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Old Jul 5, 2017, 8:33 am
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Transportation options from HGH to Hangzhou city center or PVG. Please add your name and your itinerary if you are interested in meeting other fellow FTers.
1) Taxi to Hangzhou city center, about 100 RMB ($15) for the entire party, not per person, walking from international terminal to domestic terminal (i.e., right turn after you get outside of the international terminal building), you will see taxi queue.
2) Shuttle bus, 20 RMB ($3), to Wulinmen CAAC Ticket Office or East Railway Station Line (two most popular options). The waiting hall for the shuttle bus is at Gate 10 (you can purchase ticket at Gate 14, too) Arrival Hall, on the first floor of the terminal building. Further details, see https://www.travelchinaguide.com/cit...ation.htm#hang
3) Shuttle from Hangzhou city center to PVG, 110 RMB, 3.5 hours: a) Wulinmen Ticket Office Central Hangzhou to PVG: (5:30, 6:10, 7:00, 8:00, 9:00, 10:00, 11:00, 12:00, 13:00, 14:00, 15:00, 16:00, 17:00)
b) Hangzhou Dragon Sports Center to PVG, 110 RMB, (7:00, 8:30, 10:30, 12:30, 14:30, 16:00
). Further details, see https://traveladept.com/bus-pudong-hangzhou/
4) Train from Hangzhou East station to Shanghai Hongqiao; less than 100 RMB (~1 hr); then you can take Subway Line #2 to PVG, ~10 RMB and 2 hrs; or shuttle bus (Airport Line #1), about 1 hr, 30 RMB ($4.5), every 15 - 25 minutes. The Hangzhou East ticketing windows are located on 1st Floor, EAST Area of the station. Please allow 20-30 minutes for walking to 2nd floor departure, and security check. The frequency of Hangzhou-Hongqiao trains is as good as that of subways in many US cities.
5) Getting cash at HGH The international terminal at HGH (where you arrive) only has an exchange vendor with hefty fees that is open limited hours. However, the adjacent domestic terminal has a bank ATM. To get to the entrance of the domestic terminal, exit the international terminal and keep walking right, past the taxi stand. Then enter and take the escalator to the second floor. The bank ATM will be on your left, next to the escalator.
6 Getting TWOV without issues The advice is to print out your itinerary, hotel reservation, etc., to speed up the procedure at the entry point in China. At SFO, the check-in agents were clueless, so be prepared to get there very early and fight for your boarding passes. Please read the last few pages on this thread for first-hand experiences. Good luck. There is a thread on FT for further details. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/china...hread-231.html

ATM To get to the entrance of the domestic terminal, exit the international terminal and keep walking right, past the taxi stand. Then enter and take the escalator to the second floor. The bank ATM will be on your left, next to the escalator.

Travel information for Beijing and airport:
Beijing will have 2 hubs starting Sept 30,2019. PEK (Beijing Capital International Airport) is original main hub and will continue for Star Alliance flights and Cathay Pacific (including subsidiary Cathay Dragon Air). PKX (Beijing Daxing International Airport, will debut Sept 30, 2019)
planned for airlines of the SkyTeam alliance and One World Alliance (AA, BA, etc. except Cathay Pacific) will be relocated to the new airport. Most flyers taking advantage of this China OJ deal will continue fly through PEK. Some people who use positioning flights through Beijing using non-Star Alliance airlines need to make sure you are flying into PEK, or else need 2hr ground transportation from PKX to PEK.
PEK allows TWOV within 24hr to stay inside security zone airside. This is more convenient for immediate turn than Shanghai-PVG, which force all passengers to exit immigration and customs, then re-check in from land side, even if you have immediate turn within 24hr.

Who are going? When for outbound and inbound? Routing from major hubs:
July 2017

August 2017
Quinlanty: Aug 3, ORD-HKG-HGH; Aug 7, PVG-LAX-SFO-IAH-ORD-YYZ (see post #284 for a brief report on TWOV procedure at HGH).

