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Originally Posted by mke9499
(Post 24596534)
I remember flying Midwest Connect's nonstop on the route, leaving a void at MKE, since then.
Would it make any sense for WN to offer service? Most likely it's not a Southwest market -- it's awfully short for much local leisure traffic, and there's not enough business travel to support a 737. Southwest also isn't much about "dedicated" 1-stop flights like they once were, so MKE-IND would need to largely rely on local passenger. Fifteen years back perhaps they'd have added a route like MKE-IND as something like SEA-MKE-IND-HOU to service SEA-IND and MKE-HOU thru traffic. But those days are pretty much long gone. That, plus Southwest's move away from shorter hops, make IND pretty unlikely for Southwest in Milwaukee. I think the best shot for a new Southwest destination in the "short-ish" range is Nashville. It's far enough that flying compares favorably with driving both for business or leisure. And Southwest's pseudo-hub in BNA means a broad array of connection destinations are possible over Nashville. The biggest potential fly in the ointment is Nashville might compete with Atlanta for connecting flow, and keeping Atlanta in decent shape is first priority. |
Originally Posted by knope2001
(Post 24596062)
There's no checked baggage service and kiosk-only check, so they don't necessarily need a ticket counter presence. I doubt they'd staff any of their own people, but perhaps they might pay someone for minimal support, at least underwing.
Originally Posted by WIRunner
(Post 24596164)
I know the mobile jet bridges are adjustable up and down, but it looks like they're flying fairly small jets.
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Originally Posted by knope2001
(Post 24596934)
MKE-IND was probably my most-frequent route, and it's definitely a market with a significant business segment.
Most likely it's not a Southwest market -- it's awfully short for much local leisure traffic, and there's not enough business travel to support a 737. Southwest also isn't much about "dedicated" 1-stop flights like they once were, so MKE-IND would need to largely rely on local passenger. Fifteen years back perhaps they'd have added a route like MKE-IND as something like SEA-MKE-IND-HOU to service SEA-IND and MKE-HOU thru traffic. But those days are pretty much long gone. That, plus Southwest's move away from shorter hops, make IND pretty unlikely for Southwest in Milwaukee. I think the best shot for a new Southwest destination in the "short-ish" range is Nashville. It's far enough that flying compares favorably with driving both for business or leisure. And Southwest's pseudo-hub in BNA means a broad array of connection destinations are possible over Nashville. The biggest potential fly in the ointment is Nashville might compete with Atlanta for connecting flow, and keeping Atlanta in decent shape is first priority. MKE-BNA MKE-PIT MKE-PHL MKE-RDU MKE-AUS MKE-HOU MKE-SAT MKE-SAN (Daily Service) |
Looks like OneJet will use D27, and they have indeed opened their own ticket counter with permanent signage and two check-in kiosks. Definitely a notable investment given that they could have simply paid someone to post a small sign and agree to handle all four, 8-seat flights per week. Hopefully it's an indication they have real growth plans here for the future. They definitely don't look amateurish or fly-by-night, which can't hurt.
Here's their MKE ticket counter -- sorry for the blurry image... [IMG]http://i62.tinypic.com/suylo2.jpg[/IMG] |
Definitely more permanent than Aeromexico. I didn't even realise that they were doing flight out of MKE. Are they just Funjet charters (like the old Midwest ones?)
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Yup, AeroMexico is running the daily MKE-CUN flight plus some additional routes like Cozumel and Ixtapa. The season winds down in a week or two.
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Here is the OneJet aircraft, it has been doing proving runs the last few days.
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N...830Z/KIND/KMKE |
Originally Posted by knope2001
(Post 24608870)
Yup, AeroMexico is running the daily MKE-CUN flight plus some additional routes like Cozumel and Ixtapa. The season winds down in a week or two.
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Now you see him, now you don't
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OneJet will run MKE-PIT-MKE M-Th starting 11May. Leaves MKE at 8am, leaves PIT at 4:30p.
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Originally Posted by mizzou65201
(Post 24748444)
OneJet will run MKE-PIT-MKE M-Th starting 11May. Leaves MKE at 8am, leaves PIT at 4:30p.
MKE-DSM MKE-DAY MKE-CMH MKE-GRR MKE-BNA MKE-SDF MKE-MKG My dad goes to PIT and IND a lot for business and once I told him about this airline he got pretty happy about it. |
I wonder if people realize how small the Hawker 400 that OneJet uses actually is? I have been fortunate enough to fly many private airplanes. The Hawker 400 is a small plane by any standards. The cabin height is 4'7" and the width is 4'10". This means that adults cannot stand, and you are very close to the other passengers. Four of the seats face each other. This a very normal arrangement in the world of private aviation, but most commercial passengers have not had any exposure to small, tight interiors. The OneJet press releases talk about the modern aircraft, but I don't think that most people do the research to learn about what they are going to be flying on. I find it interesting that OneJet does not have any information or photos of the interior of the aircraft. It will be interesting to get the reaction of passengers, and to see if this hybrid of private and commercial aviation will be successful.
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Originally Posted by mizzou65201
(Post 24748444)
OneJet will run MKE-PIT-MKE M-Th starting 11May. Leaves MKE at 8am, leaves PIT at 4:30p.
Originally Posted by MKEflyer95
(Post 24750068)
I wonder if OneJet will actually put in some more routes that Midwest Connect or SkyWest operated in the past like these routes: MKE-DSM MKE-DAY MKE-CMH MKE-GRR MKE-BNA MKE-SDF MKE-MKG
Originally Posted by JustaGoodGuy
(Post 24752020)
I wonder if people realize how small the Hawker 400 that OneJet uses actually is? I have been fortunate enough to fly many private airplanes. The Hawker 400 is a small plane by any standards. The cabin height is 4'7" and the width is 4'10". This means that adults cannot stand, and you are very close to the other passengers. Four of the seats face each other. This a very normal arrangement in the world of private aviation, but most commercial passengers have not had any exposure to small, tight interiors. The OneJet press releases talk about the modern aircraft, but I don't think that most people do the research to learn about what they are going to be flying on. I find it interesting that OneJet does not have any information or photos of the interior of the aircraft. It will be interesting to get the reaction of passengers, and to see if this hybrid of private and commercial aviation will be successful.
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I see that starting November 1, Delta is upgauging the MKE-LGA route for one flight per day to a 717. This is good news for the route. I think that we all knew that it was coming, but it is nice to see that (for now) they are keeping the 5 flights per day. Hopefully the eventual upgauging on this route will not reduce the daily frequency. My guess is that we will always have one or two RJ's on the route, which is fine, because its nice to have the 5 flights per day.
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November is still a dummy/skeleton schedule. Still plenty of time for that to re-downgrade.
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