL PROVISIONS MUST BE MET 7. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FLIGHT COUPON 2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 3. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 4. JL J- FARE FAMILY AND ANY FARE TYPE EXCEPT BU IS USED 5. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 6. WHEN SAME FARE USED - ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET EXCEPT ADV RES-TKTG - OTHERWISE ALL PROVISIONS MUST BE MET 7. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FLIGHT COUPON 2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 3. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 4. JL A- FARE FAMILY IS USED 5. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 6. WHEN SAME FARE USED - ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET EXCEPT ADV RES-TKTG - OTHERWISE ALL PROVISIONS MUST BE MET 7. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FLIGHT COUPON 2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 3. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 4. JL F- FARE FAMILY AND FARE TYPE FU IS USED 5. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 6. NEW TKT HAS EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN PREVIOUS TKT 7. WHEN SAME FARE USED - ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET EXCEPT ADV RES-TKTG - OTHERWISE ALL PROVISIONS MUST BE MET 8. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FLIGHT COUPON 2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 3. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 4. JL J- FARE FAMILY AND FARE TYPE BU IS USED 5. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 6. NEW TKT HAS EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN PREVIOUS TKT 7. WHEN SAME FARE USED - ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET EXCEPT ADV RES-TKTG - OTHERWISE ALL PROVISIONS MUST BE MET 8. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT TODAY PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 3. JL X- FARE FAMILY IS USED 4. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT TODAY PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 3. JL D- FARE FAMILY IS USED 4. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT TODAY PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 3. JL C- FARE FAMILY IS USED 4. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT TODAY PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 3. JL J- FARE FAMILY AND ANY FARE TYPE EXCEPT BU IS USED 4. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT TODAY PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 3. JL A- FARE FAMILY IS USED 4. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT TODAY PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 3. JL F- FARE FAMILY AND FARE TYPE FU IS USED 4. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 5. NEW TKT HAS EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN PREVIOUS TKT 6. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT TODAY PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 3. JL J- FARE FAMILY AND FARE TYPE BU IS USED 4. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 5. NEW TKT HAS EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN PREVIOUS TKT 6. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT REFUND VIA ORIGINAL FORM OF PAYMENT ENDORSEMENT BOX- NEW ENDORSEMENTS. OR - BEFORE DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT - APPLIES WITHIN TKT VALIDITY CHARGE USD 250.00 FOR REISSUE OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS -/CATEGORY 19 DISCOUNTS APPLY- NO FEE FOR INFANTS W/O SEAT AND REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT TODAY PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. CHANGE IS AFTER ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 3. JL X- FARE FAMILY IS USED 4. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT TODAY PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. CHANGE IS AFTER ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 3. JL D- FARE FAMILY IS USED 4. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT TODAY PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. CHANGE IS AFTER ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 3. JL C- FARE FAMILY IS USED 4. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT TODAY PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. CHANGE IS AFTER ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 3. JL J- FARE FAMILY AND ANY FARE TYPE EXCEPT BU IS USED 4. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT TODAY PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. CHANGE IS AFTER ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 3. JL A- FARE FAMILY IS USED 4. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT TODAY PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. CHANGE IS AFTER ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 3. JL F- FARE FAMILY AND FARE TYPE FU IS USED 4. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 5. NEW TKT HAS EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN PREVIOUS TKT 6. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT TODAY PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. CHANGE IS AFTER ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 3. JL J- FARE FAMILY AND FARE TYPE BU IS USED 4. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 5. NEW TKT HAS EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN PREVIOUS TKT 6. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT REFUND VIA ORIGINAL FORM OF PAYMENT ENDORSEMENT BOX- NEW ENDORSEMENTS. OR - AFTER DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT - APPLIES WITHIN TKT VALIDITY CHARGE USD 100.00 FOR REISSUE OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS -/CATEGORY 19 DISCOUNTS APPLY- NO FEE FOR INFANTS W/O SEAT AND REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 3. JL X- FARE FAMILY IS USED 4. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 5. WHEN SAME FARE USED - ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET EXCEPT ADV RES-TKTG - OTHERWISE ALL PROVISIONS MUST BE MET 6. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 3. JL D- FARE FAMILY IS USED 4. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 5. WHEN SAME FARE USED - ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET EXCEPT ADV RES-TKTG - OTHERWISE ALL PROVISIONS MUST BE MET 6. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 3. JL C- FARE FAMILY IS USED 4. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 5. WHEN SAME FARE USED - ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET EXCEPT ADV RES-TKTG - OTHERWISE ALL PROVISIONS MUST BE MET 6. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 3. JL J- FARE FAMILY AND ANY FARE TYPE EXCEPT BU IS USED 4. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 5. WHEN SAME FARE USED - ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET EXCEPT ADV RES-TKTG - OTHERWISE ALL PROVISIONS MUST BE MET 6. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 3. JL A- FARE FAMILY IS USED 4. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 5. WHEN SAME FARE USED - ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET EXCEPT ADV RES-TKTG - OTHERWISE ALL PROVISIONS MUST BE MET 6. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 3. JL F- FARE FAMILY AND FARE TYPE FU IS USED 4. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 5. NEW TKT HAS EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN PREVIOUS TKT 6. WHEN SAME FARE USED - ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET EXCEPT ADV RES-TKTG - OTHERWISE ALL PROVISIONS MUST BE MET 7. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 3. JL J- FARE FAMILY AND FARE TYPE BU IS USED 4. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 5. NEW TKT HAS EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN PREVIOUS TKT 6. WHEN SAME FARE USED - ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET EXCEPT ADV RES-TKTG - OTHERWISE ALL PROVISIONS MUST BE MET 7. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT REFUND VIA ORIGINAL FORM OF PAYMENT ENDORSEMENT BOX- NEW ENDORSEMENTS. 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JL D- FARE FAMILY IS USED 4. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 5. WHEN SAME FARE USED - ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET EXCEPT ADV RES-TKTG - OTHERWISE ALL PROVISIONS MUST BE MET 6. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. CHANGE IS AFTER ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 3. JL C- FARE FAMILY IS USED 4. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 5. WHEN SAME FARE USED - ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET EXCEPT ADV RES-TKTG - OTHERWISE ALL PROVISIONS MUST BE MET 6. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. CHANGE IS AFTER ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 3. JL J- FARE FAMILY AND ANY FARE TYPE EXCEPT BU IS USED 4. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 5. WHEN SAME FARE USED - ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET EXCEPT ADV RES-TKTG - OTHERWISE ALL PROVISIONS MUST BE MET 6. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. CHANGE IS AFTER ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 3. JL A- FARE FAMILY IS USED 4. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 5. WHEN SAME FARE USED - ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET EXCEPT ADV RES-TKTG - OTHERWISE ALL PROVISIONS MUST BE MET 6. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. CHANGE IS AFTER ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 3. JL F- FARE FAMILY AND FARE TYPE FU IS USED 4. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 5. NEW TKT HAS EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN PREVIOUS TKT 6. WHEN SAME FARE USED - ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET EXCEPT ADV RES-TKTG - OTHERWISE ALL PROVISIONS MUST BE MET 7. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. CHANGE IS AFTER ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 3. JL J- FARE FAMILY AND FARE TYPE BU IS USED 4. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF 5. NEW TKT HAS EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN PREVIOUS TKT 6. WHEN SAME FARE USED - ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET EXCEPT ADV RES-TKTG - OTHERWISE ALL PROVISIONS MUST BE MET 7. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT REFUND VIA ORIGINAL FORM OF PAYMENT ENDORSEMENT BOX- NEW ENDORSEMENTS.Category 33: Voluntary cancellationsREFER TO PENALTIES CATEGORY 16Category 50: ApplicationSTANDARD X APPLICATION CLASS OF SERVICE THESE FARES APPLY FOR BUSINESS CLASS SERVICE. 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Old Jul 17, 2019, 7:27 am
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Originally Posted by kingstontoon
Seems you can still force a routing through HNL using Matrix, though only with a destination of LAX, PHX or DFW at the US end. Can anyone make a one way RGN-KUL-TYO-HNL-LAX-JFK or similar price out for around £1200 or do the fare rules prohibit this? Looking for as close to 600 BA tier points as possible...
I did RGN - BKK - HND/NRT - HNL (stopover) - DFW - ORD (stopover) - NRT - BKK - RGN for 2400 + USD. Priced on Priceline directly couple months ago.
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Old Jul 17, 2019, 8:01 am
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Originally Posted by kingstontoon
Seems you can still force a routing through HNL using Matrix, though only with a destination of LAX, PHX or DFW at the US end. Can anyone make a one way RGN-KUL-TYO-HNL-LAX-JFK or similar price out for around £1200 or do the fare rules prohibit this? Looking for as close to 600 BA tier points as possible...
No as you can only do 1 transfer in US/Canada.