September 2017
Kmxu: 1 Sept, IAD-HNL-GUM-, 3 Sept, GUM-PVG; 4 Sept, PVG-SFO-ORD
Quinlanty; Sep 1, IAD-HNL-GUM; Sept 3, GUM-PVG, Sep 4, PVG-SFO-ORD-YYZ
pushmyredbutton: Sept 1; SFO-HNL-GUM-HKG Sept 3rd: HKG-HGH, Sept 4th: PVG-SFO
X31: 8 Sept BTV-EWR-SFO-HKG-HGH; 11 Sept PVG-NRT; 12 Sept HND-SFO-IAH-EWR; 13 Sept EWR-YUL
Kmxu + 3: 9 Sept, IAD-SFO-HKG-HGH; 12 Sept, PVG-SFO-IAD
techdarko: 12 Sept, SFO-HKG; 14 Sept, HKG-HGH; 16 Sept, PVG-SFO
Quinlanty: Sep 14; SFO-HKG-HGH; Sep 18, PVG-SFO-YVR
bencanfly: Sep 14, SFO-HKG-HGH; Sep 18, PVG-SFO-IAD
tde211: Sept 17, SFO-HKG-HGH; Oct 18 - PVG-SFO-YVR
Fishleafer: Sep 20, SFO-HKG-HGH; Sep 26, PVG-SFO-YVR
X31: 21 Sept BTV-EWR-HNL-GUM-HKG; 23 Sept HKG-HGH; 25 Sept PVG-SFO-IAH-EWR; 26 Sept EWR-YUL
985X: Sept 22, LAX-SFO-HKG; Sept 23, HKG-HGH; Sept 25, PVG-LAX; Sept 26, LAX-YVR
flyingstudent: Sept 23: SFO-HGH
netoreisinger: 30 Sept, BOS-EWR-HKG-HGH; 4 Oct, PVG-SFO-ORD-YUL

October 2017
gba: Oct 22, SFO-HKG-HGH; Oct 29: PVG-NRT-SEA-YVR
beyounged: Oct 24, SAN-SFO-HKG, Oct 26, HKG-HGH, Nov 8, PVG-HND-YVR
as219: Oct 26, LGA-ORD-HKG (+1); Oct 30: HKG-SFO-EWR-YUL (+1)
X31: 26 Oct BTV-ORD-HKG; 28 Oct HKG-HGH; 30 Oct PVG-SFO; 31 Oct SFO-ORD-YUL
riphamilton +1: Oct 27, BOS-EWR-HNL-GUM-HKG (+1); Oct 30: HKG-GUM-NRT; Oct 31: NRT-ORD-YUL

November 2017
Quinlanty: Nov 3, BOS-EWR-HKG-HGH; Nov 6, HGH-SFO-IAH-ORD-YYZ
pushmyredbutton: Nov 19: BDL-ORD-HKG-HGH, Nov 27 HGH HKG-SFO-(YVR)
Davistev: Nov26, LAX-NRT-PVG

December 2017
Kmxu: Dec 1, IAH-HNL-GUM-HKG; Dec 3, HKG-HGH, Dec 4, PVG-SFO-IAD
X31: Dec 1, YUL-IAD-IAH; Dec 2, IAH-LAX-PVG; Dec 4, HGH-HKG-GUM-HNL; Dec 4, HNL-EWR-BTV.

January 2018
Kewldude21: Jan 14 IAH-EWR-HKG Jan 16 HKG-HGH Jan 22 PVG-SFO-IAH
mpiotrow: Jan 21, ORD-SFO-KIX; Jan 23, KIX-HGH; Jan 24, HGH-HKG-GUM-HNL-DEN-YYZ

February 2018

March 2018
Davistev: Mar03, PVG-SFO-YVR
flyer777lr: Mar 20, DEN-HNL-GUM; Mar 23, GUM-KIX (NH)-HGH; Mar 26, HGH-HKG-GUM-HNL; Mar 27, HNL-EWR-YYZ
Kewldude21: Mar 22 IAH-EWR-HKG Mar 24 HKG-HGH Mar 28 HGH-PEK-SFO-IAH
flyme2: Mar 28, BTV-ORD-HKG; Mar 29: HKG-HGH; Apr 17: HKG-EWR-YUL
JetSetDave: Mar 29, EUG-SFO-HKG-HGH; April 3, PVG-SFO-EUG
Coeur 05: March 31, bos-sfo-hkg-pvg; April 5, PVG-lax-ord-yow

