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Capita1ist Oct 25, 2011 12:34 pm

FareComprare Question
 
I'm getting pretty good at using ITA and FareCompare, however -

My question is - If I see a fare on FareCompare (WAS-LAX $219 on US currently) how do I see the routing/fare rules associated with it. When I click on it in FareCompare it takes me to a blank page.

I'm looking for something like this,

CO/UA Rules:

Quote:
1. WAS-WAS/PHL/EWR/CLT/CLE-FLL
2. WAS-WAS/PHL/EWR/CLT/CLE-CLT-FLL
3. WAS-CLT-FLL
4. WAS-WAS/PHL/EWR/CLT/CLE-TPA/PNS/PBI/ORL/MIA/JAX/FMY/FLL-
FLL
5. WAS-TPA/PNS/PBI/ORL/MIA/JAX/FMY/FLL-FLL
6. WAS-FLL


I know I can go into ITA and plug in all the different possible routes through US hubs etc. - Seems like a waste if I can get the above rules.:cool:

Thanks

-Cap

BryanIAH Oct 25, 2011 12:45 pm

ExpertFlyer or KVS.

Capita1ist Oct 25, 2011 12:50 pm

Thanks Bryan
 
Did you recognize the red text? :D

BryanIAH Oct 25, 2011 1:00 pm


Originally Posted by Capita1ist (Post 17333739)
Did you recognize the red text? :D

Yes. :D

WAS-LAX is valid 10/31-11/2.


1. WAS-WAS/PHX/PHL/CLT/BOS-LAX
2. WAS-LAS-LAX
3. WAS-LAX

IggySD Oct 25, 2011 1:08 pm


Originally Posted by BryanIAH (Post 17333803)
Yes. :D

WAS-LAX is valid 10/31-11/2.

I've noticed in a couple of fare rules you've posted something like:
WAS-WAS/PHX/PHL/CLT/BOS-LAX

How does that WAS-WAS work? I don't think there are flights between DCA/IAD/BWI are there? I've seen the same thing where LAX-LAX seems to be a possibility. Is it a remnant of when there were flights between co-terminals?

Capita1ist Oct 25, 2011 2:48 pm


Originally Posted by IggySD (Post 17333842)

How does that WAS-WAS work? I don't think there are flights between DCA/IAD/BWI are there? I've seen the same thing where LAX-LAX seems to be a possibility. Is it a remnant of when there were flights between co-terminals?

I could be wrong but I think that just means you could go direct from WAS-LAX or connect through one of the other options BOS/PHL/CLT etc.

In other words a connection isn't required.

jjmiller69 Oct 25, 2011 3:05 pm


Originally Posted by Capita1ist (Post 17334504)
I could be wrong but I think that just means you could go direct from WAS-LAX or connect through one of the other options BOS/PHL/CLT etc.

In other words a connection isn't required.

I think you are right. ^

BryanIAH Oct 25, 2011 3:14 pm


Originally Posted by IggySD (Post 17333842)
I've noticed in a couple of fare rules you've posted something like:
WAS-WAS/PHX/PHL/CLT/BOS-LAX

How does that WAS-WAS work? I don't think there are flights between DCA/IAD/BWI are there? I've seen the same thing where LAX-LAX seems to be a possibility. Is it a remnant of when there were flights between co-terminals?

WAS-WAS wouldn't work. I think they group airports into regions then apply the same rules to flights in that region. For example, if WAS and PHL were in the same region you would get:

WAS-WAS/PHX/PHL/CLT/BOS-LAX

PHL-WAS/PHX/PHL/CLT/BOS-LAX

Of course this copy/paste routing rule style gets airlines into trouble sometimes like the DEN-LAX via CLE fare I posted last fall.

IggySD Oct 25, 2011 3:24 pm


Originally Posted by Capita1ist (Post 17334504)
I could be wrong but I think that just means you could go direct from WAS-LAX or connect through one of the other options BOS/PHL/CLT etc.

In other words a connection isn't required.

Hmm, so for the same example:

WAS-WAS/PHX/PHL/CLT/BOS-LAX

The routings available just from that line of text are WAS-LAX, WAS-PHX-LAX, WAS-PHL-LAX, WAS-CLT-LAX, or WAS-BOS-LAX but it doesn't mean WAS-WAS-LAX?

That seems counter intuitive to me. Why wouldn't it just be filed as two different routings?

WAS-PHX/PHL/CLT/BOS-LAX
WAS-LAX

Ahh, and just after posting I read BryanIAH's response regarding the regional divisions. That makes sense if it's just a general string of airports that is added rather than created individually for each fare.

Thanks!

belfordrocks Oct 26, 2011 4:17 am

Yeah, the connections are often lumped together as one group. So for a PHL-CLT flight one might see PHL-WAS/PHL/CLT/NYC/BOS-PHL. Likewise, these groups aren't updated regularly, for example, STL is often still listed as a connecting point on many AA itineraries.


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