TRANSFERS
3 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION.
1 PERMITTED IN BKK/KUL/JAPAN/CANADA/UNITED
STATES IN EACH DIRECTION.
FARE BREAK AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED
ON THE FARE COMPONENT.
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Old Jul 17, 2019, 8:25 am
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Originally Posted by Tokyoite
how dare the question!!
So is that a no?
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Old Jul 17, 2019, 8:28 am
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Originally Posted by JakeRobertson212
So is that a no?
This cannot be booked with origination in the US, Jake. Most international fares are only valid in one direction. The pricing is based on all sorts of factors, sometimes including the economic conditions of the originating city.
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Old Jul 17, 2019, 11:41 am
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Originally Posted by olouie


Trying to see that code on matrix seems to return nothing for me. Maybe better luck not to sfo.
I looked and at least for the cities I track on the west coast, the X fare is the same as it was several weeks ago before the fare rules for issuance were changed. Whether you can find X bucket availability or not (EF is a good tool for that, if you are playing with this fare you should consider yourself a prime candidate for an EF subscription), the X fare is there and is the same price as it always was.
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Old Jul 17, 2019, 3:38 pm
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Originally Posted by stephem
I looked and at least for the cities I track on the west coast, the X fare is the same as it was several weeks ago before the fare rules for issuance were changed. Whether you can find X bucket availability or not (EF is a good tool for that, if you are playing with this fare you should consider yourself a prime candidate for an EF subscription), the X fare is there and is the same price as it always was.
Yep have an EF subscription too. Ending up finding a few, but dates don't line up. Still a great deal so just booked it.
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Old Jul 17, 2019, 11:28 pm
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Some visa information for those considering buying this fare.

This morning I positioned to Yangon to start the outbound part of RGN-BKK-NRT-NYC-LAX-BOS-NRT-BKK-RGN.

The Myanmar eVisa website implies that a transit visa-on-arrival for onward international flights departing within 24 hours is possible, but it doesn't explicitly state as much.

I decided to test the idea.

As backup in case it didn't work, I applied for in advance and was approved for a regular tourist visa (which is good for entry any time within 90 days, so I will use it on the return leg). $50 application fee.

I positioned DMK-RGN on Thai Lion Air this morning. At check-in in the rep asked me for my tourist visa, which I showed and she checked me in. In retrospect I wish I had just shown her the onward flight itinerary and seen if she let me check-in. That's the one part of this that remains murky. I suspect YMMV with airline representatives letting you check-in without a visa.

On arrival in RGN this morning I first tried to go through at the Transit Door (which had two staff members present, although the door was closed). That would have been the best case scenario, because I could have just hung out in the airside lounge till my evening flight. No dice. They shooed me away towards immigration in care of an airline rep.