April 2018
ttyl: Apr 01 BTV-IAD-EWR-HKG; Apr 02 HKG-HGH; Apr 04 PVG-SFO-IAD-LGA-YUL
Toronto1970: April 6, EWR-ORD-HKG-HGH; April 13, CTU-SFO-EWR-YYZ
Exiled in Express: April 18, ORD-HKG-HGH; April 30, WUH-NRT-SEA-YVR
X31: Apr. 28 : BTV-EWR-HKG-HGH; May 1st : PVG-KIX; May 15th : ITM-HND-YVR-YYJ

May 2018
Kewldude21: May 3 IAH-SFO-HKG May 13 PEK-SFO-IAH

October 2018
KMXU, Oct. 18, IAD-SFO-HKG-HGH, Oct. 25, PVG-SFO-IAD

November 2018
KMXU, Nov. 14, ORD-HKG-XIY, Nov. 19, PEK-ORD

September 2019
xinliz Sept 4 SFO-NRT-PVG Sept 25 PEK-EWR-YOW
Flying Machine Sept 9 LAX-SFO-HKG Sept 10 HKG-HGH Sept 16 PVG-SFO-IAD

October 2019
kmxu: Oct 26, IAH-HNL-GUM-HKG, Oct. 27, HKG-XIY, Oct 30, CTU-SFO-IAH
wolfpacktrojan: Oct. 26, EWR-SFO-PVG, Oct. 28, PVG-NRT-SFO-YVR

November 2019
kmxuand his colleague: Nov 9, IAD-PEK, Nov 12, PEK-NRT-HNL-SFO-YYZ
kmxu's colleague: Nov 13, YYZ-IAD-NRT-PEK, Nov. 16, PEK-ORD
kmxu: Nov. 20, IAD-NRT-PEK, Nov. 22, PEK-EWR-YYZ
kmxu: Nov. 23, YYZ-IAD-NRT-PEK, Nov. 26, PEK-ORD
aquanine Nov 28: LAX-SFO-KIX, Nov 30: KIX-PEK, Dec 2: PEK-SFO-YVR

December 2019
kmxu: Nov. 30, IAD-NRT-PEK, Dec. 2, PEK-ORD-YYZ
kmxu: Dec. 3, YYZ-IAD-NRT-PEK, Dec. 6, PEK-ORD
jskang Dec 5, EWR-PVG, Dec 8, PEK-NRT-IAD-YOW

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Old Jan 30, 2019, 9:19 am
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Originally Posted by penguinflies
@mpiotrow - I am doing mine 25Feb, ORD-DEN-HNL-GUM-HKG. 27Feb HKG-HGH. 28Feb PVG-SFO-ORD-YUL. HGH-PVG is 27Feb, PVG-SFO departs on the 28th. Though I was mulling over doing a SDC to get on the 0015 28Feb PVG-SFO vs my 1330 booked flight.
Is SDC allowed on int'l flights?
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Old Jan 30, 2019, 9:21 am
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Originally Posted by Jayz_004
Is SDC allowed on int'l flights?
Yes
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Old Jan 30, 2019, 6:30 pm
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Re: sdc. I would pay for change because of my status. Depends on how I feel at pvg and what I do in hkg on my overnight there I have booked a hotel with free airport shuttle in pvg. So I will check in and rest and recuperate for a few hours and then decide the travel option.
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Old Jan 30, 2019, 7:02 pm
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For those not in the know:

PVG has some amazing sleeping rooms in the Air China lounge. If you can SDC to the midnight flight, it's a great way to rest up and arrive into SFO at a reasonable hour to go straight to bed again
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Old Feb 1, 2019, 8:50 am
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Hi,

@mpiotrow - I am doing the HGH-PVG on 08Mar. Let me know if you end up travelling on this day. I've previously done this trip, and it's not that complicated. Just follow the main wikipost on this thread.

