My point was that flyer703 tried to use lack of designation on approach charts as evidence. That fails when faced with an airport that does have a curfew and also doesn't have it listed in the charts.

As for the semantics of what to call it, I don't really care. We've also veered incredibly far from this having anything to do with UA.

seems clear to me

No - there effectively is no "government rule". The 1980's restrictions are no longer relevant due to quieter aircraft.

There are no operational nighttime restrictions at DCA in 2017. Period!

I live just south of the airport and hear aircraft departing and arriving ALL THE TIME outside of the old "curfew" times. (5:15am to well after midnight)

I have no idea about SNA operations and didn't mean to imply anything about them in any of these posts.

Then what do you call this statement from the airport's web site?

"However, the Airports Authority still audits, investigates and enforces the Nighttime Noise Rule to ensure aircraft are in compliance. Non-compliant aircraft may be fined up to $5,000 per violation by the Airports Authority."

Perhaps that's simply in relation to the precise following of noise reduction procedures afterhours (one of the primary reasons the River Visual 19 exists and is so heavily used when weather conditions permit).

-FlyerBeek

It's so a 727 charter can't take off at 1am. Sorry, I was missing one word from what you quoted...let me fix that:

There are no scheduled operational nighttime restrictions at DCA in 2017. Period!

That is a good point also. DCA does have noise abatement procedures and under VMC and there are surely penalties for violations.

I was told that they can't land a full 738 after 10pm due to the noise restrictions/curfew. They DB'ed twelve people to lighten the plane - UA could just be wrong but I'm skeptical that the noise rule has *no* impact on operations.

It also applies to the following UAL aircraft; 737-900, 737-800, A319, A320, 757-200, and 757-300.

The 737-900 can not operate during the restricted hours. The other listed types are restricted only when over specified weights.

I used to live in an apartment complex at the first traffic light on the GW parkway south of DCA. Woke at 7:00:00 every morning. I told people I had a Pratt & Whitney alarm clock. :p

that 7am parade has been moved to 6am. evening launches have been moved to 12pm, but continue till 1 am.

They can get a 739 off that runway? How many pax can it carry? (I've never seen a UA 739 at DCA.)

ATA used to operate 753s in and out of there, and a DC-10 was landed there in the past.

The runway is 7,170' at DCA. UAL and DAL both operate the 739 out of LGA which has runways of 7,001' and 7,003'.

under regular conditions, currently the largest plane accepted at DCA is a 75x.

Under special conditions other planes are sometimes authorized; I think it was last year a 787 landed (but maybe it was 2015) but that was empty. The special conditions being that planes are as empty as possible, at least when they attempt to leave DCA....

In the distant past I believe a DC10 made an emergency landing and somewhere I have seen a photo of SAM 26000 on the runway.