I showed the rep my printed onward itinerary with a flight leaving this evening (I didn't mention the tourist visa), which seemed to give her pause. She conferred with several other people including the visa-on-arrival desk and came back with the visa-on-arrival application form. Needed 1 passport photo, the printed confirmation and itinerary of my onward flight, the application form, and $20 cash application fee.

There are passport photo machines next to the visa-on-arrival desk that take USD 1s and 5s, but I had some extra passport photos with me so didn't test them. There are no ATMs or money exchange before immigration, and the desk only accepts USD, so make sure to have cash.

Filled out the form and they put a full-page sticker transit visa valid for today only in my passport (make sure you have the whole empty page).

Main Takeaway: It is possible to cut visa costs for this fare from $100 down to $40. (Or from $50 to $20 if you accidentally miss that last flight back to RGN).

I think transit visa-on-arrival should also be okay for next-day flights as long as they are within 24 hours of the arrival flight, but I can't say for sure.

Unfortunately now sitting in a coffee shop by the check-in counters for 6 hours until check-in opens for my evening flight. (They charge 1000MMK/1.5GB for wifi out here, although it's free in the airside lounge).

Forgive me for being a little ramble-y. I'm trying to pass the time. I spent 3 days here last time, so I don't think another 6 hours in the city will do anything for me.

Love you, bye

edit: for enhanced woke-ness
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Old Jul 18, 2019, 12:44 am
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How did you get NRT-NYC-LAX-BOS-NRT ? How much was the fare?
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Old Jul 18, 2019, 1:26 am
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Originally Posted by wholenoni
How did you get NRT-NYC-LAX-BOS-NRT ? How much was the fare?
I booked this trip by making a side trip to Yangon a month ago and going to a physical Sun Far Travel Agency location as others in the thread suggested. Found the itinerary I wanted on Matrix and booked it in person.

Searched something like this on Matrix.


But now it appears to be bookable on OTAs, so if I did it again I would use bookwithmatrix or something similar.
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Old Jul 18, 2019, 3:21 am
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Originally Posted by wholenoni
How did you get NRT-NYC-LAX-BOS-NRT ? How much was the fare?

Able to construct to rouve via JFK if book on JL's thailand page,drawback is JFK-LAX v.v. only able to book on JL codeshare flights
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Old Jul 18, 2019, 9:51 am
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Originally Posted by Causeway
Lots of dates - try this:
Well it turns out I just got unlucky in timing for a few days, it went off the market for two days when refiling. If anyone needs a local travel agent I had great luck with Columbus. They are quick to respond to emails and also good on Facebook messenger, 7 days a week.

I didn't end up having to use them now that the Myanmar requirement is gone but he was able to pull up any fare I could find.
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Old Jul 18, 2019, 10:39 am
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I would act quickly, the fare appears to have a ticket by date of 18JUL now. I'm not sure what will happen after today.
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Old Jul 18, 2019, 11:32 am
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base fare of ticket appears to be increased.
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Old Jul 18, 2019, 12:02 pm
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booked expedia mdl-jfk-lax-jfk-mdl for feb at $2115 just before midnite now itamatrix shows XNN0N4CE $28xx to lax and $4K+ to JFK, 12:30 AM myanmar time expedia still has lower fares listed
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Old Jul 18, 2019, 2:40 pm
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Any advice on positioning from SGN in November? I grabbed one of these yesterday and will be coming from Vietnam. Flight leaves Sunday night - and there is one direct flight that gets in at 11 a.m. (SGN-RGN).

Or - I could hop on one of the discounters like Thai Air, fly into SGN-DMK Saturday night, spend the night someplace close to the airport, and catch one of the 3 direct flights to DMK-RGN the next morning. Gives me more options in case something happens - flying from SGN on Sunday - there's only 1 direct flight.

I don't have any experience traveling/flying in Asia, and don't know about weather delays in November, if IRROPS are common, etc. What would you do?
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