Few questions:
  1. I will be landing from GUM-HKG the previous day (07Mar) arriving at 11pm. Next day flight with KA to HGH is at 8 am. I won't be alone this time (have 2 kids with me), so I am worried about lodging. Does anyone have any recommendations on lodging options (hopefully not too expensive)? If I was alone, wouldn't mind staying in the terminal.
  2. Also, I'm *G. Would I be able to access any lounge coming in on a UA flight? When travelling to the US as final destination from international flights, I'm able to access United Club lounges.
  3. Are the 144 hr TWOV rules still valid? I did the HKG-HGH, PVG-SFO route last year, and it went ok. Will need TWOV visas too this year.
  4. Should I pre-book train tickets from HGH to Shanghai on trip.com now to ensure spots? I'm just concerned if there are any delays with my tight connecting flights and end up arriving at HGH the next day for example.
Thanks
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Old Feb 1, 2019, 9:01 am
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Originally Posted by ttyl
@mpiotrow - I am doing the HGH-PVG on 08Mar. Let me know if you end up travelling on this day. I've previously done this trip, and it's not that complicated. Just follow the main wikipost on this thread.
@ttyl, it looks like I'll miss you by a couple days. I'm actually looking at doing the trip in that direction (into HGH, out of PVG) around Feb 25-28, and then doing the trip in the opposite direction (into PVG, out of HGH) around March 7-11. I guess it's possible we'll be in the same city at the same time! I'd be arriving in PVG on Mar 8, and flying out of HGH on Mar 10.

Thanks for the reassurance that the trip isn't too complicated. ^ I'll definitely be reading the Wiki info over and over to make sure I get it! haha
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Old Feb 1, 2019, 9:07 am
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Hmm, Are you doing 2 separate trips (i.e. 1. USA-HKG-HGH, PVG-USA-CAN, and then 2. USA-PVG, HGH-HKG-USA-CAN)? Do you have any Chinese Visa?
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Old Feb 1, 2019, 9:10 am
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Originally Posted by ttyl
Hmm, Are you doing 2 separate trips (i.e. 1. USA-HKG-HGH, PVG-USA-CAN, and then 2. USA-PVG, HGH-HKG-USA-CAN)? Do you have any Chinese Visa?
Yep, 2 separate trips, just as you mentioned. And yes, I have a Chinese Visa.
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Old Feb 2, 2019, 6:12 am
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Originally Posted by penguinflies
@mpiotrow - I am doing mine 25Feb, ORD-DEN-HNL-GUM-HKG. 27Feb HKG-HGH. 28Feb PVG-SFO-ORD-YUL. HGH-PVG is 27Feb, PVG-SFO departs on the 28th. Though I was mulling over doing a SDC to get on the 0015 28Feb PVG-SFO vs my 1330 booked flight.
are you also based on ord? How much was this fare? I may join you
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Old Feb 2, 2019, 11:12 am
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Originally Posted by stinkyhelmet


are you also based on ord? How much was this fare? I may join you
You can play around with this google flights link. Try different cities in Canada (YYZ, YUL, etc) for the final destination. $317 is the price I’m seeing right now.

https://flights.app.goo.gl/e5uYd
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Old Feb 4, 2019, 8:52 am
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Originally Posted by ttyl
Hi,

@mpiotrow - I am doing the HGH-PVG on 08Mar. Let me know if you end up travelling on this day. I've previously done this trip, and it's not that complicated. Just follow the main wikipost on this thread.

Few questions:
  1. I will be landing from GUM-HKG the previous day (07Mar) arriving at 11pm. Next day flight with KA to HGH is at 8 am. I won't be alone this time (have 2 kids with me), so I am worried about lodging. Does anyone have any recommendations on lodging options (hopefully not too expensive)? If I was alone, wouldn't mind staying in the terminal.
  2. Also, I'm *G. Would I be able to access any lounge coming in on a UA flight? When travelling to the US as final destination from international flights, I'm able to access United Club lounges.
  3. Are the 144 hr TWOV rules still valid? I did the HKG-HGH, PVG-SFO route last year, and it went ok. Will need TWOV visas too this year.
  4. Should I pre-book train tickets from HGH to Shanghai on trip.com now to ensure spots? I'm just concerned if there are any delays with my tight connecting flights and end up arriving at HGH the next day for example.
Thanks
1. Regal and Marriott are probably the only options near HKG... I'm not sure if it's worth the hassle going into the city and back given your short layover.
2. I don't think there's access to lounge as an arriving pax at any of the *A lounges, but I guess give it a try at the UA lounge? Do you have any credit cards with Priority Pass access? If so, that'll give you access to the Plaza Premium Lounges.
3. 144-hr TWOV rules is still valid at select cities, which HGH is on the list.
4. Early march should be fine in terms of train tickets. Not too concerned about availability. There are probably close to ten trains every hour for this route.
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Old Feb 5, 2019, 9:09 am
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Regarding the arrival/departure in HKG when connecting to HGH, how does it work when arriving on UA and departing on CX/KA? Will you get the connecting CX/KA boarding passes when checking in for the UA flights? I'm guessing not, and that you need to go a transfer desk (or go through security and go to the check-in counter) sometime to get them, right? There are 2 different reasons for my asking...I have a trip coming up in which I have a 9 hour connection in HKG in which I don't plan on leaving the airport, and I have a coworker who is doing a similar trip in which he has a 14 hour connection and wants to leave the airport. In my case, if I don't leave the airport, will I be able to go to the departure gates and/or lounges without a connecting boarding pass (I'm assuming I won't be able to get the connecting boarding pass until ~T-3 before the departing flight)? And, in my coworker's case, if he leaves the airport, will he be stuck landside until he can get his departing boarding pass (again, I'm guessing that will be available at ~T-3)?
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Old Feb 5, 2019, 9:34 am
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Originally Posted by mpiotrow
Regarding the arrival/departure in HKG when connecting to HGH, how does it work when arriving on UA and departing on CX/KA? Will you get the connecting CX/KA boarding passes when checking in for the UA flights? I'm guessing not, and that you need to go a transfer desk (or go through security and go to the check-in counter) sometime to get them, right? There are 2 different reasons for my asking...I have a trip coming up in which I have a 9 hour connection in HKG in which I don't plan on leaving the airport, and I have a coworker who is doing a similar trip in which he has a 14 hour connection and wants to leave the airport. In my case, if I don't leave the airport, will I be able to go to the departure gates and/or lounges without a connecting boarding pass (I'm assuming I won't be able to get the connecting boarding pass until ~T-3 before the departing flight)? And, in my coworker's case, if he leaves the airport, will he be stuck landside until he can get his departing boarding pass (again, I'm guessing that will be available at ~T-3)?
When you arrive on your UA flight into HKG, you will hit the transit counters before immigration, and the CX/KA agents there will be able to print out your BP. CX also offers online check-in, so it's worth trying that as well so you have the BP before leaving your house. If you are not leaving the airport, go through the transit security and you'll be at the gates. If your coworker is leaving the airport, clear immigration and customs. He/she could either pick up the BP at the transit desk, if they let them, or at the check-in counter upstairs (above arrivals). He/she could also check in at the airport express terminal before heading back from the city.
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Old Feb 5, 2019, 9:37 am
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Originally Posted by mpiotrow
Regarding the arrival/departure in HKG when connecting to HGH, how does it work when arriving on UA and departing on CX/KA? Will you get the connecting CX/KA boarding passes when checking in for the UA flights? I'm guessing not, and that you need to go a transfer desk (or go through security and go to the check-in counter) sometime to get them, right? There are 2 different reasons for my asking...I have a trip coming up in which I have a 9 hour connection in HKG in which I don't plan on leaving the airport, and I have a coworker who is doing a similar trip in which he has a 14 hour connection and wants to leave the airport. In my case, if I don't leave the airport, will I be able to go to the departure gates and/or lounges without a connecting boarding pass (I'm assuming I won't be able to get the connecting boarding pass until ~T-3 before the departing flight)? And, in my coworker's case, if he leaves the airport, will he be stuck landside until he can get his departing boarding pass (again, I'm guessing that will be available at ~T-3)?
I've always gotten my KA boarding pass at the UA checkin kiosk at SFO. I couldn't change seats or anything, but it did check me in and spit out a boarding pass.

Either way, the counters for KA/CX are open all day, so there should be no waiting until T-3, either landside or airside, if you need to pick up that onward boarding pass.
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Old Feb 5, 2019, 9:39 am
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Originally Posted by Jayz_004
When you arrive on your UA flight into HKG, you will hit the transit counters before immigration, and the CX/KA agents there will be able to print out your BP. CX also offers online check-in, so it's worth trying that as well so you have the BP before leaving your house. If you are not leaving the airport, go through the transit security and you'll be at the gates. If your coworker is leaving the airport, clear immigration and customs.
If either of us is unable to do online check-in for some reason, will the CX/KA agents at the transit counters be able to print out boarding passes before T-3 (more specifically, sometime around T-8.5 )?
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